Well, David Axelrod just put an end to that!

[Skya Rhen]

Link to tweet

[Cha]

1. Just like we thought.. take that mika.

Thanks, SKya

[MontanaMama]

9. Yep. And Chris Hayes and Ari Melber

can eat a slice of that reality cake too. Can we PLEASE stop eating our own and kick ass this November? Let’s go Joe!

[Cha]

14. Right! Can't forget those two derelict

pundits.

Mahalo, MontanaMama!

[Paladin]

37. Better get a rap artist to pass it on to Ari.

He won't hear about it, otherwise....

[MontanaMama]

47. Paging Fifty Cent...

We need you to get a message to Ari...

[Demsrule86]

54. +1000 Cha...Joe endured all this sort of shit during the primary, but we had his back and

he won in a landslide...we know Joe! (Fired up and ready to go). I wish we had an election forum...miss the primary forum.

[Joinfortmill]

85. Agree. Sometimes she's just too full of herself.

[Chobalto]

2. Importantly, the RNC found nothing either

Otherwise they would have used it against Obama/Biden.
Reade has a lot of questions to answer about her sudden, ever-changing story that she only made up after Biden had a real shot to become President.
I hope this thread makes it to the top.

[The Magistrate]

11. An Excellent Point, Sir

Welcome to the forum.

[spudspud]

17. Agreed, and exactly why this attack is not likely coming from the right. /nt

[Hestia]

20. It's coming from the ass in the WH who is trying to either get people to forget how

dismal he is at actually doing anything about this virus and his dropping poll numbers.

[wryter2000]

55. Or from Putin

She has quite a crush on him.

[yonder]

18. Good point there and a hearty May Day welcome.

[niyad]

26. Welcome to DU. Yes, a most excellent point.

[crickets]

44. *ding!* Winner. Welcome to DU, Chobalto! nt

[Kaiserguy]

59. You are of course right

However with each passing day the GOP descends further down into the pit. Todays GOP will do anything to win, lying, cheating and stealing, are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the GOP and Rat F---ing our side. Sadly some of the purists seem willing to risk Trump winning in an effort to get what they want.

[Joinfortmill]

86. Thank God there are more of us.

[Grasswire2]

92. good point! nt

[Talitha]

3. BOOM!!!

[dalton99a]

4. Kick

[The Magistrate]

5. The Man Would Know, Ma'am

There really is no question Reade lies. Or that anyone who presses for some further explanation or evidence from Mr. Biden wants really anything but to keep the pot boiling to avoid any square look at things like the cheap thug's intent to kill scores of thousand of people over the next few weeks because the wretch actually imagines piles of corpses will help his election campaign....


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."

[canetoad]

6. K&R

For the truth.

[qazplm135]

7. I don't know about put an end to it

but it's always good to have confirmation of something we already knew, that Biden was vetted specifically on sex assault and harassment claims and none came up, one assumes as recently as 2007 which is well after Reade.

[Demsrule86]

30. The weak ever changing Reade 'story' is not believable and it will end because it has no legs with

Vice President Biden. We know Joe.

[betsuni]

8. K&R

[BGBD]

10. Obama was on a very clear path to winning in 2008.

McCain was never that much of a threat to him. We really were able to "measure the drapes."

So, Obama could have picked anybody he wanted as VP. It wasn't a pick that he needed to make to put him ahead or to win some state. He picked Biden because he was the single best person to serve in that position. Had they found anything troubling during his vetting, they'd have moved on. There wasn't a need to cover anything up, this wasn't a political pick.

[Demsrule86]

31. That is a hindsight is 2020 kind of statement. I worked that election. It was not a sure thing.

Electing the first Black president in a country that held slave less than 250 years before was huge and no one was sure what would happen.

[BGBD]

42. it never felt

close. The data always showed Obama winning and other than for a week or so around the Repub convention, winning easily.

Him being black was a media driven hurdle that nobody really had an issue with. They would run segments of "Obama way ahead in polls, but are people lying?" It was silliness. Obama had an aggregate lead, Rs were facing bad and worsening fundamentals, and Dems had an advantage in the EC at the time.

Biden wasn't VP to attract the racist vote.

