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kentuck

(111,499 posts)
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:17 AM May 2020

If vaccine for the virus is developed in the next two or three months, will you take it?

Or will you take your chances out there in the wild world?

If they rush it, there will most likely not be adequate testing? They will not fully understand the side effects?

And it may be similar to a placebo, just to ease the mind of the public?

Personally, it will be hard for me to trust anything coming from this Administration.

They have torn down whatever trust was there.

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If vaccine for the virus is developed in the next two or three months, will you take it? (Original Post) kentuck May 2020 OP
No. I will continue to self isolate until we see how many human guinea pigs Raven May 2020 #1
+1 2naSalit May 2020 #41
That's my plan, and I recognize my privilege MH1 May 2020 #42
+1. nt tblue37 May 2020 #48
trump said he was in charge of the vaccine....no thanks spanone May 2020 #2
Depends where it comes from. a la izquierda May 2020 #3
Yes I would definitely take that one tavernier May 2020 #17
Yes, that one. nt tblue37 May 2020 #49
I agree. With this Administration in place Vogon_Glory May 2020 #25
Amen get the red out May 2020 #27
Not a chance. Squinch May 2020 #4
NO! I can save my life by not driving on roads! at140 May 2020 #5
So you think social restrictions to control Voltaire2 May 2020 #53
No, but my life is safer by not driving my car at140 May 2020 #54
I won't be the first in line, but yes. Xipe Totec May 2020 #6
I have no trust in anything Trump promotes Generic Brad May 2020 #7
I Would Follow My Doctor's Advice, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #8
I would too and she would tells me that if Raven May 2020 #9
I Expect His Advice , Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #13
Hers would be too. She'll take a good look at who is Raven May 2020 #23
I may accept a vaccinaton Yonnie3 May 2020 #10
My wife and I have discussed this Chainfire May 2020 #11
Nope. GoCubsGo May 2020 #12
That's my plan as well. lark May 2020 #26
I have relevent background to research the method/technique used to produce... hlthe2b May 2020 #14
Thanks. I hope you will share your analysis with us. riversedge May 2020 #20
I will but these kinds of forums are challenging for users to delineate the validity of comments. hlthe2b May 2020 #22
Not this soon Maeve May 2020 #15
I'd prefer to wait about six months. I'll continue to shelter in place. Mike 03 May 2020 #16
Only if it's proven safe and effective. Aristus May 2020 #18
its debatable for sure if NOT proven beachbumbob May 2020 #19
Last year I told my doctor that I'm not a guinea pig. In_The_Wind May 2020 #21
When and if my doctor recommends it, I probably would. MoonRiver May 2020 #24
No way! duforsure May 2020 #28
No Sunsky May 2020 #29
No, even Fauci is refusing to testify in front of the house. NOTHING can be trusted from the Trump uponit7771 May 2020 #30
Fauci isn't "refusing to testify in front of the House" COLGATE4 May 2020 #43
If you take a vaccine in the next two or three months, you ARE the testing. Mariana May 2020 #31
Sort of like the protestors that were encouraged to get out there and win one for the Gipper...? kentuck May 2020 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #33
I think you're confusing the "they" with the federal government. yardwork May 2020 #34
Can they be politically manipulated by this Administration? kentuck May 2020 #46
I doubt it. Sure, there might be a few, but most scientists are pretty focused on their work. yardwork May 2020 #52
Tough question. I'll probably wait... Wounded Bear May 2020 #35
I live in Canada - if our minister of health says a vaccine Fiendish Thingy May 2020 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 May 2020 #55
Not until there is a huge number vaccinated without side effects. sinkingfeeling May 2020 #37
If my state's governor Newsom or our health department recommends it, yes. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #38
I probably would. boston bean May 2020 #39
Shoot me: I will LeftInTX May 2020 #40
I will try to get the best information I can before deciding whether to take it or not. totodeinhere May 2020 #44
With proper research, yes. I'm an RN caring for vets. If I believe it reduces my chance of giving it Maru Kitteh May 2020 #45
absolutely Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #47
Many people give Trump way too much power Steelrolled May 2020 #50
Absolutely NO, I will not be a part of a government experiment! nt Raine May 2020 #51
The soonest one would be available is sometime next year. roamer65 May 2020 #56
not while Trump is still playing pretend president Skittles May 2020 #57
I have no choice but to take the vaccine unless covid gets me first. KWR65 May 2020 #58

Raven

(13,982 posts)
1. No. I will continue to self isolate until we see how many human guinea pigs
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:19 AM
May 2020

die for Trump's quest for a "Noble" Prize in Medicine.

