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Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:29 PM Apr 2020

Coronavirus will change everything. Will it be for the better?

I think we're all feeling it right now, whether it's lost loved ones, lost jobs, changes to routines, etc. There is a post on DU about churches hurting. I saw a story earlier today about school bus companies shutting down. And these are a tiny fraction of the changes.

How do you think things will change because of coronavirus? Will it be for the better or worse? Not just personally, but societally, and politically? Are we all going to be living in the slums from Elysium or a country that more resembles common sense?

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Coronavirus will change everything. Will it be for the better? (Original Post) Renew Deal Apr 2020 OP
Not if the republicans have anything to do with it. Turbineguy Apr 2020 #1
It all depends on the election. We need to stress that in the campaign Walleye Apr 2020 #2
I don't know, but I will be damned if I am living the rest of my life on Zoom. Initech Apr 2020 #3
We sit on the crack of the earth proud patriot Apr 2020 #4
I only see one possible silver lining Chainfire Apr 2020 #5
I reject the "change everything" hyperbole HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #6
That's a good point. Renew Deal Apr 2020 #8
I think it's also highly personal. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #10
A lot of people will be happy to see handshakes go away. Renew Deal Apr 2020 #11
No, it won't be. COVID won't last forever. Initech Apr 2020 #13
The cleaner society is interesting to me HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #15
Yeah it will certainly be interesting to see the short and long term effects of this pandemic. Initech Apr 2020 #18
It won't be forever. Renew Deal Apr 2020 #16
I know what I would *like* to see... FirstLight Apr 2020 #7
Changes to healthcare are on the top of my list but, Renew Deal Apr 2020 #9
Authoritarians always use crises and uncertainty to solidify power... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #12
I will do less and go without some wants. pwb Apr 2020 #14
The middle class will get killed, the rich will get richer, and the poor will stay poor Calculating Apr 2020 #17
My husband said this morning that we're at the crossroads between Bettie Apr 2020 #19

Initech

(100,043 posts)
3. I don't know, but I will be damned if I am living the rest of my life on Zoom.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:35 PM
Apr 2020

I want to go see my friends and family in person. I do not want to see them through a tiny window on my computer screen for the rest of this crisis.

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
5. I only see one possible silver lining
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

that only if we curtail Republican leadership in the country, and I certainly would not have sacrificed 100,000 American lives to attain that goal.

The economics of the pandemic will eventually result in a gain for the wealthy, no change for the poor, and a downward slide for the middle class.

The political division of the country will be even more pronounced coming out of this.

The America that us baby boomers loved has been in a decline since Ronald Ray Gun. With Trump we have fallen off a cliff. I don't see us regaining much of what has been lost for generations, if ever. It is the first time in the history of our country where we can not expect our children to be better off than we were.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
10. I think it's also highly personal.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:53 PM
Apr 2020

But to offer a better response to your post, things like the handshake are done I think. Toast. I know I’m done with them for good. That is a positive change IMO.

An example of something that might not change is...well I can’t think of anything off the top of my head so maybe you’re right!

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
11. A lot of people will be happy to see handshakes go away.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:59 PM
Apr 2020

Though I doubt it will be forever. Maybe we'll start bowing.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
13. No, it won't be. COVID won't last forever.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:02 PM
Apr 2020

Even the worst pandemics only have a shelf life of a year, year and a half at most. We can't live this way - online and afraid of everybody and making personal contact - forever. Humans need personal, family and social contacts. We need to be able to see our family members and friends.

This will pass. I seriously hope none of this is permanent. If anything, it's taught us that we need a cleaner society to live in.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
15. The cleaner society is interesting to me
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:04 PM
Apr 2020

I’ve been thinking about the seasonal flu and how interesting it’ll be to look at how it unfolds next winter. Will it be down because people have become hyper aware of hand washing and other forms of sanitation? I have no idea, but we will know at some point.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
18. Yeah it will certainly be interesting to see the short and long term effects of this pandemic.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:22 PM
Apr 2020

If we're going to resume things like travel, hotels, cruise ships and airlines will all have to find cleaner ways to recirculate air and water.

I work in the solid waste industry, we're already trying to find new ways of proper waste disposal for near future. It will be interesting to see how this happens.

FirstLight

(13,357 posts)
7. I know what I would *like* to see...
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:46 PM
Apr 2020

Total shift of how we do things, environment over economy etc...
But the reality os that so much of our infrastructure and global everything is so fucking entrenched...the only way to rebuild it is to let it all break apart. Otherwise it will just resume as the way it has always been.

I wish humanity could use this as a chance to re-tool our way of life and maybe even fix the planet in the process.
But with overpopulation, economic disparity, and old white men who refuse to let go of power and greed... well, it doesn't look good

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
9. Changes to healthcare are on the top of my list but,
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:50 PM
Apr 2020

I do have to wonder if improvements to air quality, reductions in transportation, etc. will stick. Will people demand changes that actually improved the environment?

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
12. Authoritarians always use crises and uncertainty to solidify power...
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

it will take a lot of effort for this to not make things worse.

pwb

(11,252 posts)
14. I will do less and go without some wants.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:02 PM
Apr 2020

We all need to stay put for awhile and hunker in at home after work. IMO.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
17. The middle class will get killed, the rich will get richer, and the poor will stay poor
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:16 PM
Apr 2020

The FED seem intent on bailing out the rich at any and ALL costs, which will drive up inflation killing everyone else.

Bettie

(16,077 posts)
19. My husband said this morning that we're at the crossroads between
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:24 PM
Apr 2020

the worlds of Mad Max and Star Trek.

Hope we make the right choice.

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