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uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:34 PM May 2020

No Chris Hayes, we're unhappy that you were sloppy with the reporting not that you ran the story

Context, Christ has is trying to defend his sloppy reporting of Reade Story last night


Strawman argument noted

Reade wasn't credible and you even under reported how ... NOT ... credible she is tonight by only outlined 3 aspects of how her story is screwed up.

You got me looking last night Chris its time to own up to not reporting the EXTENT of why people don't believe Reade and why the false equivalency to Ford wasn't called for.


STOP THE SLOPPY REPORTING !!!

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No Chris Hayes, we're unhappy that you were sloppy with the reporting not that you ran the story (Original Post) uponit7771 May 2020 OP
I didn't watch him over the past few days BigmanPigman May 2020 #1
I won't watch him.. FarPoint May 2020 #2
I was fine with his first two points qazplm135 May 2020 #3
+1, IINM she literally texted "timing ... look for it ..." or something close. If this was Ford no uponit7771 May 2020 #4
That's my take as well. OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #6
he's very passionate about me too qazplm135 May 2020 #9
Baloney...he just hates Biden and wants Sanders as the nominee...he acted badly the entire primary. Demsrule86 May 2020 #18
oh good grief qazplm135 May 2020 #24
I deal in truth...which often is black and white. Ask any Biden supporter and they will tell you Demsrule86 May 2020 #27
nah qazplm135 May 2020 #28
I watched enough of Chris Hayes to state there is no grey here...he was in the tank for Sanders from Demsrule86 May 2020 #29
Yes he was Green Line May 2020 #37
That is your opinion. Mine is different. I hope Hayes is replaced because I find his show Demsrule86 May 2020 #31
Bingo! radical noodle May 2020 #35
i just caught that MFM008 May 2020 #5
"Sloppy" walk back as well. Stop digging Chris, you screwed up.Bigtime. oasis May 2020 #7
Aloha, oasis.. did you see it? So Hayes Cha May 2020 #10
Hayes had the nerve to show a bit of indignation at the end oasis May 2020 #13
Welcome to my Cha May 2020 #16
Yeah Like he is the victim I suppose. Demsrule86 May 2020 #25
Haye's putting guilt trip on those dimissive of Reade's accusations. oasis May 2020 #32
There can be no excuse for misleading people deliberately all the while giggling and acting like a Demsrule86 May 2020 #19
That's what I said yesteday.. Biden Supporters weren't Cha May 2020 #8
What was up with that? I stayed out of primaries after SC ... was he really a Sanders nut? tia uponit7771 May 2020 #12
He always has been. Cha May 2020 #14
He was always in the tank for Sanders. Demsrule86 May 2020 #20
He's too much of a Bro to admit he was full of crap. Which he is. Maru Kitteh May 2020 #11
I hope Rebl2 May 2020 #15
Fella Needs To Straighten Up And Fly Right, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #17
He is not the only one. Ari, Mika (this morning) and Andrea have all attacked Biden on this story Demsrule86 May 2020 #21
True, Ma'am, He Is Not Alone The Magistrate May 2020 #26
Very true...I agree with your analysis. Hayes behaved badly the entire primary...he showed no Demsrule86 May 2020 #30
I suppose that isn't too surprising PatSeg May 2020 #34
He should cut his losses DrToast May 2020 #22
The story stinks...the only question is who put her up to this? Demsrule86 May 2020 #23
I think requiring fairness and balance is a fair and balanced request. Its the least we should ... marble falls May 2020 #33
Can't believe MSNBC replaced Ed Schultz with this idiot. Galraedia May 2020 #36
Chris Hayes dis a horrible job on this story Gothmog May 2020 #38
+1, Karen Tumuluty's continuing the sloppiness by saying "Teara Reades story has echos of Kavanaugh" uponit7771 May 2020 #39
He wants Biden disqualified so Sanders can be the nominee. Nt helpisontheway May 2020 #40

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
1. I didn't watch him over the past few days
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:38 PM
May 2020

due to what fellow Duers have reported. I do not support BS from anyone!

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
3. I was fine with his first two points
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:40 PM
May 2020

his last one gave real short shrift to the problems with her credibility as just being "trashing her character."

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
4. +1, IINM she literally texted "timing ... look for it ..." or something close. If this was Ford no
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:43 PM
May 2020

... support having her go under oath.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
6. That's my take as well.
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:47 PM
May 2020

Chris is pretty good on his reporting, but he got too far ahead of this story with very little facts. He ought to know the Republican game plan by this point. We've seen in play out for the last 20 years.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
9. he's very passionate about me too
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:53 PM
May 2020

and so he feels a strong aversion to anything he thinks is attacking any woman who comes out with these claims.