[Demsrule86]

45. It was close actually...independents broke late. We were not sure who would win. I remember going

home on election day...had been dropping off literature and driving people to the polls...I was supposed to hand out water for people in the long lines expected in Cleveland but didn't end up having to do this. I wasn't sure what would happen. The internal polls looked pretty good but it was no sure thing. Hindsight is 2020 as they say.

[BGBD]

56. That

just seems to be you being nervous more than anything tangible.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/todays-polls-and-final-election/amp/

This thing was in the bag. Biden was a safe pick, and if he had any problem whatsoever Obama could have passed him up without losing. Biden was clean as a whistle.

[honest.abe]

71. Not true. McCain was leading in the polls during the spring and early fall prior to the election.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#polls

[BGBD]

72. and Obama was in a

nasty primary fight and had no name recognition. Once he became the clear nominee it was over.

[honest.abe]

73. You said "McCain was never that much of a threat to him."

That was an incorrect statement.

[BGBD]

74. He wasnt

leading in spring polls doesn't make you a threat, the race hadn't even started.

[honest.abe]

75. McCain was also leading in early Sept.

If not for the 2008 financial crisis and Palin self destructing it would likely have been a very close race.

Not sure why you are so insistent on this when you clearly are wrong.

[BGBD]

76. convention bump.

it faded immediately.

all the crash did was move it from a normal margin of victory to a landslide. McCain picked Palin because his campaign was desperate and it was a hail Mary. Obama was not in a position where he needed to take a risk with his pick. He was favored to win by every metric we use to forecast elections.

Obama was leading all summer in PA, WI. Mi, and MN and was outperforming Kerry everywhere. It was clear places that had been R strongholds were looking like battlegrounds and many were moving to to Obama, that was clear by midsummer. Bush was highly unpopular and it was hurting McCain. Obama had a coalition that was going to give him an advantage in the EC.

Again, Biden would not have been the VP pick if there had been any hint of scandal in his vetting.

[honest.abe]

77. I think leading in the polls in September certainly qualifies as a "threat"..

to anyone other than you.

Ciao.

[BGBD]

78. only

don't take anything else into account, including the timing and quality of those polls

Nate Silver forecasted an Obama victory in March

[honest.abe]

79. Nate Silver also forecasted a Hillary Clinton victory in 2016.

[BGBD]

81. not really

He gave her a 70% chance to win. a lot lower than the 90% chance he gave Obama. He spent the entire week before the election telling people the models were too confident and that all Trump needed was a normal polling error in his favor and he could win the EC.

[honest.abe]

82. You are really desperate to prove nothing.

Bye again.

[The Magistrate]

90. People Often Misunderstand Prediction Couched In Probabilities, Sir

If odds are seven to three for a binary event, should the event be run a great many times, say ten thousand, the tabulated results will run close to one result occurring 7,000 times, and the other 3,000. Odds of a bit more than two to one are encouraging for a single trial, but by no means decisive. People with a four point to make do sometimes make it at a craps table, yet 'Don't Pass' remains the bet that will pay off in the long run. Since an election is run only once, that the less likely event occurred does nothing to discredit the statement that the odds against it ran at seven to three.


"Talk about your gamblers, oughta see my Richard Lee. He shot one thousand dollars, and come out on a three."

[Joinfortmill]

87. If I'm not mistaken, that race is over.

[Thekaspervote]

12. Haven't been a fan of Alexrod these past months..in the end, did the absolute right thing

[Skya Rhen]

39. And for some strange reason, he has constantly shown he's not a fan of Biden. Glad he put that aside

and decided to be fair and honest.

[Demsrule86]

46. Thanks for this post Skya...hope you are well. I did K&R it...sometimes I forget!

[trueblue2007]

13. SHE wants her 16 minutes of fame.... how sad. Liar liar.... Tara is on fire.

[Demsrule86]

33. A troubled woman clearly...burning what is left of her life down...kind of sad really.

[roamer65]

15. COVID-45 versus Joe Biden.

This is the easiest and most pleasurable vote I will have ever cast.

BIDEN 2020.

[phylny]

16. K/R

[orleans]

19. k&r n/t

[BigmanPigman]

21. Expect a lot more, and worse too.

This is nothing. In fact, I won't rest at all until well after the inauguration (if we, win that is).

