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Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:37 PM Apr 2020

Having to argue with Christian Trump humpers is tiring

I received a message from acTrump humper. It was a meme from the Christian satire site Babylon Bee. It said how can scientists predict the weather 100 years from now, since they have been wrong one billion percent the last two months? I responded by asking him to google “Red Dawn emails”. SMH.
Another Christian Trump humper told me the Coronavirus is a hoax, and the sicknesses are from 5G towers, or something like that. I was too stunned to answer. Is this The Twilight Zone?

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Having to argue with Christian Trump humpers is tiring (Original Post) Dirty Socialist Apr 2020 OP
yet they don't believe invisible things can cause disease lol nt msongs Apr 2020 #1
But they believe that an invisible God can save them. Marie Marie Apr 2020 #8
Magical thinkers and fanatics Thomas Hurt Apr 2020 #2
Now the Babylon Bee sender Dirty Socialist Apr 2020 #3
don't. even. try. they are in a truth-impermeable cult. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2020 #4
You can't argue... Newest Reality Apr 2020 #5
You only get sick from 5G if... mwooldri Apr 2020 #6
Now I Need A Tape Measure ProfessorGAC May 2020 #18
Absolutely dumb about this 5G business. mwooldri May 2020 #20
"Having to argue with Christian Trump humpers" mitch96 Apr 2020 #7
"You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." sop Apr 2020 #9
went to a live youtube stream today brettdale Apr 2020 #10
tRUMPists don't deserve to be called "Christian". I think of them as Christo-Fascists... abqtommy May 2020 #11
The majority of Christians voted for Trump in 2016. Mariana May 2020 #14
You say "Christian" and I say "Christo-Fascist". It's obvious that tRUMP didn't win the 2016 abqtommy May 2020 #22
I had a very close friend with a undergrad in physics from Cornell.. Laffy Kat May 2020 #12
Sound Like She's Heading For... ProfessorGAC May 2020 #19
That's was a waste of time Raine May 2020 #13
So don't ibegurpard May 2020 #15
+ struggle4progress May 2020 #16
Actually Dirty Socialist May 2020 #17
One billion percent, eh? robbob May 2020 #21
That's why I never do it. Aristus May 2020 #23

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
3. Now the Babylon Bee sender
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:47 PM
Apr 2020

Says it’s a joke and shouldn’t be taken seriously. However, good satire needs elements of truth to be funny. Babylon Bee struck out on that.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
5. You can't argue...
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:53 PM
Apr 2020

You can't argue with a confirmation bias of that nature. Often, arguing with them can have a contrary effect in that they will evoked emotions that distort what you say to inflame their biases and then dig their heels in deeper. I think, being vocal and outright like that actually reinforces their views as well. If they had nobody to argue with, the might think about other things.

They are good at arguing for foolish, unsubstantiated beliefs. If they are going to put all that effort into, mostly, pushing means that "sound right" to them, then they win, in that sense, due to so much practice with it.

I avoid that like the plague, but I also have a sense of compassion and try to understand them rather than let my bias turn into the same kind of ridicule they utilize and that is because I think that distinguishes my view from theirs. I don't need them to be wrong in order to make my point or have a more informed view about things.

There is a lot of background and psychology that underscores that kind of thinking and world view. It is a filter and that's why I used the term, confirmation bias. It does not just apply to Fundamentalists, Right-Wingers and Trump followers. I see generic conspiracy theory buffs who live in a very paranoid world where everything is a devious plot, (some things are, but there is usually evidence) rather than allowing for natural occurrences.

There is something to learn about the mind in this and how a person's perspective can color their world to various degrees, especially when they combine prejudice, belief and reaction emotions that stimulate the limbic brain and overrides logic, reason, etc.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
18. Now I Need A Tape Measure
Fri May 1, 2020, 07:46 AM
May 2020

I'm not sure I'll fit in that little space!
Those are the same frequencies that broadcast UHF at 10s of thousands of watts, and people didn't die.
Now, same band, lower power, and it's a problem?
Blindingly dumb, isn't it?

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
20. Absolutely dumb about this 5G business.
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:58 AM
May 2020

The microwave oven frequencies are closer to WiFi than UHF TV frequencies, however there is a reason why main TV (and radio) transmitters will go to reduced power or off air entirely when transmitter mast antenna work is being done. The engineers don't want to be fried with 1000 kW of power. It's all about the power, not the frequency.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
7. "Having to argue with Christian Trump humpers"
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:22 PM
Apr 2020

LIke the old saying goes.. Don't argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience...
Just tell 'em "God Bless" and walk away with a smile...
Better yet.. "Blessed Be"...... with the devil in your eye.... ;^)
m

sop

(10,167 posts)
9. "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:26 PM
Apr 2020

(attributed to Jonathan Swift)

brettdale

(12,380 posts)
10. went to a live youtube stream today
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:33 PM
Apr 2020

Of a Christian trumper, it was extreme, his points were....

Gay Marriage isnt law, the only law he listens to is biblical.

Covid19 is a ittybitty flu.

The protestors with Guns in Detroit are heroes for standing up to the Government.

The only reason there is a lockdown is because they want to take away ya guns.

The people with guns didnt get arrested, because they have Guns and were able to protect themselves.

Some of what Q-0n is saying is true, some isnt.

The part about Clinton and Jeffery Epstein committing rapes on a private island is true.

If other countries are allowed Guns, there would be no communism.

He answered a lot of questions, but wouldnt answer my that said...

"Who would win in a war, the protesters with the guns or a military with access to a trillion dollar
weapon system."

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
22. You say "Christian" and I say "Christo-Fascist". It's obvious that tRUMP didn't win the 2016
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:11 AM
May 2020

vote. It was the ratfucking that won for them. Thanks for the nifty graph!

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
12. I had a very close friend with a undergrad in physics from Cornell..
Fri May 1, 2020, 12:36 AM
May 2020

A J.D. from the University of Denver and a master's in biology from FSU. She believes CD19 is a hoax and so was Sandy Hook, Columbine, and loads of other atrocities. It's all "black ops" according to her. I quit talking to her a couple of years ago but still keep in touch with her sister who keeps me posted, although the sister has had to distance herself, as well. It's mental illness and she refuses to seek help. It breaks my heart and I miss my "old friend" so much, but I'm afraid she's gone forever. She began listening to Alex Jones years ago and went off the deep end. She is so brilliant, such a waste.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
17. Actually
Fri May 1, 2020, 07:43 AM
May 2020

I haven’t talked to the 5G guy since then. The other is in a fantasy baseball league with me. I often win ($800 the last 2 years) and he usually loses.

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