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Baitball Blogger

(46,753 posts)
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:05 PM May 2020

I just realized that with these poorly thought out openings, we are going to cross Trump's

Rubicon number of 100,000 well before November. He really is incredibly stupid, isn't he? All that film we have on him patting himself on his back if he can keep the number down to 100,000. But, unless we find an incredible silver bullet for treatment, we're going to pass that number and all we have to do is make a list.

Trump talks, but he doesn't take anything serious. He just thinks it's all going to go away, or he'll blame someone else. Not this time. We all have to remind him that he owns those numbers.

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I just realized that with these poorly thought out openings, we are going to cross Trump's (Original Post) Baitball Blogger May 2020 OP
He intends to kill the elderly, disabled, and minorities. CaptYossarian May 2020 #1
He's betting on a raging second wave in November. C_U_L8R May 2020 #2
You nailed it! BigmanPigman May 2020 #3
indeed, chaos and unusual circumstances provide great cover for cheating. unblock May 2020 #5
I think he's also hoarding PPE for right before the election. intheflow May 2020 #7
Yes, likely hoarding PPE and will bust it out Vdizzle May 2020 #19
+1, people here are swearing up and down Trump can't effect the election towards him uponit7771 May 2020 #28
That Would Require A Plan ProfessorGAC May 2020 #34
at the current rate, we'll break 100,000 easily within two weeks. unblock May 2020 #4
Or by the end of May at the very latest. milestogo May 2020 #6
considering what a clustertr*mp governance is these days, we're lucky that april is steady unblock May 2020 #8
He relinguished his right to lead. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #10
+1 nitpicker May 2020 #36
But now there are Governors (Florida, maybe others) who Sogo May 2020 #9
We're getting numbers, somehow. From the Dashboard. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #11
Another point that I want to make. Blue_true May 2020 #15
I had to revise my numbers. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #17
If he tries to hide the number of people dying and the dying Blue_true May 2020 #18
Also MoonlitKnight May 2020 #23
I honestly don't know. But you raised an interesting question. nt Blue_true May 2020 #24
Oh no !!! ... jus dam uponit7771 May 2020 #29
No evidence of that. Voltaire2 May 2020 #33
My guess is we hit 100,000 by the end of June. nt Blue_true May 2020 #12
2900 dead in USA today. By my math 100K before June 1 JCMach1 May 2020 #31
You could be right. Blue_true May 2020 #39
Current pace, we hit 90,000 by the first week or two of June. sarcasmo May 2020 #13
It's not just him misanthrope May 2020 #14
Some of those people are going to kill themselves or family members Blue_true May 2020 #16
We'll pass it by the end of May-- dawg day May 2020 #20
Yeah, a lot of otherwise sensible people are acting like this thing is receding in... LudwigPastorius May 2020 #21
People have totally miscalculated how effective control procedures have been. Blue_true May 2020 #25
Heck, we're going to hit 100,000 by July 4th AnnieBW May 2020 #22
Yep, if we keep our current pace, 100,000 by the 4th. sarcasmo May 2020 #32
I have a lot of sickly relatives and friends with health problems. I have some problems of my own to dustyscamp May 2020 #26
he and/or his boss(es) wants the death toll to shoot up super high 0rganism May 2020 #27
Total Will Be 100K By Memorial Day - Take It To The Bank sfstaxprep May 2020 #30
Sadly, You May Be Correct ProfessorGAC May 2020 #35
The discrediting campaigb SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #37
And to think, this kind of logic drives business. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #38

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
1. He intends to kill the elderly, disabled, and minorities.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:12 PM
May 2020

Not in any order.

Where will he hang his Mission Accomplished banner?

C_U_L8R

(45,014 posts)
2. He's betting on a raging second wave in November.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:12 PM
May 2020

In fact, he's doing all he can to ensure there's a devastating second wave, widespread death and, of course, low voter turnout.

intheflow

(28,494 posts)
7. I think he's also hoarding PPE for right before the election.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:22 PM
May 2020

So he can pass then out like candy at his rallies.

Vdizzle

(383 posts)
19. Yes, likely hoarding PPE and will bust it out
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:09 PM
May 2020

right in time to declare martial law, suspend the election, so he can roll out the supplies to needy states. And this retaining power and staying out of jail.

unblock

(52,285 posts)
4. at the current rate, we'll break 100,000 easily within two weeks.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:16 PM
May 2020

of course, these are only the official numbers. if we counted everyone who died at home from covid-19 without having been tested, we almost surely have had over 100,000 deaths already.

of course, donnie keeps moving the goalposts.


we won't know except in retrospect, but i strongly believe at this point that historians will estimate the total death toll when all is said and done as worse than the 1918 pandemic which is estimated to have taken 600,000 american lives.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
6. Or by the end of May at the very latest.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:17 PM
May 2020

I don't think there is anything that can be done to stop it. Too many non-compliant people and states.

unblock

(52,285 posts)
8. considering what a clustertr*mp governance is these days, we're lucky that april is steady
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:24 PM
May 2020

but about 2,000 daily deaths with no reason to think that rate will go down in may even if red states didn't take those backwards steps....

Baitball Blogger

(46,753 posts)
10. He relinguished his right to lead.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:31 PM
May 2020

He relegated to the governors.

Yet, he SAID that if he could keep the numbers to 100,000 it was a success.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
36. +1
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:15 AM
May 2020

JHU has been reporting on average roughly 2K US cases a day for the last two weeks.

They reported 66K total deaths yesterday afternoon.

That means the projected date of 100K total deaths is 19 May.

Even if deaths fell this moment to 1500 a day, 99K cumulative deaths would be reached 24 May.

