MSNBC / NBC hosts i will not watch

[samsingh]

I change the channel immediately when Chuck Todd comes on. He's completely inept as a host and a waste of time.

fire this toad and ratings will increase.

After yesterday's debacle from Chris Hayes, i'm adding him to this list as well. Enough swiftboating of our candidates by the media. Tara Reade keeps changing her story, didn't raise it for 27+ years, and this host is uncritically presenting her side. I'm watching CNN when Chris Hayes comes on.

This is the type of shit CNN and MSNBC pulled with Hillary's emails and look where that got us.

[comradebillyboy]

1. Melber and Hayes are my two least favorite

MSNBC hosts.

[samsingh]

12. ari is unpredictable

[comradebillyboy]

20. Flakey is the word I would apply to him.

Maybe a hipster wanna be.

[bearsfootball516]

2. Hayes was also a very strong Bernie supporter.

Not to fight a primary, but he's been vocally critical of Biden for months now.

[KewlKat]

3. Yeah that's what I thought.

[samsingh]

13. that explains a lot

[lostnfound]

19. Excess of idealism. I don't see anything malicious but he needs to wise up.

Hayes does such a wonderful job with core issues like hunger / food, healthcare, corruption.
It’s naive and foolhardy to cover this story with actual airtime.

[SCantiGOP]

4. MSNBC is not a propaganda channel

We don’t need a liberal version of FOX.
Amazed at how quickly some liberals howl when they hear a divergent opinion from a host on a station.
It doesn’t hurt anyone to step outside of their bubble on occasions.

[still_one]

7. I don't have a problem with divergent opinions as long as things are fully discussed

and when things are incomplete or left out, it gives a wrong impression


Here is a timeline of events, regarding Tara Reade’s actions toward both Joe Biden:

December 1992 — August 1993 — Tara Reade worked as a Senate aide in Joe Biden’s office.
2009 — Reade commended Biden for actions he has taken against domestic violence.
2017 — Reade repeatedly attacked Putin and Russia on Twitter for election interference and for Russian legislation that legalized domestic violence.
2017 — Reade repeatedly praised Joe Biden through tweets, retweets and “likes” on Twitter. On multiple occasions she boosts him for his work on helping end sexual assault.
2018 — Reade claims she liked Russia since she left Washington DC (Over a decade ago), and praised Putin and Russia over and over again. She also directly praised Putin for his treatment of women in multiple articles.
January of 2019 — Reade first begins talking about her sexual harassment allegations against Joe Biden on Twitter.
March, 2019 — Reade continues to praise Putin.
April, 2019 — Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”
September 2019 — Reade calls on Joe Biden to be investigated for his dealings with Ukraine.
January, 2020 — Reade continues to praise Vladimir Putin on Twitter.
March, 2020 — Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.
March, 2020 — Reade tells Vox News that she started liking Putin and Russia in 2018 after “watching Noam Chomsky,” but no longer likes Putin after finding out about domestic violence in Russia. (note: in 2018 she claimed to have loved Russia since over a decade ago, and in 2017 she was posting tweets on her account related to Russia’s domestic violence.)

https://medium.com/%40eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

[samsingh]

14. wow - what happened to her?

[GemDigger]

22. She might be cuckoo or she might just be trouble. She has a history of things.

She has had more names than a chameleon has colors, has accused more people of assault than you can count on one hand (her father, ex, neighbor, a business partner, a woman boss and Joe) she also has had a bankruptcy or two.

[csziggy]

42. She's pretty much always been a scammer and fraudster

See: http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html

Her history is full of questionable actions.

[Demsrule86]

24. Nonsense...done with all of them ...they do nothing but help Trump and a liberal version of

Fox would be the truth...and we damn well do need it or at least unbiased reporting;Hayes doesn't do this. Reade is a grifter and a liar...has changed her story multiple times.

[Claustrum]

5. I liked Hayes back in 2016 but he is unwatchable this year

I understand everyone is a little biased but he is absolutely lopsided this year. He has Bernie and his types on weekly while never ever have any representation from the Biden camp. I guess it's even fine in the primary but now that Bernie dropped out, Hayes should focus on getting people on the democratic side. Unfortunately, he has consistently still invite the Bernie side while not giving Biden's side any voices at all.

[JustAnotherGen]

6. I wrote a letter to Eugene Robinson

In regards to the WaPo article yesterday that gave the headline - asked questions - and failed to answer them.


I don't believe Reade. I don't believe her. End of discussion.

[still_one]

8. It comes down to a she said he said

I personally think Ms. Reade has credibility issues, and her story has changed multiple times.

