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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLooks like msnbc is correcting their coverage.
now they are explicitly discussing all the holes in reades story instead of going accusatory on Biden
CTyankee
(63,889 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)said when asked about so called flubs and downright miss leading stories,the fellow said,we read our Instagram and Twits during Commercial Breaks,and our Producers have to have the Script Writers do a copy rewrite that will be in the Next News program especially when you have more than one show during the evening time slot.
Word of that Conversation to our small group got back to his Station and he was gone within a couple days. But,hey,he did hook up with a Sinclair own local station.
renate
(13,776 posts)Sorry that guy had to go to Sinclair.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)and fill ins. Thirty plus year career and was rated one of the most liked by viewers.
42bambi
(1,753 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Brian Williams and a familiar woman journalist (can't remember her name) talking about tone, tone of all things, as they juxtaposed Bidens denial with the pos denial..I want to say her name is Susan Parker..but can't find..
So, when you say looks like MSNBC is correcting coverage..that is a good thing..but if they are not making last nights full 11th hour segment available..I'll keep searching..
Thanks for this drray 23..
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)Yes, I saw that too and was so glad to finally hear a sane voice in all this. Lately, I've preferred Brian Williams The 11th Hour over MSNBC's other programs. Page was on with Donna Edwards too and they both were much more reasonable than what I was hearing on the other shows.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)close...right church, wrong pew...THANK YOU...
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)Then often the name will pop in my head hours later!
Bev54
(10,038 posts)with 4 or 5 women guests did a full segment on this and it was very well done.
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)I didn't turn the TV on today, as it was getting too stressed out!
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Had the woman. Calls were being made everywhere to fire him..
Scarborough and MIka had Biden on. MIka tried to act like a serious reporter, asking the same question over and over. Finally Biden had enough, asked her what she was trying to prove when he had explained several times that Personnel records would not be in his University records.
Considering the track record of MIka and Joe they are on shaky ground.
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)It was painful to watch that interview. After all these years, Mika should be able to do a decent interview. That was so unprofessional, very disappointing.
Everyone is so upset that Mika and Joe didn't ask Donald Trump tough questions in 2016, but Mika is quick to go after a man of great integrity.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)I gave up watching them long ago, back in the time when she and Joe were being so coy with each other. They were nauseating then, and from sparse moments I've seen, they're worse now.
She and "Debbie" can get together and share scarves.
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)I just started watching it again the last couple of weeks because of the pandemic. Joe isn't as bad as he used to be, but he still goes off on these long, tedious monologues and everyone else fights the urge to roll their eyes. Mika still comes across as very insecure and nervous, which can be exhausting. Her interview of Biden seemed to be personal for some reason. My daughter says Mika's behavior reminded her of a sexual assault survivor. If so, perhaps that is why she seemed to get so emotional.
I'm amazed the show has lasted as long as it has.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)From the sound of it, didn't miss much, and I don't think I'll bother looking for it online.
Mika is very weak on air, and Joe is, as you say, tedious and quite pompous in addition. I find them insufferable and agree with your amazement. Do they have compromising photos of their boss or something?
Speaking of photos, those cutsie photos of Joe and Mika leading into commercial breaks were the straw that broke the camel's back for me. They were pre-marriage, and always reminded me of scenes from the movie "2 1/2 Weeks". There was one in particular of them standing in a dark, dank outside stairwell, soaked from the rain, with Mika with her back against the wall and Joe hovering over her. It was so damn unprofessional and out of place.
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)Joe was more of a bully on the show. He was rude and domineering, often snapping at people for no apparent reason. Its hard to believe the kind of stuff he got away with on air. Since he got married (again), he seems a lot more mild mannered or maybe it is because Trump got elected. His late father-in-law publicly called him "stunningly superficial". I think it was on his own show.
I'd forgotten about those cutsie photos. Yeah very unprofessional.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)I remember ZB making that comment. It was a thing of beauty.
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)One of the few people who called him out to his face.
Fla Dem
(23,586 posts)Then when they turned on Trump, it became "the lesser of 2 evils".
Read some of the tweets to Mika after the interview.
Link to tweet
That sure sounds like a lot of double talk to me. She took a lot of flack for her interview and now she seems to be walking it back or not, depending on the public reaction she gets. Jeez lady, pick a lane.
In either scenario, she says Democrats are wrong.
Maybe one woman was right and one is wrong. For one thing, Ford didn't want to come and testify.
Women should be believed or not. Democrats were right or they weren't. I am a totally superficial flake or not.
I think Mika has some really serious issues.
Cha
(296,808 posts)tblue37
(65,217 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)The reaction. Thanks for that info.
tblue37
(65,217 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)The facts. I am having trouble keeping up with the constant barrage.
But I see Reade has now changed her story after Biden appeared with MIka.
And Lindsey said Joe did not do that!
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Always calm, knowledgable, and confident. Been a fan of hers for years.
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)She is writing an autobiography of Nancy Pelosi. I can't wait.
SharonAnn
(13,771 posts)Yes, a biography. Its been a long week.
CTyankee
(63,889 posts)And Meryl Streep agrees to play her. And, as usual, studies her and her physical mannerisms (those pursed lips not saying what she really feels) and does to her what she did to Margaret Thatcher and probably wins yet another Oscar. I would look forward to that!
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Who could resist, Madame Speaker! That picture of Nancy dressing down Trump while Generals looked shame faced would be all over.
Now Trump will not speak to Nancy, McConnell is side lined with his Grim Reaper brag.
