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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:30 AM May 2020

The huge difference between Biden and Kavanaugh that nobody is talking about for some reason.

Regardless of whether Blasey Ford's accusation was true, Kavanaugh lied under oath multiple times about other things. He lied about how much of a drunk he was in HS and College. He lied claiming that "devil's triangle" was a drinking game. He lied that "Renate alumnus" was some kind of tribute to a friendship rather than a creepy thing. And so on.

Those were obvious lies, told under oath. No sane person could believe any of that stuff.

And, obviously, the fact that Kavanaugh lied under oath about all that stuff destroys his credibility when he denies the accusation. Biden, on the other hand has not lied about any surrounding events, even without being under oath.

This is not the only difference between the Biden and Kavanaugh allegation, but it's a huge one, and I then every Dem surrogate that gets asked about the supposed "double standard" should hammer this point. Kavanaugh lied under oath. And if some reporter responds that we don't know whether those are lies they should just look at the camera and say "be serious, everyone knows that 'devil's triangle' was no drinking game".

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The huge difference between Biden and Kavanaugh that nobody is talking about for some reason. (Original Post) DanTex May 2020 OP
Glenn Kirshner has a plan for that. gibraltar72 May 2020 #1
Exactly, Sir --- The Drunken Rapist Ought To Be Impeached For His Perjuries The Magistrate May 2020 #2
Good point PatSeg May 2020 #3
+1, the false equivalency here is gob smacking. Biden invites investigation Kavanaugh did not uponit7771 May 2020 #4
Also Ms. Ford was under oath still_one May 2020 #5
anyone who gets asked should say "fuck that shit, Kali May 2020 #6
Remember Grassley asked Kavanaugh to affirm exboyfil May 2020 #7
Excellent points peggysue2 May 2020 #8
One of the major eye-openers for me was when it came to Mark Judge Hav May 2020 #9

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
2. Exactly, Sir --- The Drunken Rapist Ought To Be Impeached For His Perjuries
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:34 AM
May 2020

It would be a small start to restoring legitimacy to our Federal courts.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."


PatSeg

(47,244 posts)
3. Good point
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:35 AM
May 2020

I recall there were many reasons why people felt Kavanaugh was unfit to serve on the Supreme Court. Lying under oath more than once and his temperament during the hearing come to mind. It was the whole package, not just one allegation.

Kali

(55,002 posts)
6. anyone who gets asked should say "fuck that shit,
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:40 AM
May 2020

have you even been paying attention the last 3.5 years???!!!"

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
7. Remember Grassley asked Kavanaugh to affirm
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:45 AM
May 2020

and to Ford to swear. He has never been asked about this difference.

peggysue2

(10,819 posts)
8. Excellent points
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:21 PM
May 2020

Because the standard Republican response in defending Joe Biden's denial is a one-word utterance:

Kavanaugh!

How can Dems believe Biden when they did not believe Kavanaugh? they cry.

That in itself points to a deliberate setup, in the same way the Al Franken accusations were contrived and twisted by the GOP's smear machine. It is the weaponization of the MeToo movement taking the basic premise--Believe Women--and misrepresenting the statement that we must believe women uniformly from start to finish. No investigation, no question, no credible corroboration. To deny is to lie is to extend the victimization of women everywhere.

We've seen this before. We've allowed these jerks to play this game, again and again:

Take a candidate's strength and turn it into a weakness. In terms of Joe Biden? His strength is his decency, his years of supporting women's issues, his trust quotient. All this must be squashed in the Age of Trump. All this is a direct attack on Trump's odious enablers and the incompetent governance that has brought the country to its knees. The GOP knows its losing. Trump knows he's losing. They are desperate to turn around their electoral vulnerabilities.

And lo and behold, they have the Left--once again--too cheer them on, spread the Big Lie and poison the air with their toxic message. Because perhaps another 4 years of Trump's criminal, vindictive rule will produce The Revolution that dedicated socialists so badly desire.

Never forget. We've seen this before.

Never forgive while we push them all into the sea. Traitors deserve no mercy!

Hav

(5,969 posts)
9. One of the major eye-openers for me was when it came to Mark Judge
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:43 PM
May 2020

As the only other person in the room and with Judge having an interest to clear his name, you'd think Kavanaugh would have welcomed questioning him. But he ran away from that as fast as he could. First he argued that one shouldn't put him through this stress due to all the problems he had in his past and then he immediately tried to destroy his credibility by referring to Judge's drug problems.
That isn't a definite clue but it really made me think that an innocent person would want the only other alleged witness in the room to come forward.

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