MH1

(17,882 posts)
42. That's my plan, and I recognize my privilege
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:17 AM
May 2020

in having a very strong expectation that I'll be able to do that.

My heart aches for the people and families who will suffer if a botched "vaccine" is pushed on them and they don't have the privilege to escape it.

a la izquierda

(11,823 posts)
3. Depends where it comes from.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:21 AM
May 2020

The Oxford team’s work seems promising. I would get vaccinated if it was with that one.

tavernier

(12,586 posts)
17. Yes I would definitely take that one
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:45 AM
May 2020

because it’s been given to humans over the years for a different virus, and has so far been shown to be effective for COVID-19. Either way since it has been given before and is not harmful to humans, I don’t see why not take it in lieu of other protection that has had the benefit of longer testing.

Vogon_Glory

(9,246 posts)
25. I agree. With this Administration in place
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:04 AM
May 2020

I wouldn’t trust anything this administration touts as a cure or a preventative.

If the Oxford team comes out with something, I’d be willing to get vaccinated, but at this point I’d want to get my shot from a reputable Canadian lab.

Squinch

(51,337 posts)
4. Not a chance.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:22 AM
May 2020

I'll take it in it's second or third generation.

I'll let others be used as test subjects.

at140

(6,113 posts)
5. NO! I can save my life by not driving on roads!
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:25 AM
May 2020

40,000 Americans die every year (average of past 25 years) and hundred thousand are severely injured.
We should reduce speed limit on roads down to 10 MPH to save thousands of lives YEAR AFTER YEAR.

at140

(6,113 posts)
54. No, but my life is safer by not driving my car
Sun May 3, 2020, 05:24 PM
May 2020

why do I say that? Because my crowded cruise ended on Feb 29th. Almost all crew was either Chinese, Indonesian, or from Thailand.
We never missed the packed stage show in theater every evening. And ate at the crowded buffet every lunch time and dinner in the dining room on a table for 8. Upon return from cruise I have shopped at grocery stores every week. And stopped at the bank and filled my gas tank couple of times. Filling gas is the dirtiest place in town because a 100 strangers have touched the gas dispenser handle. And every 3 weeks I accompany my wife to the hospital for her chemo to sit in with her cancer doctor appointment. And I pick up food from restaurants since both of us hate cooking. So what I am 80 years old, I practice meticulously washing hands with soap before touching any of the 9 body openings. No symptoms, no cough, no fever, still healthy as a horse.

But I get side swiped every week on average driving my diminutive Chevy Spark car. Now that is more risky in my life than visiting stores or enjoying a Caribbean cruise, going by actual experience. Social distancing is a good practice because no one has the iron discipline which I have about washing hands before touching vulnerable parts of body.

Generic Brad

(14,307 posts)
7. I have no trust in anything Trump promotes
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:27 AM
May 2020

I prefer to wait for the one made available by the Biden administration.

The Magistrate

(95,636 posts)
13. I Expect His Advice , Ma'am
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:37 AM
May 2020

Would be based on the peer-reviewed science behind any serum that became available.

He was spitting tacks about the inadequacy and fecklessness of the regime's response to the early stages of the contagion when last I saw him.

Raven

(13,982 posts)
23. Hers would be too. She'll take a good look at who is
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:01 AM
May 2020

heading up the peer review. Fact is, nothing good will come out of Trump's involvement in the development of a vaccine, nothing. Birx has already sold her soul, Fauci is still standing but no way to know for how long. I would be taking a very close look at the peer reviewers to see what they or their institutions stand to lose, or gain, for a positive review of Trump's vaccine.