Here is a more timeline of events, regarding Tara Reade’s actions toward both Joe Biden:

December 1992 — August 1993 — Tara Reade worked as a Senate aide in Joe Biden’s office.
2009 — Reade commended Biden for actions he has taken against domestic violence.
2017 — Reade repeatedly attacked Putin and Russia on Twitter for election interference and for Russian legislation that legalized domestic violence.
2017 — Reade repeatedly praised Joe Biden through tweets, retweets and “likes” on Twitter. On multiple occasions she boosts him for his work on helping end sexual assault.
2018 — Reade claims she liked Russia since she left Washington DC (Over a decade ago), and praised Putin and Russia over and over again. She also directly praised Putin for his treatment of women in multiple articles.
January of 2019 — Reade first begins talking about her sexual harassment allegations against Joe Biden on Twitter.
March, 2019 — Reade continues to praise Putin.
April, 2019 — Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”
September 2019 — Reade calls on Joe Biden to be investigated for his dealings with Ukraine.
January, 2020 — Reade continues to praise Vladimir Putin on Twitter.
March, 2020 — Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.
March, 2020 — Reade tells Vox News that she started liking Putin and Russia in 2018 after “watching Noam Chomsky,” but no longer likes Putin after finding out about domestic violence in Russia. (note: in 2018 she claimed to have loved Russia since over a decade ago, and in 2017 she was posting tweets on her account related to Russia’s domestic violence.)

https://medium.com/%40eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

[Demsrule86]

30. Excellent synopsis.

[redstatebluegirl]

10. I am a woman who has always "believed the woman" but no more.

I was a victim of sexual harrassment when I was working as a sales rep right out of college. It was real, I got out of a car and ran to a farm house for help. They didn't do anything to the manager, and it wasn't his first rodeo. With that said I am inclined to believe a woman when they say something like that happened. Not this time, the history of this seems really sketchy. I think she is looking to get paid off knowing how serious this election is. My best friend, also a woman is a prosecutor in Chicago. She has looked at all of this stuff and said she wouldn't touch it and thinks she is lying, so do I.

[Demsrule86]

25. Me Too is now a political weapon used to target Democrats...time to stop this shit. And it is a damn

shame that liars like Reade who change their story over and over...and are not credible make it difficult for real victims to be believed. Although Me Too wouldn't touch Reade.

[samsingh]

15. neither do i

[still_one]

9. Everytime this comes up I make a donation to Biden

[Walleye]

11. The View just opened with a reporter spending 5 minutes repeating Reades' lies🤬

[stillcool]

16. they've done so much in their quest...

to enable the GOP. They will try to trash any Democratic candidate..my god..The Dean Scream and Obama's Reverend Wright were way, way, over the top...and why? I can not imagine any cable news channel plastering such non-stories 24/7 if they involved any Republican. The cable news business is creating perceptions, and they are damn good at it. It's not that they reported the Dean scream, or Reverend Wright, it's the purposeful way they did it.

[flamingdem]

17. Thank you! I've always kept an open mind about Chris Hayes, now I know he's an IDIOT

Using his position and high ratings to smear Biden.

No forgiveness!

[OnDoutside]

18. Hayes is completely in the tank for Sanders, so this comes as no surprise that he would want to take

Biden down.

[Duncan Grant]

23. That's bullshit. And such an unnecessary thing to say.

If only this thread (and consequently, DU) had 100 users equal to Chris Hayes in both intellect and political consistency! It would transform this website.

I understand the need to vent. Every good and decent thing in this world seems to be threatened — but jeez, critical thinking is needed please. Let’s elevate the discourse instead of stoking conspiratorial Bernie Sanders infused media bias on petty grievance threads.

[Demsrule86]

27. It is true and I saw it in the primary over and over which is why I turned off his worthless show.

Well Joe survived all their shit in the primary, and he will survive them. Biden has way more credibility than Reade or Hayes for that matter.

[samsingh]

35. Yes, we expect critical thinking from left-wing hosts like Chris Hayes (and this board)

to not allow the rapid and traitorous right-wing to continue swiftboating all of our candidates. traitor trump can't even be classified in the same class as Biden in terms of sacrifice for this country but with fox news and then hosts who we generally admire like Chris Hayes decide to get lazy or worse, all of us suffer under republican rule.

[Duncan Grant]

41. Chris Hayes doesn't have the power or influence to ensure republican rule.

I empathize with your point of view. I really do.

I’m not convinced Hayes is carrying water for a Bernie Sanders conspiratorial shadow candidacy or whatever (my words/interpretation not yours).

I hope the Democratic Party has prepared for an event like this (God knows they should have!). Also, the Biden campaign must seek every lawful option available to them. Let’s hear something about that from the powers that be instead of avoiding the inevitable escalation of the Reade-styled political dirty tricks. Seriously, we must have prepared a strategy for a moment like this, right? Time to implement, imho.

[OnDoutside]

37. I watched his show throughout the Primary season and he was completely in the tank for

Sanders, and I stand by my opinion, so you can wind your neck in. Lol, "Let's elevate the discourse" and you start off by attacking my opinion as "Bullshit" !

Yes he is a really clever guy, and yes he is politically consistent, which is always part of the trendy progressive left, but he was consistently pro Sanders and dismissive of centrist candidates, not least of whom was Biden.

