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Wounded Bear
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lame54
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hay rick
(9,605 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(11,391 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)That's what you got out of this?
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,391 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(11,391 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)To each his own.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,391 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)
PunkinPi
(5,269 posts)
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Just start yelling, FREE HAIRCUTS as you start walking toward them revving up the weed eater.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,689 posts)Mickju
(1,823 posts)I actually trimmed my own hair this morning and it doesn't look terrible, at least to me. At 76 and male I don't care that much what it looks like.
Watched a few YouTube videos on how to cut a fade haircut and went at it. The first time I ended up shaving my head but the next time I even impressed myself!
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Receding hairline/male pattern balding and always getting it cut high and tight, I gave up and just shave it all with the clippers now. I did try completely shaving it a few times with a razor, but that is a pain with having to keep shaving it often.
Better yet, a counter protest of people walking toward them revving up gas weed eaters, with plenty of filming locations... I actually think it would go viral and start of movement against protesters. It would send the trumpanzees running for the hills.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)ms liberty
(11,237 posts)Maybe you will see what I see or maybe not, but it's not false on its face. Sometimes this shit has to be called out.
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)The tweet in the OP says:
"People aren't out protesting to be waitresses and hairdressers again. People are out demanding their waitresses and hairdressers go back to work. The idea is to force the service industry to serve them despite the risk to the servers.
If you have ever wondered what modern white america would think about slavery today consider the white women yelling and screaming because no one will die to do their frosted bangs. They feel every bit as entitled to own the lives of others as they did 150 years ago."
It's 2020. We have wait staff and servers, waitress implies only women. And while you still do see women called hairdressers, I doubt there's been many men (if any at all) call themselves a hairdresser since Vidal Sassoon, or maybe Warren Beatty in Shampoo.
Next, although the second para uses the phrase "modern white america" the sentence moves on to describe it as the "white women yelling and screaming" because "no one will die for their frosted bangs." Err, there are both men and women at these protests and both sexes are doing their fair share of yelling and screaming. It is undeniable, there are photos of hair cut signs being held by both men and women I've seen them, there are even a few posted in this thread. And I don't know about anyone else, but "frosted bangs" doesn't bring to mind a crowd of protesting men. And as an aside, are frosted bangs even a thing? I hope not!
Here's how it would have been a better and less misogynistic comment:
"People aren't out protesting to be wait staff and hair stylists again. People are out demanding their waiters and hairdressers go back to work. The idea is to force the service industry to serve them despite the risk to the servers.
If you have ever wondered what modern white america would think about slavery today consider the white people yelling and screaming because no one will die to cut their hair or serve them in a restaurant. They feel every bit as entitled to own the lives of others as they did 150 years ago."
I am really surprised so few DU'ers have commented on this aspect of it, because that second para is the one that screams misogyny to me. The sentiment is dead on accurate, and that is what everyone is approving of, but the message is a bit flawed.
nini
(16,830 posts)and they want their 'help' to get back to work to provide it.
Too many people suck in this country and do not give a shit about the worker bees. Sometimes..that's what it is.
Now.. corporate America also has their agenda, but these type idiots are all about themselves.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)I noticed that these protests don't seem to include PoC, although you'd expect them to be as eager to go back to their jobs as anyone else. You'd expect more service workers who can't work from home to be out on capitol steps yelling at governors to open up their states, but all we see are angry white people - including a lot of white men with guns (PoC carrying guns would probably be arrested on sight, if not shot). Where are the waiters and waitresses and busboys and hotel clerks and maids and janitors and the like who probably need to be working more than anybody?
But Karen can't get her nails done and Bubba can't go to a monster truck rally, so now we have a problem.
(I do get that the small business owners are frustrated and wish they could re-open but a re-opened business that has few or no customers is on the hook for all expenses but can't get any relief and is making no money. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213379639)
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)be opened up. And those complaining? They only represent 10%+- of us, so 90% of us are fine w/ the stay at home orders.
And one DUer posted a comment that sure, you can open up economies, but who will show up?
