Obama soars in Ohio/Florida Virginia brand new NBC/Marist polls

[graham4anything]

Just announced on tv

Ohio plus 7
Virginia plus 5
Florida plus 5

too new to have an article, saw it on tv

[louis c]

1. Rev. Al's Show (Politics Nation)

I saw it too.

[montanacowboy]

2. Crush that SOB Rmoney

let there be no doubt on election day

[ProSense]

3. NBC/WSJ/Marist: Obama 50, Romney 43, (OH), Obama 49, Romney 44, (FL), Obama 49, Romney 44 (VA)

NBC/WSJ/Marist: Obama 50, Romney 43, (OH), Obama 49, Romney 44, (FL), Obama 49, Romney 44 (VA)

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/13/13848313-polls-obama-holds-the-edge-in-florida-ohio-and-virginia

Breaking: President Obama leads Mitt Romney in Ohio, Florida, and Virginia OUTSIDE the margin of error, and at virtually 50 percent in all three states.

- more -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/13/1131507/-NBC-WSJ-Marist-Obama-50-Romney-43-OH-Obama-49-Romney-44-FL-Obama-Romney-VA

[NotThisTime]

18. Is this among likely voters?

[krawhitham]

22. Ohio: Likely 50-43 Registered 50-41

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/ohio_poll_september.pdf

[NotThisTime]

28. Nice, now we know why he pulled his ads, or has he put them back up?

[RagAss]

4. Kicking in balls and taking fucking names !!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Countdown_3_2_1]

5. Nice to know, but polls mean nothing

before the debates.

[speedoo]

6. What do you expect from Romney in the debates?

Serious question.

[hue]

16. lies and distorted facts TBH

[DonRedwood]

26. distorting is too hard...he'll just lie

[demosincebirth]

7. If you think the debates will make a difference, George W. Bush should have lost in '04. Just tellin

what some repbulican pundits said about Bush after the debates.

[ladjf]

8. Gore, who was supposed to be an expert debater, froze up.

[stevenleser]

9. 2004 was Kerry. Nt

[ladjf]

39. I was referring to the 2000 election debates, of course. nt

[Art_from_Ark]

19. He didn't freeze up

He just didn't know how to respond to such a dimwitted opponent.

[ladjf]

41. Call it what you want. I thought he did a terrible job on the debates. (And I was a big Gore fan.)

[Art_from_Ark]

43. I didn't watch the debates, I heard them on the radio

And I don't think Gore did such a lousy job. But his dimwitted opponent was just pulling stuff out of his rear end and passing it off as fact. It was like a collegiate debater trying to argue with an elementary schooler, but the elementary schooler was always insisting he was right. It is really hard to have a debate when one opponent is so astoundingly ill-informed.

[ladjf]

44. The debate that comes to my mind, both candidates were asked questions by people from the

audience. Bush consistently addressed the questions that were asked. Gore, on the other hand, mostly ignored the questions and restated over and over his position on Social Security.
It was as though he hadn't heard their question.

Bush is certainly no intellectual. However, he has a considerable talent for saying a lot of cute, country witticisms that the right wingers just love. The debates were not real debates. They were contests to show who was the more entertaining. Gore wasn't good at that.

But, Gore won the election, only to have it taken away by the crooks, especially the SC.

[dsc]

35. no he didn't

the people thought he won all three, the pundits who hated his guts lied through their teeth.

[ladjf]

42. OK. I should have said that in my opinion , he froze up. We still have rights to opinions on

on this board don't we.

[INdemo]

27. Was just thinking about that

actually Bush did lose..119,000 missing votes =Diebold and Sec of State Blackwell
Kerry won and in time research will show Kerry won..
If the truth was know Bush never won an election in his life.
Even the governorship of Texas win =Karl Rove...
Back to 2012 we cant get over confident and think we have it in the bag because of the same reasons as 2004..electronic voting and this year voter ID scheme.

[grantcart]

10. Really? What do you think is going to happen to Romney's fund raising efforts?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. do you think he will borrow money from himself? There's still that weird story out there

where someone donated to a pac and then disbanded the pac the day after

[grantcart]

24. The story is that the one condition that Ann had for running this time was no more personal money.

He put in about $ 50 million last time, so far not a dime.

[Indpndnt]

30. Yeah, but does Ann know about every Cayman account?

I doubt it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. wow....that shows she's greedy too. I bet he will somehow. It will look really bad if his

head-to-head numbers look pitiful. O beat him in Aug. For SURE Sept will be worse. After all, we chipped in $13k hahah

[otohara]

12. Debates should open wider lead

For POTUS!

[qazplm]

14. eh they mean a little

this close to the debate they set the parameters, they set the floor, the status quo.

The debates then either change that status quo or reinforce it. So, going into the debates Obama is clearly ahead and in a stronger position and Romney is going to have to improvise and take more chances and we all know that isn't something he does well at.

