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TX has flipped on electoralvote.com (Original Post) roamer65 May 2020 OP
Yeah - I just knew Texans were not all nasty, heartless bastards. walkingman May 2020 #1
We used to be a Blue State (almost 100 years). The repugs realigned districts and capitalised on cayugafalls May 2020 #5
The dixiecrats are not proud blue IMO. They became republics after all. Lucky Luciano May 2020 #11
Yes, there was a lot of mental restructuring done by the repugs. cayugafalls May 2020 #13
Fox "news". Lots and lots of propaganda on Fox "news". BComplex May 2020 #49
Yep...and from fux, it's just a short slide down BlancheSplanchnik May 2020 #51
WOW!!! Light63 May 2020 #31
Wow.. that is good news! Cha May 2020 #37
It's definitely looking more like 2008... Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #2
If we flip Texas, Trump and the Repubs are hosed... Wounded Bear May 2020 #3
If a female VP wasn't what we Democrats wanted this year OKNancy May 2020 #4
Beto would make a good cabinet secretary. roamer65 May 2020 #6
I'd prefer Julian Castro over Beto MagickMuffin May 2020 #35
Julian is really smart, and he's definitely got a lot of friends. BComplex May 2020 #50
I love this at the bottom of the graph sdfernando May 2020 #7
I love how COVID-45 is getting his clock cleaned in the Northeast and West Coast. roamer65 May 2020 #8
If the repubs lose either Texas or Florida SCantiGOP May 2020 #9
I think Florida is going for Biden this time. whopis01 May 2020 #12
The worst insult I can think of SCantiGOP May 2020 #22
The idea that there could be... 3catwoman3 May 2020 #48
The other interesting thing about the graph is Biden wins if every "Barely Dem" state goes for Trump whopis01 May 2020 #10
Scary thing is SCantiGOP May 2020 #23
That site has Arizona and North Cackalacky looking blue IronLionZion May 2020 #14
That is wonderful!!!!! kevink077 May 2020 #15
Odd map; Colorado is blue. DavidDvorkin May 2020 #16
Not really...Colorado is blue. Demsrule86 May 2020 #19
I meant that the map shows Colorado as barely blue DavidDvorkin May 2020 #25
Is Gardener from Colorado? Demsrule86 May 2020 #40
He is, the contemptible grinning buffoon DavidDvorkin May 2020 #43
Maybe that is why...I have no idea...how they decide. I often think of Virginia...one years it was Demsrule86 May 2020 #44
Great website! Bookmarked it and sent to a friend. Enjoyed the in depth questions and answers. Canoe52 May 2020 #17
I guess lots of Californians HAVE moved to Texas. Ilsa May 2020 #18
Texas will be a battleground state this cycle Gothmog May 2020 #20
I really hope Texas goes blue awesomerwb1 May 2020 #21
No Rep. Path to victory that doesn't include both TX and FL JCMach1 May 2020 #24
Texas BGBD May 2020 #26
COVID-45 is probably pushing the flip forward by about 10 years. roamer65 May 2020 #34
Yeah BGBD May 2020 #36
The key to winning TX is Beto. roamer65 May 2020 #38
Where does the data underlying the map come from? Foolacious May 2020 #27
Tech burbs going non-Fundie with immigrants bucolic_frolic May 2020 #28
This is great news aquamarina May 2020 #29
Well, that's way ahead of schedule. paleotn May 2020 #30
Yes! I'm greedy, I want the SENATE to go blue too! FakeNoose May 2020 #32
If Texas goes blue... Xolodno May 2020 #33
If TX goes Blue, Trump is toast. AwakeAtLast May 2020 #39
I don't believe it Renew Deal May 2020 #41
Many of the polls are rather old GeoWilliam750 May 2020 #42
I remember this talk in 2016. Hillary was even campaigning there. dsp3000 May 2020 #45
Yeah right. sellitman May 2020 #46
Do we have the DNC's attention now rainbow4321 May 2020 #47

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
5. We used to be a Blue State (almost 100 years). The repugs realigned districts and capitalised on
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:33 PM
May 2020

apathy. Hopefully this has woken up the apathetic and they will vote again.

Of course, the gerrymandering has hurt a lot but we can win it back if people get out and vote.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
13. Yes, there was a lot of mental restructuring done by the repugs.
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:07 PM
May 2020

They had a loud and constant flow of the "tax and spend liberal" and after a time they bought into it and decided to change party.

