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Mika deflects by posting video of Biden Receiving Brzezinski Prize, Twitter tears her a new one (Original Post) wyldwolf May 2020 OP
She Disgraced Herself, And Needs Several New Ones Torn, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #1
Are new ones getting torn for Mika? Cracklin Charlie May 2020 #3
Those comments were brutal PatSeg May 2020 #2
+1, believe women isn't the end of the matter its the beginning and her line of questioning was as uponit7771 May 2020 #4
As They Damned Well Should Be, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #5
There are ways to ask some of those PatSeg May 2020 #6
True, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #7
And playing devil's advocate PatSeg May 2020 #9
Which Is Sad, Ma'am --- I Have A Great Deal Of Respect For Her Father The Magistrate May 2020 #10
Same here PatSeg May 2020 #11
Clearly, we've entered the False Equivalence phase of the 2020 campaign. sop May 2020 #8
Asked and Answered! Glad she's getting blow back on twitter! Cha May 2020 #12

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
1. She Disgraced Herself, And Needs Several New Ones Torn, Sir
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:13 AM
May 2020

We must make sure everyone knows we are having none of it, shame any on our side who try and pretend there's something to this swill, and blanket 'news' outlets who try and peddle these lies with angry protests and threats of boycott --- anything short of actual threats of lethal violence.



The time for this sort of crap is over. They cannot ruin our leaders without our help, and we need to get this through our collective heads. Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....

Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.

Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.


If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.



There are a damned sight more of us than there are of them.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."



PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
2. Those comments were brutal
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:26 AM
May 2020

but she had it coming. I have no problem with a journalist asking hard questions or playing devil's advocate, but she went too far. The interview was unprofessional and looked too much like she was trying to create a memorable moment or soundbite. I've seen other journalists do this and they usually end up making themselves look bad, not the person they are interviewing.

Biden was respectful, polite, and very clear in his answers. If someone answers your question, move on to the next one.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
4. +1, believe women isn't the end of the matter its the beginning and her line of questioning was as
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:30 AM
May 2020

... if believe women then prosecute is what Biden was saying where it was obvious to anyone it was not.

Giest didn't help either.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
5. As They Damned Well Should Be, Ma'am
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:32 AM
May 2020

Show-boat talking heads playing 'balance' as if the Golden Mean were not a logical fallacy need to learn fear of social consequences. There are a damned sight more of us than there are of them, and we need to come together and make this plain.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."


PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
6. There are ways to ask some of those
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:42 AM
May 2020

devil's advocate type questions without appearing accusatory. "People will say that ______, how do you respond to that?" She asked some of her questions as if she assumed he was guilty or hiding something. She's been a supposed journalist long enough, she should have known better. She was trying too hard to be tough with a very open and honest politician.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
7. True, Ma'am
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:51 AM
May 2020

I have some modest experience at playing advocatus diaboli, and it is a necessary role at times. But too often the critters who pass themselves off as journalists and wise pundits play the role of prosecutors on a cross-examination, and always against the side least culpable, while lobbing softballs at the side whose behavior is an outrage, and they do it as a feature of their business model, which requires equalizing a contest to the greatest degree possible, so they have something to cover that is exciting. Truth is not always in the middle, quite often it rests with one side or another, but these bought-out hacks cannot allow themselves that admission.


"If someone says it's raining, and somebody else says it isn't, a journalist's job isn't to report that opinions differ, but to step outside and see if he gets wet."

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
9. And playing devil's advocate
Fri May 1, 2020, 12:09 PM
May 2020

can be a very effective way to frame questions, but you do it without coming across as the devil. Clearing the air is a good thing, as there will be questions from others down the road, who are not as friendly. Though I think what bothered me the most was she showed no respect for the Vice President. He deserved to be treated better than that.

I also sensed her own insecurities at play here - "I can be just as tough as any male journalist". There's a fine line between tough and rude though. After all these years, I'm afraid she will always be just Joe Scarborough's sidekick.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
10. Which Is Sad, Ma'am --- I Have A Great Deal Of Respect For Her Father
Fri May 1, 2020, 12:15 PM
May 2020

And expected more from her than she has shown by way of sense and integrity.

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
11. Same here
Fri May 1, 2020, 12:18 PM
May 2020

Her father once told Joe Scarborough to his face that "he was stunningly superficial". I have a feeling that might apply to Mika as well.

sop

(10,136 posts)
8. Clearly, we've entered the False Equivalence phase of the 2020 campaign.
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:57 AM
May 2020

The corporate media doctrine of False Equivalence requires all "responsible unbiased journalists" to report any allegation against one candidate, no matter how often it's been investigated and debunked, to "balance" their coverage of the well-documented sins of his/her opponent.

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