[DCBob]

29. They mean something..

Romney needs a miracle to win.

[RoccoR5955]

31. I expect the Romulan to walk off in a hissy fit! n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. hissy-fit. perfect description. I want the obama team to analyze past video for

when Romney acts anal and goes into a hissy fit. Maybe they can figure out what
makes it happen and recreate during debate.

this man is a sick anal retentive and I want EVERYONE to see it.

[zbdent]

11. coattails, please, COATTAILS!!!

AND PLEASE let the American people pay attention to what really has been going on the past few years.

[progressoid]

45. Exactly. We need help in the Senate and House. n/t

[Brother Buzz]

13. 'Snot enough

I need to see double digits

[hue]

15. We are def not out of the woods yet!! We must keep going!!

[NRaleighLiberal]

17. Obama soars....RMoney hazza sores!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. were these before MittWitt's foreign policy meltdown?

[Faygo Kid]

23. He's withdrawing to his base. Reality doesn't suit them.

All you have to do is read the jaw-dropping alternate reality of Jennifer Rubin at The Washington Post to know he's losing. That and listen to the screams against the "mainstream media." It's not over yet, but this country is not liking the Mittster.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

25. From my assessment deep in the heart of Republican Orange County . . .

Serious women in the GOP are pissed off with their party and trying to find a way to remedy it. I've become involved in a bi-partisan fight in Orange County and have allied myself with Republicans to stop a power grab to get no bid contracts and reject a charter that would give our city council unprecedented power.

Bi-partisanship is possible. It's happening here. And from what I've been told, Arizona's radicals are made up of former residents of Orange County, CA.

[INdemo]

32. Here is a link and

what I noticed was a very significant number of sampling(1000-1300) and a lower margin of error.
And most voters in this survey had made their choice,and were not likely to change their mind....very few undecided..

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/13/13848313-polls-obama-holds-the-edge-in-florida-ohio-and-virginia?lite

[David Zephyr]

34. I hope you are right, graham4anything.

Thanks for the very, very good news.

[KauaiK]

37. Its who COUNTS the votes - not the polls.

I hate to rain on the parade, but the polls don't win an election, It's WHO COUNTS the votes. I do not underestimate the Rove, Koch state officials from Florida, Pennsylvania, & Florida etc and the unverifiable software in voting machines. They can still steal the election and give it Romney. To me, Romney seems smug - likes its in the bag...no worries.

[graham4anything]

52. Rove works for Bush, Bush isn't running in 2012 therefore

Rove and the Bush's need Romney to lose in 2012 so Jeb can attempt to win the general of 2016.With the recent repub primary changes all favoring Jeb more than any other new candidate, if anything is fixed its that Rove is not on Romney's side. And the benefactor of the 2000 shenanigans was Bush and only Bush.

Herr Mittens is always smug, he was botoxed with that smug look on his face, after all, what does he care, day after election he is still a billionaire and they say he was offered a job that pays 300million after 2008, sure that job still awaits him.

Remember something else President Obama is not some naive hick, he knows the tricks and the people behind him know.
Bob Shrum and the others that worked for Kerry and Gore do not work for Obama(for good reason).

And remember too, the few percent that may be offset will themselves be offset by ultra conservative libertarian Gary Johnson being on the ballot in 47 states, and Virginia having Goode on the ballot.
What Ralph Nader did in 2000 to the Dems (cause directly the Gore lose), Johnson can do this time to Mittens.

Nader made it close enough to doubt. I 100% blame Nader more than anything else, because Gore would have won NH and those 4 votes would have done it without Florida.

BTW, Obama doesn't even need to win Florida or Ohio but Romney needs both and still comes up way short.

And Obama is not Jimmy Carter either. And had Al Gore used Bill Clinton, hemight have won Arkansas and the very conservative turned Tennessee.

[Jester Messiah]

38. Really glad to see Virginia in the blue.

Gives me a tiny bit of hope for my state.

[sarcasmo]

40. Ohio and Florida wins seal the election.

[ohheckyeah]

46. OMG...

I thought you were making a joke and that it said NBC/Marxist polls

This is great news. We still have a lot of work to do in Virginia.

[reformist2]

47. It's kind of amazing how they're fighting over only 6-7% of the voters in only 6-7 states.

When you do the math, it's less than 1% of the population!

[Blue_In_AK]

48. They don't even do presidential polls in Alaska.

Who cares about our three little electoral votes? And besides the elections are already decided by the time our polls close.

[lonestarnot]

49. K & R!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. Typo? Would that be Marxist polls? (runs while donning asbestos suit) :)

[veganlush]

51. but polls

Don't reflect suppression.

[cali]

53. You can add new polls in MI and MN that have him up in double digits