I think we can get some of them back. At least, I hope we can.

BComplex

(8,049 posts)
49. Fox "news". Lots and lots of propaganda on Fox "news".
Sun May 3, 2020, 11:51 AM
May 2020

And the other media stations trying to out Fox Fox, thinking that their ratings were worth competing with in that market, in total denial that there was a big market for real news!

That's what's wrong with all the red states and rabid weaponized MAGAts.

Light63

(233 posts)
31. WOW!!!
Sat May 2, 2020, 05:24 PM
May 2020

My cousin and her family live in Texas on a rancher setting. She called me today and asked whether I have received the stimulus check. I knew she and her family have always been Republicans so I did not want to mention anything about politics.

All of the sudden, she said although she has always been a Republican, she and her husband will now vote for Biden or any Democratic presidential candidate. She said Trump is not her president. He is cruel and never has any kind or caring thoughts to anyone whose ideas do not align with his, and that is not right. A president is supposed to take care of all people regardless of their political views. She even mentioned about Justin Amash whom she will not vote for. She knows that he is against Trump, but if she votes for him, she will be helping Trump. She said it would not make sense and right for non-Trump republicans to vote for Amash.

So now I have my long-time Republican brother in Calabasas, CA, and my entire-life Republican cousin in Texas voting for the next President of the United States of America Joe Biden comes November!!!

And the Lone Star State of Texas is trending blue! Love the changing in times...

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
2. It's definitely looking more like 2008...
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:19 PM
May 2020

... but with Texas in play too.


Edit: And Arizona too (which McCain won as expected).

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
4. If a female VP wasn't what we Democrats wanted this year
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:33 PM
May 2020

I would sure think Beto would be a good choice. We win Texas and it's all over.

MagickMuffin

(15,936 posts)
35. I'd prefer Julian Castro over Beto
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:38 PM
May 2020

Julian would get a lot of the MexicanAmericans out to vote. I really wanted Julian to run as governor, but alas he didn't. I think he would have crushed Abbott.



roamer65

(36,745 posts)
8. I love how COVID-45 is getting his clock cleaned in the Northeast and West Coast.
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

Two solid blocks for secession if the fucker steals the election.

If he does, I am for separation.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
9. If the repubs lose either Texas or Florida
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:58 PM
May 2020

They basically lose any chance of winning the White House this year and in future elections.

whopis01

(3,511 posts)
12. I think Florida is going for Biden this time.
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:04 PM
May 2020

Florida is always a wildcard - but it is often on the edge of going one way or the other.

The governor (DeSantis) is not popular right now and he is known to get a buddy of Trump. I'm not sure if Trump is pulling down DeSantis or if DeSantis will pull down Trump - but they are both losing favor here in Florida.


(This is my opinion as a Floridian)

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
22. The worst insult I can think of
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:41 PM
May 2020

is to call DeSantis a dumb version of trump. He rivals the complete jackass on his northern border of Georgia.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
48. The idea that there could be...
Sun May 3, 2020, 11:17 AM
May 2020

...a dumb version of Trump is particularly disturbing.

Trump is Wiley and has street smarts when it comes to his own self-aggrandizement, but an intellectual he is not.

whopis01

(3,511 posts)
10. The other interesting thing about the graph is Biden wins if every "Barely Dem" state goes for Trump
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:00 PM
May 2020

It has the total listed as:
Biden 390
Trump 148

If Texas (38), Florida (29), Nevada (6), Colorado (9), Minnesota (10), Wisconsin (10), and Ohio (18) all go for Trump, the end result would be:
Biden 270
Trump 268


That is very encouraging. But with that said, now is not the time to get complacent.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
23. Scary thing is
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:48 PM
May 2020

Both Nebraska and Maine award 1 electoral vote to the winner in each Congressional district, which could result in a 269-269 tie. And a tie goes to House to settle, with a similar lame system as the electoral college in that each state's delegation votes on how to award that state's one vote. Currently that would mean the House would choose the repub.
To get even weirder, the Senate then votes to select the VP, which means the two could be from different parties.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
25. I meant that the map shows Colorado as barely blue
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:56 PM
May 2020

But the state is now pretty solidly blue and should be shown that way.