[Duncan Grant]

40. Then you understand that this isn't going to be an uncritical (or unfair) season.

Expect to be asked to elaborate on drive by “opinion”. By the way, I was going to say stupid instead of bullshit but I thought it was too personal. Point is, I welcome a thoughtful, informed and sometimes emotional exchange of ideas.

Your reply to me is an imperfect example of that exchange but I appreciate the effort.

[PCIntern]

21. This episode of Chris Hayes reminds me of

One time on Oprah I happen to be watching for some ungodly reason, and she had a guest who made some statement about Jews drinking the blood of Arab children during Passover. I looked up from whatever I was doing and watched her reaction which was one of shock and surprise and with an almost gleeful book she said please let me know where you saw this, I need to find it. Instead of staring critically at the gentleman, and I would put that in quotes, and saying that this is part of the absurdist history of a race that has been persecuted for thousands of years Utilizing just such falsities.From that time forward, I was unable to listen or watch her program.

Chris Hayes is more than a bit of a schmuck: I do recall sometime ago him staring wistfully at one of the more attracted MS NBC on air personalities in the most prurient fashion. Prurient , that is, for a nerd, whose photograph is in the American heritage dictionary next to the word “nerd”. I have had quite enough of him now it’s time for CNN at eight and then return for Rachel at nine and Lawrence at 10.

[Dem2]

26. Whatever

I hate them too, but haven't considered watching them for years. Oh boy, tossing a tantrum over one story Chris did? I must be on DU.

[Demsrule86]

28. It is not one story. He did this during the primary. I for one am sick of it. He is dead to me.

[Dem2]

29. OK?

I know liberals are famous for eating their own, so I'll just be quiet now.

[Demsrule86]

32. I do not consider Hayes 'one of us'. He is helping Trump at the moment...

He was unfair during the entire primary and even now he attacks Biden...not one of us.

[Dem2]

33. I know

I often change the channel when Chris is trying too hard.

I've learned to not throw too many under the bus who are otherwise decent folks.

The big one I would never watch (besides Todd) was Tweety - don't miss him one bit!

[OnDoutside]

38. I agree with you, and I'm pretty sure there are threads here noting him being dismissive of Biden,

though outside of that I do like his shows and podcast.

[0rganism]

31. you're gonna stop watching those channels entirely pretty soon

welcome to a forest of slant stories slamming Joe Biden, starting... now!

you may have to disconnect from TV news completely.

[Paladin]

34. I'm with you.

I've despised Chuck Todd for years. Now that Chris Hayes has gone over to the other side, he's on my shit list, as well.

[samsingh]

36. Agreed.

[calimary]

39. I think Chris Hayes misses being able to jam Bernie Sanders down our throats every week.

That's what happened last time.

In 2016 he had Bernie on for an interview every week. It raised my suspicions that he was working EXTRA hard to position himself as the choice for White House Press Secretary in a Bernie Sanders presidency. I think he was secretly auditioning, softening up the candidate, giving him valuable face time on a weekly basis, positioning himself as the #1 friendly media go-to, whose name would automatically come up when a potential President Sanders was looking to assemble his new White House staff. I don't think he did one single interview with Hillary Clinton on his show, that whole time.

It was nauseating. Chris Hayes has been off my preferred watching list ever since. I still watch, but while we tape the whole evening lineup, his show is the one I'm gonna blow off if I have to do any catch-up watching. Rachel? Never miss. Chris Hayes? Meh.

In my "If I Ran MSNBC" game, I'd replace smug Chuck Todd (I DO NOT like smug), AND Andrea "Oh but her emails" Mitchell. Off with their heads! I might move Chris Hayes out of prime time. Elevate somebody else. Joy Reid maybe. And develop some new talent, too. I REEEEEEALLLY like Malcolm Nance. I think it might be interesting to try something with him, too. He'd be my choice for National Security Advisor if I were president. And I'd take Katie Porter out of the "gotta run for reelection every other year" crowd and put her in the Supreme Court. For life. And I'd issue a directive that jerks like Hugh Hewitt will NEVER get another shot at a show on MSNBC, and preferably will never again even see the inside of the building where MSNBC's located. We would NOT do a "let's give the other side a show maybe early Saturday mornings, just to be even-handed" shit. NO! NOT on MSNBC!!! You don't see Pox Noise giving a liberal a show for any reason, do you?

Willie Geist doesn't impress me, either.

I'd keep Rachel, Lawrence O'Donnell, Katy Tur (really impressed with her work!), Joy Reid, Stephanie Ruhle, Avi and Ari, and Shaquille Brewster. Not too sure about Joshua Johnson yet. I'd have to see. And I'd tell Steve Kornacki if he doesn't stop waving his arms in front of the statistics on his board and standing in front of it and blocking the numbers that he's busy telling you about but you can't see, he'll be OUT. That drives me fucking CRAZY!!!!!! And I'd recommend that he switch to decaf. Like YESTERDAY. And oddly enough, I find Brian Williams a comforting presence. He stays.