Yonnie3

(17,703 posts)
10. I may accept a vaccinaton
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:32 AM
May 2020

perhaps waiting a few months first to see if it is dangerous.

I will continue social distancing, mask wearing and isolation behavior as much as possible until there is a much larger data set on its actual performance.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
11. My wife and I have discussed this
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:33 AM
May 2020

and no, we don't trust this government to do the right thing. I will look forward to getting the vaccine after it has been used for nine months or so with positive results, and few side effects.

What our present government is willing to do is do the final testing of the vaccine with the general population as the test subjects while they sit back with fingers crossed. It is the same kind of thing Boeing did with their 737 wide body.

What my fear is is that one side effect from an untested vaccine may be growing a new head in your colon, and I could not stand being converted to a Republican.

GoCubsGo

(32,357 posts)
12. Nope.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:36 AM
May 2020

I'll wait and see for several months. After that, if there's evidence that it is safe and effective, then yes. I'll take it. But, I'm not going to hold my breath about the "safe and effective" part. Like you, I don't trust those motherfuckers one bit.

lark

(23,504 posts)
26. That's my plan as well.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:07 AM
May 2020

If it's developed in the USA, I will have doubts and will wait at least 60 days to make sure it's not a zombie killer version. Yes, I have read and watched too many apocalyptic books/movies where the world is killed by a new vaccine/cancer drug/AIDS treatment plus I know that drumpf is killing us for personal/political profit. If it's an Oxford developed vaccine, I would trust that more, maybe only wait 5-6 weeks vs. a full 90 days?

hlthe2b

(103,319 posts)
14. I have relevent background to research the method/technique used to produce...
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:38 AM
May 2020

There are a lot of new methodologies and I think there more questions for some than others. I will research the methods, the track record of the producer and developer, whether any applicable animal studies were conducted (preferably in primates), and the reaction of European and WHO researchers in addition to the wide range of US virologists and vaccine experts. They will be discussing it publicly and even more frankly on select message boards/forums.

It is a given that the first to receive it after the trials will be health care and public health workers and first responders. The general public will thus have the benefit of their experience in addition to phase2/3 clinical trials. So those who are angry that they can't get said vaccine when it is first introduced might realize that they are actually benefiting from the delay.

hlthe2b

(103,319 posts)
22. I will but these kinds of forums are challenging for users to delineate the validity of comments.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:59 AM
May 2020

Everyone has an opinion after all.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
16. I'd prefer to wait about six months. I'll continue to shelter in place.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:45 AM
May 2020

Just to err on the side of caution.

Aristus

(67,034 posts)
18. Only if it's proven safe and effective.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:50 AM
May 2020

I have a hard enough time getting patients to get their vaccines even though they're safe and effective.

If they try to rush through a problematic immunization, all my hard work getting people to trust vaccines will be for nothing.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
19. its debatable for sure if NOT proven
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:52 AM
May 2020

I have a hard time thinking CDC, FDA or any health official would want to mislead the US. Trump I expect him to but he has no morals to speak off.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
21. Last year I told my doctor that I'm not a guinea pig.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:59 AM
May 2020

I'll wait until its been tested.

I've adjusted to wearing a mask and one way shopping in grocery stores.

I wish others would do the same.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
24. When and if my doctor recommends it, I probably would.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:04 AM
May 2020

But I doubt he would approve a vaccine that was fast tracked, without adequate clinical trials.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. No way!
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:24 AM
May 2020

I don't trust anything that's done while trumps in office, which shouldn't be long now. Once replaced with JB , probably.