I should have been clearer.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
43. He is, the contemptible grinning buffoon
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:52 PM
May 2020

He won six years ago thanks to an unusual combination of circumstances and a slick campaign. This year, he's almost certain to lose by a wide margin.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
44. Maybe that is why...I have no idea...how they decide. I often think of Virginia...one years it was
Sun May 3, 2020, 12:29 AM
May 2020

red red..in terms of the president...there had been a couple of Democratic governors...and then boom...in 2008,it goes blue. I am hoping we see more of that this year...Carolina again, Texas, Arizona and maybe Georgia...we also get back Florida and Ohio...ah...a landslide to to toss the murderous orange asshat out.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
21. I really hope Texas goes blue
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:40 PM
May 2020

But I think we're a couple elections away from that. I believe it will happen within 12 years for sure though.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
26. Texas
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:12 PM
May 2020

is going to be a blue state at some point, it is inevitable. Virginia was reliably red not long ago as well. When you have that much growth and movement into the state an that much urbanization you can't stay solidly red.

This might be the cycle when it happens.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
34. COVID-45 is probably pushing the flip forward by about 10 years.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:20 PM
May 2020

It will be a swing state before it eventually goes solid Democratic. COVID-45’s unpopularity is accelerating the process.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
36. Yeah
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:02 PM
May 2020

There needs to be a catalyst to push it over. Trump could speed it up a couple cycles for sure.

I'd really love to see the reaction from Republicans if Texas flipped. They know there is no way they can ever win the Presidency if Texas goes blue. Clinton states + Texas is 270. Republicans would have to find a way to win some Clinton states without losing any others and that might be really hard for a while. If Texas flips you have to figure Arizona would as well.

Foolacious

(497 posts)
27. Where does the data underlying the map come from?
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:31 PM
May 2020

It shows Nevada and Colorado as barely blue, with Arizona and North Carolina as likely blue. That seems reversed to me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,141 posts)
28. Tech burbs going non-Fundie with immigrants
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:48 PM
May 2020

MAGAts dropping like ... well ... like MAGAts

The margins to a slim Blue victory are in these demographics

 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
29. This is great news
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:51 PM
May 2020

but make no mistake, if this is true, the TX repukes are going to ramp up every devious means to suppress the vote this year. So right now is the time to start protecting the vote, people need to confirm their voter status, register to vote absentee if possible and stay on top of every election shenanigan that is about to hit.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
32. Yes! I'm greedy, I want the SENATE to go blue too!
Sat May 2, 2020, 05:43 PM
May 2020

I want everything blue - and there will be no turning back after November.
All the guilty members of GOP will go to jail as soon as possible.



Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
33. If Texas goes blue...
Sat May 2, 2020, 06:21 PM
May 2020

...then there will be a lot of retirement resignations, declines in running again, etc. from the Republicans. The gig is over.

The question then becomes, who takes over? Do they continue with the current ideological nonsense that doesn't get them anywhere, or do they moderate their stances.

I'm still in shock of my state senator sending me resources in case I become unemployed, holding COVID virtual town halls with doctors, info on where to get tested if you think you might have the virus, resources for food, etc. You would automatically think he's a Democrat, but he's Republican. But then again, there hasn't been any serious Democratic challenger. How can you challenge a Republican when they act like Democrats?

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
41. I don't believe it
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:19 PM
May 2020

Democrats have always come over 1 million votes short in Texas. The only way it happens is mass abandonment of Trump. People might feel like they need to get out of this situation. Then maybe, but it's a longshot.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
42. Many of the polls are rather old
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:39 PM
May 2020

It would be interesting to see what they show now

Perhaps Joe should say something like, "We really need the Texas perspective in the cabinet, and I am looking to include the very best that Texas has to offer"

And for Georgia, "Paging Ms Abrams, Paging Ms Abrams, Your assistance urgently appreciated."

dsp3000

(483 posts)
45. I remember this talk in 2016. Hillary was even campaigning there.
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:46 AM
May 2020

Look what happened. Not optimistic about it at all. She should have campaigned more in pa and Michigan

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
47. Do we have the DNC's attention now
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:56 AM
May 2020

Cuz for the 30 yrs I’ve lived in TX they have used us as a cash cow to help fund their coffers *for swing state* battles.
Dem candidates fly into (insert any TX metro city here), head straight to a rich donor’s mansion for a 2 hour private fundraiser...and then they are wheels up, leaving TX.
Get out your damn checkbook, DNC, just hand a signed/blank check to whoever is in charge of the TX campaigning/media buys/***rallies***. You know...rallies that Texans only get to see on TV unless we wanna drive to the nearest swing state to attend.

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