Mnuchin and Pelosi are getting bills passed. Mitch has been defanged. Trump will sign anything to try and make himself look good, posing with Republicans, cutting Democrats out. But thinking people know.
CTyankee
(63,889 posts)film out of it!
Of course, SNL is already doing it in real time.!!
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)She was dreadful in her Biden interview on Friday.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)So today he looks good and she looks bad. I call that a win win.
nolabear
(41,932 posts)Nobody can say she softballed anything and he handled it with confidence, Grace and just the right combination of anger and refusal to sink to her level.
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)What I did see was Mika asking "the hard questions" in order to let him answer them. And he did. As someone said up thread, it was a win for him that he might not have gotten without her looking as if she was really tearing into him.
nolabear
(41,932 posts)wryter2000
(46,023 posts)malaise
(268,692 posts)Morning Joe Scum - ignore distractions - that is all.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)when they hurt themselves when going after Democrats. Kinda like when President Obama fried Trumps ass to a sizzling crisp in that Correspondents dinner.
The Wizard
(12,534 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)My phone was ringing off the hook when the MIka segment ended from angry women.
Biden on Al Sharpton today at 5.
MSNBC is trying to undo the damage of that snotty nosed Chris Hays caused I quit watching him a long time ago.
Calls for his firing were loud and clear.
Rebl2
(13,461 posts)She was horrible. She came across as rude as well. She just kept asking the same thing over and over, like she was trying to trip him up. She also couldnt understand the difference between records in his senate days and records from the college he taught at. The ones from the college were position papers. Im sure she got a lot of angry tweets and emails after that.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Ronan Farrow who turned down Reade.
Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)...how the hot takes on the subject from Bors and Lubachansky and all the other up-their-own-ass table-flipping pseudoprogressives have aged. I used to love Bors and theNib, but dropped both when I realized the only people they loathe more than Donald J. Trump are Democrats. They want the farce to go on, it feeds them oxygen. If a grown-up gets in there and restores sanity, they'll just have to work that much harder to pretend only the ultra-rads can save the world.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Will this slapstick attempt at a smear immunize Biden from further spurious allegations? Now that they've been bitten in their collective bottom, will the media be just a little more circumspect about the next nontroversy that blarps up from the wingnuttosphere?
Yeah, probably not.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)tblue37
(65,217 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)because we know red don's backers (russkies, mercers, all the scum) are lining up more faux controversies to convince low-information voters that psychopathic criminal red don is no worse than Biden.
malaise
(268,692 posts)There will be more - Don the criminally negligent Con is history - vote, vote, vote!
Mika with her ALL SO SERIOUS grilling of Joe.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Win to Reid and Biden.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)That swiftboat didn't get far up the river did it.
musclecar6
(1,684 posts)Although I'm a major woman's advocate, I am NOT for women using #me too to fuck some guy over the coals. It's possible Joe could have been up to no good, but not probable with his long track record of working for women's rights, equality etc and it's looking like maybe Tara Reade may have more than a few screws loose or some nefarious purpose in mind.
Now if she were saying this about the Orange Jerkoff, that would certainly be believable ESPECIALLY after his well known " Grab em by the Pussy" video.
tblue37
(65,217 posts)japple
(9,806 posts)by the Obama campaign many years before the Tara Reade "story" broke. I can't believe any of the so-called journalists don't even consider that in their race to be first with the big story.
mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)we are also supposed to believe that Republikkklans didn't investigate Joe Biden when he went on Obama's ticket. Either that or they found something and decided not to use it; out of their deep respect for the Democratic party. <- sarcasm
Doesn't the Senate has the authority to search and release those records. You would think McTurtle face would be combing the files himself. Especially after Biden said to.
Is it any wonder that after Biden asking for those records to be searched that Tare/Alexandria/Reid/Moulton or whatever name she is going by these days, changed her story? Yet again.
Cha
(296,808 posts)Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)This thing is falling apart like a wet cardboard box Cha
Cha
(296,808 posts)Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)Cha
(296,808 posts)blitzen
(4,572 posts)Cha
(296,808 posts)Im digesting and processing everything he said, she told The Wall Street Journal. I will respond.
Reade said that she had planned on doing a sit-down interview with Fox News on Sunday, but canceled it due to threats she received aimed at her and her adult daughter.
In 2019, Reade was one of several women who came forward and said that Bidens alleged public touching made them uncomfortable. In late March, Reade alleged publicly that in 1993, the former vice president sexually assaulted her in a corridor on Capitol Hill.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495836-tara-reade-says-she-is-not-ready-to-respond-to-biden-denial
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13382988
blitzen
(4,572 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Used to be reliable, now it is owned by a Republican billionaire.
Notice the slant of that article.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Like his Father, Mike he digs out facts!
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,581 posts)The only side they take is the money side.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)DFW
(54,277 posts)He needs a dose of former staffer Donna B. Leavit and his sister Purple Hays "coming forward" to tell of perceived offenses Chris Hays committed at someone's 7th birthday party 25 years ago, and telling the graphic details on Joy Reid's show.
Maybe then he'll gain some journalistic perspective? My dad was once president of the Washington, DC Gridiron Club, the one that does the big bash and show for the President every March. He would have been sick at the depths that parts of his profession has descended to.
lark
(23,061 posts)I've been boycotting them since the Fri. Morning Schmoe attack bunny Biden attack from Mika and the ongoing travesty of the coverage for Biden vs. ignoring what drumpf did in the same timeframe. So, I will try Nicole & Rachel to see if they are on Biden about this while ignoring the far worse and habitual actions of the person in the WH. First words of BS about Reade and that station will be off again which means I will not be watching any news on tv.