I think that these misguided efforts to 'open up the economy' are going to backfire, I mean after all, if you think your lives are at risk either working or shopping, would you do it? A lot of us are asking ourselves this question.
Oh, and by the way, I think there's a lot of selfish, self-entitled, spoiled individuals out there, who obviously never faced any hardship (missed a haircut) in their lives. I do really 'feel' for them (not really). Actually, if you want my opinion, I hope their hair falls out.
It's been almost two or so months since the CV hit, and people are complaining already about not getting haircuts, etc.? I'd say that there are lots of other more serious issues out there to worry about, and getting one's hair cut isn't one of them.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)We toughed it out and let our hair grow for years!
Polybius
(21,900 posts)I grew up in the 80's, we had long hair too. But we blowdried it upside down, used a ton of Aquanet, and made sure it was bleached. You guys just grew it out and left it. We had to look pretty. 
csziggy
(34,189 posts)I've had two professional haircuts in the last fifty years and plan to never get another one. My husband's hair has been cut once in that time and he'll never get another haircut - he only got the one to apply for jobs.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)It's an effort to weaponize a pandemic for political gain.
dameatball
(7,669 posts)
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)really knows how widespread the CV is, they have hints based on studies, which indicate the CV is far more widespread than originally thought. But we're still lacking data, testing for antibodies, etc. to determine how widespread and where the CV has spread, so at least we can start to tackle it more effectively. Science and data, science and data...obviously two words that rump and his entourage do not know the definition of, and it's backfiring on them. They're finding out that 90% of us want to remain isolated/self protecting ourselves until we know it's safe.
Chemisse
(31,343 posts)This is all politics.
Bayard
(29,685 posts)
whathehell
(30,468 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)is a white woman perfectly happy - and often proud as hell - that her man is protecting and defending her privilege.
So, while there may be more men in the photos than women, I am not letting the white women who encourage and benefit from this behavior off the hook. They are just as culpable.
Link to tweet
whathehell
(30,468 posts)Sorry, but you'll have to offer something more tangible in the way of evidence than a vague allusion to "history", especially since women, white or otherwise, have rarely been equal partners in marriage. .Try again.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)This isn't about marriage or whether women were equal partners. If you study the history of race in America, in general, and lynchings, in particular, you will see that lynchings frequently involved a supposed desire to protect white women from black men, were defended and often instigated by white women. It's impossible to count the number of black men who were arrested, tried and executed or outright lynched based solely on the accusation from a white woman that they assaulted, raped or simply disrespected them (Emmett Till was kidnapped, tortured and lynched for allegedly whistling at a white woman.)
A woman doesn't have to be the social or economic equal to her husband in order to be complicit in racial violence or other racial injustice.
Considering History: The Role of Women in the Lynching Epidemic
On February 14, Senator Kamala Harris introduced legislation into the Senate that would for the first time in American history make lynching a federal crime ... The horrific stories of lynching are intimately intertwined with African American history, a significant factor in Harris’s choice to introduce the bill during Black History Month. Yet as with any American histories, lynching’s connections extend to every national community. For Women’s History Month, Harris’s prominent role in these unfolding 21st century accounts can also help us remember the fraught, contradictory, and crucial links between American women and the lynching epidemic.
Perhaps the single most jarring defense of lynching was offered by a pioneering feminist activist. Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, the wife and political partner of longtime Georgia Congressman William Harrell Felton, was one of the Progressive Era’s most prominent and acclaimed women’s rights activists: an advocate of women’s suffrage, equal pay, and many other feminist causes, she became the first woman to serve in the U.S. Senate when, at the age of 87, she was honored with a single-day appointment as Senator from Georgia on November 21, 1922. Yet she was also a white supremacist and racist who openly advocated for the systematic lynching of African Americans.