[Squidly]

28. We aint seen nothin yet!

Wait for the October Surprise...it will more than likely be a real doozy...

[Demsrule86]

34. I doubt it...Biden is well known.

And has been vetted repeatedly.

[Squidly]

62. I know that, and you know that

But its still not going to stop a lie from being fabricated and spread just as this whole rape thing has been. Not putting anything past tRump and his minions

[BigmanPigman]

70. And it doesn't have to do with women either.

Look at what Comey did to Hillary. Look at the lengths tRump went through (impeachment) to get Biden dirt from Ukraine. Like I said...way worse!

[Joinfortmill]

88. So many people hated Hillary - So many more love Joe. He's going to win.

[Demsrule86]

97. They did it the entire primary. It won't stick.

[BGBD]

22. The same people

who try to tell us that Biden can't speak in complete sentences or "draw a clock" are also saying that he is Neo from The Matrix. Able to avoid all security cameras, guards, reporters, and workers while raping someone in a public area of one of the most heavily guarded and surveilled buildings in the world. After that he was able to become a ninja and steal all copies, including her own copy, of the complaints that she filed against him. Then Agent K style, was able to wipe the memories of everyone she told about it.

That's Joe Biden. Time bending, mind controlling, and reality warping Joe Biden.

[Skya Rhen]

35. +1000

[DIVINEprividence]

64. Downplaying Biden works in his favor

All the predictable rhetoric about Biden’s age etc. only serves to lower expectations which helps his campaign. You are better off exceeding a low expectation than not meeting a high one. Biden did an excellent job debating a very aggressive Bernie Sanders. Review his speech at the last DNC Convention. He is a great public speaker. He is in a great spot. He is both winning in all the polls and has low expectations which is a great place to be as a candidate.

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html?m=1

[BGBD]

68. Absolutely

especially in debates you are only judged against the expectations people had for you going in, not against the other candidates performance so much.

People expected Trump to drool on stage against Hillary and when he didn't he did way better than expected. This time the narrative is "Trump will destroy Biden in the debates!"

This overlooks Biden outperforming expectations against Bernie, his history of doing very well in one on one debates, and his Bill Clinton-esque ability to connect on a personal and empathetic level with voters. Trump on the other hand is no longer a joke, but is President and will come in with that weight on him. If he looks at all shaky it will hurt badly like Obamas first debate with Romney, but the VP debate probably won't save him like it did Obama in 12.

In short, 🌹/MAGA Twitter is dumb and their dismissal of Biden will help him significantly.

[Hekate]

23. KnR. Bookmark. Thank you David Axelrod.

[SheltieLover]

24. K&R

[DFW]

25. A friend of mine was the head of Hillary's VP vetting team 4 years ago.

They are like the FBI, CIA and KGB combined.

After the Eagleton fiasco in 1972, no Democratic Presidential candidate was going to risk anything even faintly embarrassing in his VP pick, much less an unresolved rape claim.

If Biden has been guilty of so much as littering with an outstanding unpaid fine, Obama would have picked someone else in 2008. It is not a trivial matter that he didn't.

[BComplex]

27. The reason Ari Melber and Chris Hayes have been bringing it up: it comes from the top.

When 6 companies own 92% of the media in this country, and all of the large media companies are run by EXTREMELY rich, rightwing conservative boards of directors/managers, you're going to have donald trump elected president, and joe biden accused of rape. If that's not bass-ackwards, then I'm a monkey's uncle.

[Demsrule86]

36. Hayes for sure and I think Melber as well are in the tank for Sen. Sanders...not saying Sen. Sanders

is behind this - so don't go there. This is an effort to destroy Biden using their media power so they can make their preferred candidate the nominee...take what they couldn't win in the primary. It is arrogant and condescending for them attempt to substitute their opinion/will for millions of primary voters.

[BComplex]

38. Not so. Bernie Sanders does not want to be the nominee any longer. He has thrown all his

weight behind Joe. He just wants some of his policies to get put on the table, which is what all of his supporters want.

