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Sat May 2, 2020, 03:40 PM

So, MENSA has setup a protest in KY




An hour before the protest against Gov. Beshear’s COVID-19 orders are set to begin, a few dozen people, a bluegrass band and a conferserate flag have gathered.


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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:44 PM

1. I was a Mensa member for one year...

... and quit paying the annual dues after a few local meetings.

I thought this thread might’ve been serious because there’s some political-crazies among Mensa members too, like Ayn Rand types.

In my personal experience, the worst Mensa members were the ones who qualified based on testing of their verbal skills (not the logic and pattern-based tests).

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:49 PM

2. Your Post Reads Like I Wrote It

My experience is as close to exactly like yours, as is reasonably possible.
The few get togethers I went to, always had a couple who in later years I would have described as a Ted Kaczynski!
I ran into some that had a fast mind, but didn't seem to have deep understanding of any particular subject. 20 feet of depth but in the middle of the Pacific.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:56 PM

6. I had recently graduated from high school...

... and hoped to LEARN from the supposed “top”.

It quickly became clear that most of them didn’t have much to offer in that way.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:50 PM

3. Nope. I was just being sarcastic

Took a cue from our wondrous and sarcastic president.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:15 PM

7. I thought maybe MENSA folks has set up a counter-protest to the protests!

You know, something some smart folk might do.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #7)

Sat May 2, 2020, 06:57 PM

12. That was what I thought, as wel.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:52 PM

4. Do not group us all in that way. Most Mensans I know are quite different!

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Response to overleft (Reply #4)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:54 PM

5. Please, I'm a Mensan and wouldn't do anything that stupid

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 06:54 PM

10. I had a friend who wanted to get into mensa

He took the test did really well.
He said he wanted me to join too.
After the test when he was so tired he was falling asleep on the couch
I fixed one problem for him. Later I asked him if he knew the answer and he did. It was one of those sloppy mistakes made when it got late.
Anyways he got in.
After he told me how fucked up some Mensa members are I decided to not join myself.
The Ayn Randians and the ones that think ogliarchy is good would have pissed me off to no end.
Anyway so much comes down to
Are you a person who sees the good in people and want to help humanity or are you a narcissist projecting your own undesirable traits on humanity following hack "philosophies" like Ayn Rand or Leo Strauss to rationalise your damn pathology?
Some people are assholes first intelligence gets subordinated to assholiness or paranoia with some people especially rich people.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 06:56 PM

11. Sorry you and Prof GAC had a negative experience. Mine has been quite different over 56 years...

But then, our local group is quite mellow.

Yes, I met a few Libertarians, and yes, they were *holes, but that's what Libertarians are. Didn't stay long. Yes, I met a few lechers -- I was young once -- but we ladies mostly laughed them off. Met a guy who told me he was sure that Clinton was coming for his guns, so he had buried them 6 feet deep in his backyard, to which I sincerely replied that it was an excellent place for them.

Met plenty of people who were "different" -- a fair number of obsessives who found a niche in the computer world. Lucky for me, though, the first generation came out of other disciplines like languages, philosophy, and music. Many many good conversations were available.

On the whole, I found my group to be very tolerant of those few people who look at the world so differently they can't really find a social niche. In later years, "on the spectrum" became a thing, and I could look back and spot which guys fit the description.

Lifelong friendships were formed, lovers found each other, some marriages (like mine) occurred.

The original people are old -- it's going to be up to someone younger to revitalize this group. But it's been a good run. I count myself very lucky.


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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 07:26 PM

13. Your last sentence: how would you know?

My whole life I always tested high in both verbal and math/logic areas. I just had no interest in math and got over the required classes as soon as possible and never looked back.

At one point I was an admin asst to a Statistics & Applied Probability professor, and well remember the time a group of his graduate assistants were chatting in my office about the "low" math scores of the students they had to teach. I wanted to rise from my desk and inform them that I had seen THEIR Graduate Record Exam scores and had been shocked at how low their verbal scores were. Little snots.

Everyone has both talents and interests. Everyone is different that way.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #13)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

15. During the local meetings, other members...

... would often ask how I scored on the tests.

This was over 30 years ago, so I don’t recall all the details.

It all started when I looked through a local newspaper, noticing that a local Mensa chapter would proctor IQ tests at a nearby library on a particular Saturday. I was a decent student in school, but I was never IQ-tested and was curious how I’d do.

There was only one other guy who showed up to be tested, with an annoyed expression on his face, and he told me before the exams that he was required to be tested as a potential police officer. (I never heard of such a requirement for police officers around here, but I assumed that he was honest.)

The proctor was an old, bearded guy wearing coveralls. The front was partially unzipped below his chest, exposing gray chest hair and no shirt. Coincidentally, after the testing was done, he said that our local chapter of Mensa had one of the biggest “Nudist” SIGs (special interest groups) in the country. Lol.

We took two different tests.

I was pretty annoyed by one of them, called Cattell B, because it seemed to mostly test verbal ability. I’d always heard that IQ tests shouldn’t be based on a person’s education, but that particular test seemed to contradict those rumors. I’d never even seen some of the words, so how could I know their meaning?

The other one was called the California Test of Mental Maturity, I think. I could tell that I was answering nearly every question correctly, so it was more fun. Lol! It also didn’t seem to rely so much on a person’s education to perform well.

After a few weeks, the results were mailed to me and I was offered membership into Mensa.

I only scored in the top 7% on the “verbal” exam, but scored in the top 1% on the California test with a score of 148.

I paid the dues and later received some newsletters from the local chapter (and also the national magazine). Some of the local meetings seemed like they could be fun, especially if “BYOB” was listed, so I tried them.

Looking like a 14-year-old back then, the much older hosts and other guests seemed to always express concern about me bringing and drinking some beer. (18 was the legal age back then.)

Anyway, I never really felt comfortable at the meetings because I seemed to be treated like a curious misfit. It was during those interactions, when another guest would look at me quizzically, that he/she would ask how I qualified. Then they’d tell me how they qualified. It was from those conversations that I seemed to recognize a pattern — the high verbal scorers tended to be blow-hards who liked to talk about themselves using impressive oratory skills.

Maybe it would’ve worked out better if I’d been older when I joined?

I never tried the Nudist SIG. Lol.

Edit:
I brought a pizza and 6-pack of beer to the last meeting that I attended, and the guy that answered the door shouted back to the crowd that the pizza delivery kid had already arrived. Lol. He asked about the other pizzas, and that’s when I explained that I was a guest Mensa member. He apologized and let me inside.
I encountered another boring “Charles Winchester III” type of guest for awhile, then snuck out.
In the next newsletter, there was an apology to the young guest who was mistaken as a pizza delivery person, implying that’s why I left so early. (Nope.)

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #15)

Sun May 3, 2020, 01:45 AM

16. Crap, Buckeye, you hit the jackpot. I'd've walked away too.

I was a curious high schooler but never got to a single meeting. Tried a bit in college, but quit because college was way interesting and kept me busy. I didn't rejoin until after my divorce when I was 32 -- I was in a new state and a new town and really needed a way to meet people.

Like I said, I just lucked out. Wish it could be that way for everbody.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 06:04 PM

8. I read thread title and thought they were protesting KY's stupid electing of McConnell !!! lll

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 06:27 PM

9. That would be DENSA

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:20 PM

14. Oh....not really MENSA

I was expecting people with thick glasses and pocket protectors carrying "defaced" chess boards with smart quotes.

/Disappointed

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