Sogo

(4,990 posts)
9. But now there are Governors (Florida, maybe others) who
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:24 PM
May 2020

have suspended the coronavirus count in their states.

Baitball Blogger

(46,753 posts)
11. We're getting numbers, somehow. From the Dashboard.
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:34 PM
May 2020

Last edited Sat May 2, 2020, 10:06 PM - Edit history (1)

We have to add them up ourselves, but in Seminole county the numbers are going up. Increase of 6 on Thursday, 13 on Friday, and 16 today. We're up to 395, residents + non residents.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Another point that I want to make.
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:00 PM
May 2020

There is enough public information about covid19 symptoms now and what is seen when people are dying or have died from it, so people like DeSantis can try to coverup facts all they want, that just blows up in their faces.

Baitball Blogger

(46,753 posts)
17. I had to revise my numbers.
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:04 PM
May 2020

The actual number is much higher than I realized. Now I know why he's trying to fudge the numbers. This is going to turn into a scandal.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. If he tries to hide the number of people dying and the dying
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:27 PM
May 2020

happens at a high rate, he just might as well not run for reelection in 2022, nothing will save him.

Florida is a state where a massive number of people use their personal vehicles to get around. Seldon do I ever seen more than two people in a vehicle while out. Florida doesn't have massive mass transit systems like NYC, Boston, Chicago, the Bay Area. There is some developing mass transit in the Orlando area, but that is in it's infancy when compared to other places. I believe that Florida not having a large amount of mass transit and city streets that have dense numbers of people on sidewalks at the same time is the factor that has kept it's covid19 infection numbers down, the same goes for a state like Georgia, Texas and areas like most of Southern California. But a big wildcard is entering the equation and I believe that is going to cause infection numbers in places like Florida, Georgia, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Lousiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, ect to skyrocket. That wildcard is summer air conditioning. Places like Florida, Georgia, Texas don't use a lot of central heat during the winter, but use a lot of AC once Summer hits. AC provides an ideal environment for covid19. The Summer will bring widespread use of AC in offices, stores, all places where many people gather, in my view, if all people don't wear masks when in public, the probability of infection goes way up.

Voltaire2

(13,109 posts)
33. No evidence of that.
Sun May 3, 2020, 07:48 AM
May 2020

The virus is a respiratory infection, insects are not carriers, and there is no evidence of blood transmission.

JCMach1

(27,566 posts)
31. 2900 dead in USA today. By my math 100K before June 1
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:23 AM
May 2020

If have a second spike in new areas by May 15

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. You could be right.
Sun May 3, 2020, 12:23 PM
May 2020

With southern states rushing to open up, and weirdly, getting hotter, there is likely going to be a massive increase in infections, IMO.

misanthrope

(7,420 posts)
14. It's not just him
Sat May 2, 2020, 09:57 PM
May 2020

There are millions of red state Americans rip-roaring to aid him in that pursuit. I'm surrounded by them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. Some of those people are going to kill themselves or family members
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:03 PM
May 2020

because they stupidly exposed themselves to a virus that looks like none others in history. What we should do is work to make it less likely that they kill us or loved ones.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
20. We'll pass it by the end of May--
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:15 PM
May 2020

2000 deaths a day-- we've been averaging that, with new cases of 28K or so (and some of those will die in May).

So we'll probably be at 120K by Memorial Day.

He's already bragging that it should have been a million, so he won!

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
21. Yeah, a lot of otherwise sensible people are acting like this thing is receding in...
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:40 PM
May 2020

the rearview mirror.

I just got a birthday party invite from friends for late June. They've asked about 30 people over to their house.

I didn't have the heart to tell them that I thought we'd be back in lockdown by then, with total death numbers around 85 to 90 thousand.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. People have totally miscalculated how effective control procedures have been.
Sun May 3, 2020, 12:14 AM
May 2020

They don't see the numbers dying that were first predicted, so they think that control procedures have been overdone (a claim frequently heard from the idiot "reopen" protesters).

I tend to agree that we are headed for a second, likely more draconian lockdown. Trump has not shown that he is capable of learning and leading like Merkel, the President of South Korea and Hong Kong, the Prime Minister of New Zealand, he is going to walk this country into a big disaster, all due to his extreme ignorance and arrogance.

AnnieBW

(10,449 posts)
22. Heck, we're going to hit 100,000 by July 4th
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:53 PM
May 2020

At the rate that we're going. Happy fucking birthday, America.

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
26. I have a lot of sickly relatives and friends with health problems. I have some problems of my own to
Sun May 3, 2020, 12:23 AM
May 2020

I don't want to lose anyone to this disease or whatever terrible thing that happens next because of the Trump administrations incompetence and cruelty. I hate that I'm just another rider in this rollercoaster of terror. So this year I'll try my best to make every holiday, every birthday, every moment special and worth everyone I knows while.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
30. Total Will Be 100K By Memorial Day - Take It To The Bank
Sun May 3, 2020, 12:56 AM
May 2020

I'm not sure why people here are saying it will take until the end of June, or July, it's going to be to 100K in 3 weeks.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
35. Sadly, You May Be Correct
Sun May 3, 2020, 08:03 AM
May 2020

23 days to Memorial Day.
1,500 per day is 34,500. That puts us at >100k.
Assuming linear decline, we'd have to be pushing zero deaths per day, since we're almost 3k per day now.
Unless a giant number of people, untested, have been infected and aren't getting sick, I don't see how it would be much less that 100,000 last week of May.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
37. The discrediting campaigb
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:19 AM
May 2020

The discrediting campaign is what they are using now. The new talking point is that doctors are calling every death a covid death to get extra funding. The Gymnastics these people go to in order to rationalize their leader is insane.

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