[Demsrule86]

52. In my post, I stated that Sanders was not involved. But his supporters are involved. They want him

to be the nominee. Hayes particularly was horrible during the primary...although the rest weren't much better. Mika and Joe gave free airtime to Trump every morning.

[BComplex]

61. "His supporters" is a VERY broad brush. ALL of the Bernie supporters that I know personally, and

there are a bunch of them, are totally behind Biden, and very grateful that Biden is willing to listen to Bernie's position on matters. And now that we have this pandemic, I think a whole host of people are comforted by the fact that Biden is our nominee.

Are there some people who supported Bernie who are as radical as a bunch of rightwingers willing to create an armed insurgence into the Michigan state house? Yes. Radicals are everywhere. And just like this bunch of trouble-makers in Michigan/Raleigh, they are a small but vocal group.

But by far the majority (tens of millions) of Bernie Sanders supporters are liberals who want everyone to have access to medicare, who want an end to socialism for corporations, who want a living wage and protection for workers, and who want to have the same shot at a college education that most other developed western countries have without going broke.

Now, do we know that's probably not going to happen in ANY administration in the NEAR future? Of course! No matter WHO had won the Democratic nomination. But we want those issues on the table, so more people can begin to see the good sense it makes, and we can grow a movement toward a more just society. That is the only reason Bernie still wants to keep his votes: so he can make sure the convention hears from the tens of millions of people who want these things.

[DIVINEprividence]

69. I agree. Most Bernie supports are solid

For the most part Bernie has been far more supportive than he was back in 2016. But there is the Susan Sarandon element among his crowd that are into causing turmoil because of some delusional idea of absolutist progressive idealism and political protest from the 1960’s. These are the folks who will stage a big protest in your city right during rush hour causing you to spend 3 hours getting home in a nightmare commute leaving you cursing whatever cause they were protesting that you actually sympathetic to until they shut all the roads down leaving you in concrete jungle commute hell. These idiots still think doing stuff like this raises consciousness and rallylies people to your cause. It does the opposite. These idiot Trump protesters railing against pandemic containment efforts are another case in point. They are just provoking backlash.

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html?m=1

[BComplex]

99. What city was this? And when? eom

[GoCubsGo]

40. Yep.

The other Sanders dead-enders, like Krystal Ball, Nicole Sanders, and Greenwald, are pushing this crap, as well. Apparently, they think that forcing out Biden in a smear campaign is the way to get Bernie the nomination. They don't care that Bernie endorsed Biden, and would not have done so had there been a "there" there. They are just as reprehensible as their right-wing counterparts in my book.

[Demsrule86]

53. Well said...+1000 I agree completely.

[Joinfortmill]

89. I see ratings slumps in their future and well deserved.

[Demsrule86]

95. I think Chris Hayes already experienced this...and his shitty 'apology' won't help him.

[Cha]

96. What did he say, Dems?.. I missed that.

Thank you.

[DIVINEprividence]

66. I think they are motivated by progressive guilt

Most progressive leaning folks are aware of the raw deal women often face. I think they were more motivated by misguided liberal guilt and feeling they have to be “fair” because she is a woman making accusations of sexual assault. It is a noble intention, and correct if the accuser and the claim is legitimate which is part of your responsibility as a credible journalist to determine. But this is not the case with Tara Reade not even close. How is it that I can find all this damning info on her but they can’t? They have done zero homework. You don’t just report an accusation with no merit just because someone makes it, especially with what is at stake. That is why the NYT dropped it after they did a little digging to discover she is a con artist and scammer with a long rap sheet.

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html?m=1

[Stuart G]

29. kick

[DIVINEprividence]

32. Feminists need to forcefully condemned Tara Reade

Influential feminist leaders need to call Tara Reade out and condemn her. She is clearly a lying con scam artist. Women who make false accusations like this do great harm to women with legitimate claims of sexual assault. Any one defending Reade or legitimizing her false accusation are doing Trump’s bidding and will have egg on their faces, she is so clearly a fraud.

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html?m=1

[wryter2000]

57. Amen

This kind of horse shit makes all accusations of assault suspect.

[mopinko]

41. i would not dream of arguing w ax.

ever.
fully armed in a bullet proof vest, still no.