Sunsky

(1,753 posts)
29. No
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:29 AM
May 2020

I won't be their test subjects. Things are be rushed, protocols pushed aside to satisfy the no-clothes emperor. I'll wait and see if there are any issues, then take it. Trump has corrupted all institutions he deals with. As a healthcare worker, I'm shocked with the CDC's response to the coronavirus (from botched testing to unsound/ unsafe PPE guidelines/ no public masks- public should wear masks). It's hard when you can't trust these governing bodies that are supposed to give fact-driven/ evidence-based guidelines. After we vote Trump out of the Whitehouse, we need inquiries into the failure of the CDC, FDA, HHS etc in the coronavirus response. This should not happen again, no matter who is in power.

uponit7771

(90,514 posts)
30. No, even Fauci is refusing to testify in front of the house. NOTHING can be trusted from the Trump
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:37 AM
May 2020

... admin

COLGATE4

(14,780 posts)
43. Fauci isn't "refusing to testify in front of the House"
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:34 AM
May 2020

He is being prohibited from doing so by Trump.

Mariana

(14,879 posts)
31. If you take a vaccine in the next two or three months, you ARE the testing.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:42 AM
May 2020

You ARE the guinea pig. Just saying.

kentuck

(111,499 posts)
32. Sort of like the protestors that were encouraged to get out there and win one for the Gipper...?
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:43 AM
May 2020

They were nothing but guinea pigs.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

yardwork

(62,339 posts)
34. I think you're confusing the "they" with the federal government.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:48 AM
May 2020

The scientists who are working on vaccine development - at research universities, industry, and yes, federal agencies - have dedicated their careers to using science to save lives.

What politicians do, that's a separate issue.

I will certainly get a vaccine when/if it becomes available.

yardwork

(62,339 posts)
52. I doubt it. Sure, there might be a few, but most scientists are pretty focused on their work.
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:08 PM
May 2020

Now, what the Trump administration might do with their work, that I don't trust at all.

Wounded Bear

(59,280 posts)
35. Tough question. I'll probably wait...
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:49 AM
May 2020

hell, I don't even buy new software or hardware. I'm not a beta tester.

I get my flu shots from the VA, for free. I'll probably wait until they start offering them. Hopefully it'll be safe. But I won't trust much until Trump is safely removed from the reins of gov't.

Fiendish Thingy

(16,392 posts)
36. I live in Canada - if our minister of health says a vaccine
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:55 AM
May 2020

Has been tested and determined to be safe and effective, and is now available, hell yes, sign me up.

Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #36)

Alex4Martinez

(2,283 posts)
38. If my state's governor Newsom or our health department recommends it, yes.
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:07 AM
May 2020

But a hard NO if it comes from the white house or a national recommendation associated with the white house.

LeftInTX

(27,110 posts)
40. Shoot me: I will
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:14 AM
May 2020

But afterward, I would still do the distancing stuff.

I would be most concerned that it wouldn't work as opposed to bad side effects.

Since Coronvirus is closely related to the flu etc, I think a vaccine would be safe. Sure there is a possibility that a vaccine could be contaminated, but you take that chance with any vaccination.

totodeinhere

(13,127 posts)
44. I will try to get the best information I can before deciding whether to take it or not.
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:37 AM
May 2020

If I feel it has been rushed to market without adequate clinical trials then I might postpone taking it. I don't want to take a vaccine that will potentially do more harm than good. However, if I can be convinced of its safety then absolutely I will take it. I always get the flu shot. I am a big believer in safe vaccines.

Maru Kitteh

(28,419 posts)
45. With proper research, yes. I'm an RN caring for vets. If I believe it reduces my chance of giving it
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:40 AM
May 2020

to my guys and gals, then yes.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
50. Many people give Trump way too much power
Sat May 2, 2020, 01:22 PM
May 2020

I ignore him, and am not missing a thing. Governors, researchers, and the medical industry have the power.

Human trials of vaccine started more than a month ago - I don't think Trump had a thing to do with it. I think there will be an open discussion of how much we fast-track a wide-scale vaccine, and Trump will just be a side-line commentator.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/21/818759617/i-wanted-to-do-something-says-mother-of-2-who-is-first-to-test-coronavirus-vacci

roamer65

(36,822 posts)
56. The soonest one would be available is sometime next year.
Sun May 3, 2020, 05:31 PM
May 2020

There will be voluntary efficacy trials first. Then administration will be prioritized to high risk persons first, like health care providers and the elderly.

Young people probably won’t get until 2022 or 2023.

COVID-45 will be out of office on January 20, 2021.

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