Felton made her case for lynching most vocally in an August 1897 speech to the Georgia Agricultural Society. While she identified a number of problems facing (white) farm wives in the state, she focused in particular on “the black rapist” and the threat he posed to those women. She repeated the canard that Reconstruction had given African Americans “license to degrade and debauch.” And in response to those imagined terrors, she argued, “When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue—if it needs lynching to protect woman’s dearest possession form the ravening human beasts—then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.”
Felton’s bigoted speech reminds us that the era’s progressive white women far too often allied with the forces of segregation and white supremacy, both to further their movement’s goals and (as in Felton’s case to be sure) out of genuine and deeply rooted racism. Yet as historian Martha Jones has recently argued, the under-appreciated contributions of African American women to the women’s suffrage movement played a crucial role in advancing women’s right to vote. One of the most prominent such African American suffrage activists, Ida B. Wells, also happened to be the nation’s leading anti-lynching journalist and crusader.
https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2019/03/considering-history-the-role-of-women-in-the-lynching-epidemic/
One chief among the trespasses (occasionally real, but usually imagined) was any claim of sexual contact between black men and white women. The trope of the hypersexual and lascivious black male, especially vis-a-vis the inviolable chastity of white women, was and remains one of the most durable tropes of white supremacy.
According to the Equal Justice Initiative (EJI), nearly 25% of lynching victims were accused of sexual assault. Nearly 30% were accused of murder...
In the 1931 Maryville, Missouri, lynching of Raymond Gunn, the crowd estimated at 2,000 to 4,000 was at least a quarter women, and included hundreds of children. One woman “held her little girl up so she could get a better view of the naked Negro blazing on the roof”, wrote Arthur Raper in The Tragedy of Lynching. ...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/26/lynchings-memorial-us-south-montgomery-alabama
c-rational
(3,203 posts)paying business interruption claims, giving reThuglican governors an excuse for not paying unemployment claims, and in general protecting corporate interests under the false flag of freedom. I doubt we will see many corporate executives leading this charge.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)From being given directly to the American people . I think trump and Moscow Mitch are trying to stop any more direct checks to the people, but will funnel more to big corporations and into trumps pockets. I suspect trumps behind all this to force people back , and to stiff them out of giving them any more help, and force wages down. And trump wants conflicts pitting people against each other , while he incites violence. He could care less about anyone dying from being forced to go back to work with an active pandemic attacking. Its all about his political gains he can gain from this , nothing more.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)... that “reopen the economy” means “keep poor people from collecting unemployment”? And “work sick or lose your job”?
Not about Freedom
love_katz
(3,261 posts)Plus a gazillion!
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,291 posts)The citizens will continue to vote Republicans in because "all life is sacred."
Amishman
(5,929 posts)They don't care if it's in their own best interest, no one can tell them what to do... 
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)
Grokenstein
(6,356 posts)As Pryor said, “Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out” without the aid of these two government programs. Ayn took the bail out even though Ayn “despised government interference and felt that people should and could live independently… She didn’t feel that an individual should take help.”
But alas she did and said it was wrong for everyone else to do so. Apart from the strong implication that those who take the help are morally weak, it is also a philosophic point that such help dulls the will to work, to save and government assistance is said to dull the entrepreneurial spirit.
In the end, Miss Rand was a hypocrite but she could never be faulted for failing to act in her own self-interest.
--Snopes
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Let the Republicans have their rallies, protests, church gatherings, etc. etc.
Just stay the hell away from them all. For those who have to go to work, protect yourself as much as possible and be mindful of social distancing.
Eventually nature will take care of the problem and survival of the fittest will prevail... Seems nobody told Republicans why humans took over from their ancestors called neanderthals.
BunnyMcGee
(483 posts)Best things to do
LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)cutting people off of unemployment assistance.
Businesses and state governments would rather force people to work in unsafe conditions than pay them a meager amount to sustain themselves and their families at home.
All it takes is a little pushing of "something, something, TYRANNY!" for the dumb MAGAts to jump in and protest, pushing the GOPs agenda.