[H2O Man]

43. Recommended.

[HAB911]

48. When a Trumper even mentions this

all I say is, STFU.

[wryter2000]

58. Yeah

I'm not sure even Trump could make accusations with a straight face.

[DIVINEprividence]

67. Just list his 30 assault accusations

and roll the access Hollywood tape

[StarfishSaver]

49. Unfortunately, thanks to Mika, Chris and some misguided Democrats, the cow's out of the barn

We're going to be hearing about this for the next six months, regardless how baseless it is ... It doesn't have to be true to be a story anymore. That was the point.

Link to tweet

?

Link to tweet

Stephanie Jones
@StephanieJ_DC

This accusation (note the singular) against Biden has absolutely nothing to do with any concerns about women, but is all about creating an excuse for Trump supporters to deflect criticism (whatever the subject matter) of their hero with non-stop "What about BIDEN?!" distractions that send us hopping into various rabbit holes, halting any cogent analysis of Trump's despicability.

And they know the media will play along, pushing false equivalence narratives equating one questionable claim against Biden to dozens of very credible claims against Trump.

This is the 2020 version of "but her emails" ...

You're being played, people. Don't fall for it!

[Joinfortmill]

91. No it will end if we speak up. I've already tweeted Mighty Mika for her unbridled stupidity.

[WyattKansas]

50. If she really believes what she says, is she sure that it is just not her imagination?

Just because she may have had her own fantasies in the past doesn't mean that she can claim it was real. That seems more plausible than what she has claimed, especially with absent complaints and her and her supporters changing stories.

[Lonestarblue]

51. We should all never click on an article about this story.

The media is about clicks—what people look at. If no one clicks, the story disappears. I really can’t believe how much time the media is spending on this. Biden needs to push the Senate clerk to research those records ASAP. And Bernie Sanders needs to tell his supporters to cut it out. They’re the ones trying to get Biden to resign so Bernie can take his place. Their behavior is despicable.

[marieo1]

60. Totally trust..........

I totally trust David Axelrod and Joe Biden

[DIVINEprividence]

63. If you are upset with certain journalists

Tweet them. Email them. Challenge them on blogs etc. not with name calling but with the damning facts surrounding Tara Reades’ credibility. If that is her name since she has a long list of aliases. All the ammunition you will ever need is in the link below. There is a reason why the NYT didn’t run with this. The accusations are complete and utter bs. Demand retractions and public apologies from these journalists.

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html?m=1

[Ninga]

65. Kick!

[saidsimplesimon]

80. "Yesterday came suddenly."

Skya, I am a Senator Warren and Senator Clinton fan, meh....to Mr. Biden. My loyalty is focused on the defeat of that cretin who occupies our White House.

[SergeStorms]

83. End of ratfucking accusation.

Period.

[Joinfortmill]

84. I hope we can now end this despicable charade.

[Blue Owl]

93. Diamond Joe's sterling reputation should blind a corrupt fuck like tRUmp

n/t

[Ferrets are Cool]

94. MSM wont let it die.

If not her, someone else. They need their talking points.

[blakstoneranger]

98. DUH, I DIDN'T NEED ANYBODY TO TELL ME THAT..

HER STORY RUNS PARALLEL TO E JEAN CARROLL'S STORY ABOUT HOW TRUMP RAPED HER. WHAT'S MORE IS THAT NOTICE THAT THE MEDIA IS NOT PRESSING ON THE ISSUE OF WHY TRUMP HAS NOT RESPONDED TO E JEAN CARROLL'S REQUEST TRUMP'S DNA. Trump expects the media to go after biden but not him. Make no mistake folks, this f-up story was cooked up by the RNC and the trump campaign. think about all the other dirty shit trump has done' to bring down biden. he was so desperate he was willing to be impeached. do you think paying off someone with (let's say) a million dollars to amp up a weak sexual harassment story with a big lie attached to it is beneath them? All he wanted Ukraine to do was make an announcement on tv, all he wanted her to do was make an announcement on tv. Then let the media do the rest. THIS BULLSHIT HAS TRUMP WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. IT PROVES HOW INCOMPETENT HE IS AND HOW HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE PRESIDENT. HE'S A LOW LIFE!!!