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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo Chris Hayes, we're unhappy that you were sloppy with the reporting not that you ran the story
Context, Christ has is trying to defend his sloppy reporting of Reade Story last night
Strawman argument noted
Reade wasn't credible and you even under reported how ... NOT ... credible she is tonight by only outlined 3 aspects of how her story is screwed up.
You got me looking last night Chris its time to own up to not reporting the EXTENT of why people don't believe Reade and why the false equivalency to Ford wasn't called for.
STOP THE SLOPPY REPORTING !!!
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)due to what fellow Duers have reported. I do not support BS from anyone!
FarPoint
(12,359 posts)Nope..I won't.....due to this Biden reporting.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)his last one gave real short shrift to the problems with her credibility as just being "trashing her character."
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... support having her go under oath.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,468 posts)Chris is pretty good on his reporting, but he got too far ahead of this story with very little facts. He ought to know the Republican game plan by this point. We've seen in play out for the last 20 years.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)and so he feels a strong aversion to anything he thinks is attacking any woman who comes out with these claims.
Which is a decent baseline, but he just takes it too far IMO. This isn't an ordinary claim. There are extraordinary problems with it.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)I found him and still find him unwatchable.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)you boil everything down into black and white don't you.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)Chris Hayes was in the tank for Sanders all during the primary. He launched attack after attack. Super Tuesday was great as it became clear to Chris and others that Biden with little money and most of the media against him won it all.
truth is usually shades of gray, not absolutism.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)day 1.
Green Line
(1,123 posts)Im done with him and most of MSNBC
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)unwatchable.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)I stopped watching him months ago for this very reason.
MFM008
(19,808 posts)...................
oasis
(49,383 posts)Cha
(297,204 posts)knows he blew it and is trying to excuse it?
Mahalo!
oasis
(49,383 posts)of his presentation.
He's earned a permanent spot on my s---list.
World. Thank you!
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)oasis
(49,383 posts)He's pissed because of the massive public outcry about his lame hit job on Biden yesterday.
#FireChrisHayes, or something similar went viral. Now Hayes is scrambling to "clean up on aisle 6".
Credibilty deficit.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)jerk. Terrible apology non-apology. How are you? This too shall pass...look at what they tried in the primary. I don't watch MSNBc anymore.
Cha
(297,204 posts)upset because he reported on tara reade.. it was the way he did it.. with his shit eating grin.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)Cha
(297,204 posts)Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Rebl2
(13,501 posts)he loses so many viewers he gets replaced. Havent cared for him for a long while. He is like Chris Matthews and talks over his guests. Time for you to go mr. Hayes!!!!!
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)We must make sure everyone knows we are having none of it, shame any on our side who try and pretend there's something to this swill, and blanket 'news' outlets who try and peddle these lies with angry protests and threats of boycott --- anything short of actual threats of lethal violence.
Show-boat talking heads playing 'balance' as if the Golden Mean were not a logical fallacy need to learn fear of social consequences. There are a damned sight more of us than there are of them, and we need to come together and make this plain.
The time for this sort of crap is over. They cannot ruin our leaders without our help, and we need to get this through our collective heads. Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....
Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.
Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.
If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)pretending it has facts backing it up...it doesn't. And I laughed my butt of after learning the neighbor was 'helped' by Tara to remember being told. if someone told me they were raped, I would remember. And I sure as hell would not support the rapist politically. I am sure Tara 'helped' her bother as well.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)The others catch plenty of flak, but Hayes gets more because is considered a leftist, and has been in the field more or less against Mr. Biden thoroughout the primary season. People expect more of him, and catch a whiff of sour grapes in his attitude. Mr. Melber is not taken too seriously, even as a music fan, and Mrs. Greenspan is a known quantity, a legacy pundit dedicated to 'Cokie's Rule' that what is talked about has to be talked about because if it wasn't, why would people be talking about it, and so on and so on till sense and judgement disappear up the babbling pundit's own fundament....
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)objectivity and was clearly in the tank for Sen. Sanders.
PatSeg
(47,429 posts)The media has never been very kind to Biden. Most of the time, he's been a lame punchline. Hopefully, they'll get a clue and realize that he really is the nominee and most likely the next President of the United States. Meanwhile, it looks like they are doing the same crap they did to Hillary in 2016.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)I have a feeling this is all going to unravel and hes going to look even worse.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)marble falls
(57,081 posts)expect from our news sources.
Galraedia
(5,025 posts)Chris Hayes is so boring the only time slot he should be on is between 11PM-12AM. MSNBC can call it The Cure for Insomnia Hour.
Gothmog
(145,218 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... no it doesn't
Biden invites an investigation Kavanaugh did not