SharonAnn
(14,173 posts)
luvtheGWN
(1,343 posts)
rustysgurl
(1,098 posts)The huddled masses making just enough to get by (or in some cases not), are really good at reproducing. If some of them die .. .they'll just make more! More to serve us. More to do the work we won't do. More to make us money. More. More. More.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)https://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/defeat-the-right-in-three-minutes/
* Cheap-labor conservatives don't like social spending or our "safety net". Why. Because when you're unemployed and desperate, corporations can pay you whatever they feel like - which is inevitably next to nothing. You see, they want you "over a barrel" and in a position to "work cheap or starve".
* Cheap-labor conservatives don't like the minimum wage, or other improvements in wages and working conditions. Why. These reforms undo all of their efforts to keep you "over a barrel".
* Cheap-labor conservatives like "free trade", NAFTA, GATT, etc. Why. Because there is a huge supply of desperately poor people in the third world, who are "over a barrel", and will work cheap.
* Cheap-labor conservatives oppose a woman's right to choose. Why. Unwanted children are an economic burden that put poor women "over a barrel", forcing them to work cheap.
* Cheap-labor conservatives don't like unions. Why. Because when labor "sticks together", wages go up. That's why workers unionize. Seems workers don't like being "over a barrel".
* Cheap-labor conservatives constantly bray about "morality", "virtue", "respect for authority", "hard work" and other "values". Why. So they can blame your being "over a barrel" on your own "immorality", lack of "values" and "poor choices".
* Cheap-labor conservatives encourage racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among wage earners distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests as wage earners.
BunnyMcGee
(483 posts)Also the full article in the link
love_katz
(3,261 posts)Exactly! You nailed it with each point. 
40RatRod
(566 posts)...I'm sure your funeral director has staff that can cut your hair
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Buckeye_Democrat
(15,526 posts)I just drank some coffee, so I’m ready to help with a key ingredient.
spanone
(141,609 posts)kurtcagle
(2,634 posts)Assault weapons are not cheap. Many of the guns that I see retail for $1000 or more, and that's not even counting the cost of ammunition. Show me someone walking around with one of those and I'll show you someone who has disposable income to burn.
Which again I think goes to prove the argument that the people you see protesting are far from poor, even though they'll take their stimulus checks greedily and hold out their hands for more.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)I'm not a gun owner, so it never occurred to me the money involved in purchasing an assault weapon. But after doing some research, you are right. Those things are not cheap. If these people can buy something that expensive, then surely they can purchase a book on how to cut and style hair. "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Cutting Your Own Hair." or something like that.
Pacifist Patriot
(25,212 posts)I think what they are really about is minimizing and transferring of risk. Unemployment insurance and business continuity insurance.
These easily riled up and exploited rubes are being driven by right wing interests to do their dirty work. They want window dressing support for reopen orders that do nothing but screw workers and small businesses.
The greedy asshats are tapping into that entitled sentiment to claim support for their disasterous decisions.
These folks are too stupid to see it.
pbmus
(13,141 posts)
whathehell
(30,468 posts)
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)
pbmus
(13,141 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)but as I have found out during my life. it you don't TELL people what's in something, and they try it and LIKE it anyway, nothing is lost there.
I think you must like the taste of liver first before diving into the Haggis. If you don't like liver, you'll not like Haggis.
My mother's family is from Scotland, so I've grown up with Haggis. We had it for Sunday dinners, rotating with roast beef and Yorkshire pudding or leg of lamb and tatties, not just on Robbie Burns' night. And we ALWAYS had it on New Years Day, because it was tradition in her family. My great grandmother made it herself WITH the lights as they had a friend who was a butcher and could supply them. And that is the only way you can actually prepare Haggis according to the true recipe. In college, I had a friend from Edinburgh, whose Mum would ship her tins of Scottish made Haggis in her care packages. The taste WAS different, bit it was in a tin, so I don't know . . . .
I order mine from The Scottish Gourmet in Greensboro, North Carolina. (www.scottishgourmetusa.com) They ship it in dry ice packets and it arrives in two days. They have it in 1, 2 and 5 pound packages. They have a catalogue, too, full of Scottish foods and gifts. I spend a LOT of $$$ there on the holidays.