Which is a decent baseline, but he just takes it too far IMO. This isn't an ordinary claim. There are extraordinary problems with it.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
18. Baloney...he just hates Biden and wants Sanders as the nominee...he acted badly the entire primary.
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:53 PM
May 2020

I found him and still find him unwatchable.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
27. I deal in truth...which often is black and white. Ask any Biden supporter and they will tell you
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:14 PM
May 2020

Chris Hayes was in the tank for Sanders all during the primary. He launched attack after attack. Super Tuesday was great as it became clear to Chris and others that Biden with little money and most of the media against him won it all.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
29. I watched enough of Chris Hayes to state there is no grey here...he was in the tank for Sanders from
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:17 PM
May 2020

day 1.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
31. That is your opinion. Mine is different. I hope Hayes is replaced because I find his show
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:21 PM
May 2020

unwatchable.

Cha

(297,204 posts)
10. Aloha, oasis.. did you see it? So Hayes
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:53 PM
May 2020

knows he blew it and is trying to excuse it?

Mahalo!

oasis

(49,383 posts)
13. Hayes had the nerve to show a bit of indignation at the end
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:00 PM
May 2020

of his presentation.

He's earned a permanent spot on my s---list.

oasis

(49,383 posts)
32. Haye's putting guilt trip on those dimissive of Reade's accusations.
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:22 PM
May 2020

He's pissed because of the massive public outcry about his lame hit job on Biden yesterday.

#FireChrisHayes, or something similar went viral. Now Hayes is scrambling to "clean up on aisle 6".

Credibilty deficit.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
19. There can be no excuse for misleading people deliberately all the while giggling and acting like a
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:56 PM
May 2020

jerk. Terrible apology non-apology. How are you? This too shall pass...look at what they tried in the primary. I don't watch MSNBc anymore.

Cha

(297,204 posts)
8. That's what I said yesteday.. Biden Supporters weren't
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:51 PM
May 2020

upset because he reported on tara reade.. it was the way he did it.. with his shit eating grin.

Rebl2

(13,501 posts)
15. I hope
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:12 PM
May 2020

he loses so many viewers he gets replaced. Haven’t cared for him for a long while. He is like Chris Matthews and talks over his guests. Time for you to go mr. Hayes!!!!!

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
17. Fella Needs To Straighten Up And Fly Right, Sir
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:52 PM
May 2020

We must make sure everyone knows we are having none of it, shame any on our side who try and pretend there's something to this swill, and blanket 'news' outlets who try and peddle these lies with angry protests and threats of boycott --- anything short of actual threats of lethal violence.

Show-boat talking heads playing 'balance' as if the Golden Mean were not a logical fallacy need to learn fear of social consequences. There are a damned sight more of us than there are of them, and we need to come together and make this plain.

The time for this sort of crap is over. They cannot ruin our leaders without our help, and we need to get this through our collective heads. Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....

Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.

Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.


If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."


Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
21. He is not the only one. Ari, Mika (this morning) and Andrea have all attacked Biden on this story
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:03 PM
May 2020

pretending it has facts backing it up...it doesn't. And I laughed my butt of after learning the neighbor was 'helped' by Tara to remember being told. if someone told me they were raped, I would remember. And I sure as hell would not support the rapist politically. I am sure Tara 'helped' her bother as well.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
26. True, Ma'am, He Is Not Alone
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:11 PM
May 2020

The others catch plenty of flak, but Hayes gets more because is considered a leftist, and has been in the field more or less against Mr. Biden thoroughout the primary season. People expect more of him, and catch a whiff of sour grapes in his attitude. Mr. Melber is not taken too seriously, even as a music fan, and Mrs. Greenspan is a known quantity, a legacy pundit dedicated to 'Cokie's Rule' that what is talked about has to be talked about because if it wasn't, why would people be talking about it, and so on and so on till sense and judgement disappear up the babbling pundit's own fundament....

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
30. Very true...I agree with your analysis. Hayes behaved badly the entire primary...he showed no
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:19 PM
May 2020

objectivity and was clearly in the tank for Sen. Sanders.

PatSeg

(47,429 posts)
34. I suppose that isn't too surprising
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:17 PM
May 2020

The media has never been very kind to Biden. Most of the time, he's been a lame punchline. Hopefully, they'll get a clue and realize that he really is the nominee and most likely the next President of the United States. Meanwhile, it looks like they are doing the same crap they did to Hillary in 2016.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
22. He should cut his losses
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:04 PM
May 2020

I have a feeling this is all going to unravel and he’s going to look even worse.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
33. I think requiring fairness and balance is a fair and balanced request. Its the least we should ...
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:06 PM
May 2020

expect from our news sources.

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
36. Can't believe MSNBC replaced Ed Schultz with this idiot.
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:34 PM
May 2020

Chris Hayes is so boring the only time slot he should be on is between 11PM-12AM. MSNBC can call it The Cure for Insomnia Hour.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
39. +1, Karen Tumuluty's continuing the sloppiness by saying "Teara Reades story has echos of Kavanaugh"
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:28 AM
May 2020

... no it doesn't

Biden invites an investigation Kavanaugh did not

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