It cracks me up that some people think the Haggis is an animal. But then, there is a funny little book,"Why Did The Haggis Cross the Road ?" The GREAT Scottish comedian, Sir Billy Connolley, once said that the legs of the Haggis were shorter on one side, so that they could stand on the mountainsides and not roll down.
pbmus
(13,141 posts)Anything that a hoofed animal uses to clean his blood or himself....liver, tongue, lungs, etc...
But we will order snails as an appetizer and foie de gras...and think nothing of it...
Our eating habits are weird at times...and thanks for your family story...
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)A dear friend of mine was stationed in South Korea in the the US Air Force back in the 70s. Some of his buddies took him to one of the local food "courts" and ordered for him. He remarked that he wasn't sure he'd ever had that kind of beef before. It wasn't beef. It was dog. He threw up for an hour afterward. Then he became a life-long vegetarian.
There is an international society that celebrates the eating of odd things and each year their annual feast is an attempt to come up with something they've either never eaten before or cooked in a manner they've never tried. I've forgotten their name, but they've been featured on the Discover Channel. They eat scorpions, all manner of insects and flora and fauna. Not for me. But their annual gathering is always interesting.
pbmus
(13,141 posts)One of my eating experiences in Southeast Asia was So unbelievable I still have a hard time believing it myself...I was on RR from Vietnam and was invited to a small dinner party in a Taipei restaurant by a young lady I was dating at that time...As I walked thru the open door I thought she had made a mistake because it looked like carry out only, there was no seating, then she waved to one of the three workers and a door to our right opened up and we were escorted to a back room where there was a large round table with 7-9 people seated and several more waiters and waitresses milling around...I was thinking, WTF is going on ... suddenly I notice a monkeys head in the middle of the table, with the skull removed...I did not stay to see anything else... that whole RR thing was surreal in so many ways...from a combat war zone, getting on helicopter to transport to commercial flight to land in another foreign country and then flown back into the war...was let’s just say mind blowing...To say the least...many more stories , but that one is about eating....
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)and the Temple of Doom. "Ah . . . chilled monkey brains." Well, actually they used red jello and cool whip, but still . . .
And I get dragged for Haggis !!!!
pbmus
(13,141 posts)Just saying, sweet breads are not sweet bread...
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Pass.
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)The double ended one should have been black.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)
mcar
(46,056 posts)i'd have more sympathy if their signs said "My small business will close next week" or something. Instead, it's all "I need a haircut," "I want to buy fertilizer for my lawn," "I miss free refills."
Selfish, selfish gits.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)that everyone should just get sick so we have herd immunity.
But I think the Trumpers are behind all of this, fanning the flames.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)
JI7
(93,616 posts)Cetacea
(7,400 posts)We'd be lost very quickly without them, and many are vastly under payed.
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)augyboston
(379 posts)Did we come up with a proven vaccine? Did this deadly virus suddenly take a flyer and disappear?? Did everyone become immune???
These people are the tea heads, they're tRumpsters, they have zero credibility with most of the American people. Their Jim Jones in the White House; who is backing this madness, has even less credibility than they do.
We need to listen to the health experts and believe the science here and not pay attention to a bunch of extreme right wing zealots who are hell bent on increasing the death count!
N_E_1 for Tennis
(13,032 posts)musclecar6
(1,884 posts)The numb skulls that protest in groups with no social distancing, masks, gloves, etc but sure to bring weapons to the state houses are being egged on by the only out for himself imbecile in chief sociopath to get him re-elected. Just business as usual for the Orange Jackass.
Gothmog
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ProfessorGAC
(76,703 posts)But bears repeating.
CNN had short clips of idiot protestors being interviewed by local news.
One guy, one woman acknowledged on TV that they TOOK THE DAY OFF to protest.
So, it's at least partly true that these people are protesting because the lockdown is inconvenient. Not because they're in a predicament.