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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:21 AM

kentuck (100,900 posts)

Does Trump want to open the economy or does he want to keep it closed?

Does anyone know for sure? Do we have to wait to see which way the wind blows?

He said nothing about the armed rebellion entering the legislative building with automatic weapons, locked and loaded, as the Michigan legislature chose to wear bullet-proof Kevlar for protection. Something is not right with that picture.

Although he was the one that declared coronavirus a national emergency, he now seems to want to support those marching to open the government? It is difficult to interpret.

There is not enough leadership from this White House to even analyze. It is below zero.

As usual, we are faced with two choices, from two different directions? Either have an election or have an armed rebellion? Is that what the people in Michigan are saying?

We simply have no leadership in this time of crisis.

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Does Trump want to open the economy or does he want to keep it closed? (Original post)	kentuck	May 2020	OP
He wants to give employers the right to force everyone back to work	RandySF	May 2020	#1
Yep.	kentuck	May 2020	#2
In Canada, workers have right to refuse work if they believe conditions unsafe & keep unemployment	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2020	#9
The POS is calculating which position is more likely to get him re-elected.	sop	May 2020	#3
"Calculating" is a good word.	kentuck	May 2020	#5
I do not think that he calculates much	Chainfire	May 2020	#8
That's an argument.	kentuck	May 2020	#10
I considered used another verb, perhaps "worrying," "obsessing" or even "shitting" his pants.	sop	May 2020	#11
He divides then picks a side	Captain Zero	May 2020	#12
He wants people back to work during an active pandemic	duforsure	May 2020	#4
Wait until the armed rebellion storms the White House.	Jamastiene	May 2020	#6
He only wants someone to blame	randr	May 2020	#7
he wants to own all the money and golf..	samnsara	May 2020	#13
Here is a thought	Chainfire	May 2020	#14
Trump is looking to do whatever makes him a hero	DFW	May 2020	#15
He wants to keep people fighting about it...nt	Wounded Bear	May 2020	#16
He is trying to figure a way to have it both ways.	Grammy23	May 2020	#17
He just wants everyone to genuflect and tell him how brilliant he is,	tanyev	May 2020	#18
He wants to take credit for any success, but still be able	Luz	May 2020	#19
He said that Michigan's Governor should negotiate with the armed son of a guns	MiniMe	May 2020	#20

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:28 AM

RandySF (36,395 posts)

1. He wants to give employers the right to force everyone back to work

and choose between infection or starvation.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:30 AM

kentuck (100,900 posts)

2. Yep.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 07:00 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (37,152 posts)

9. In Canada, workers have right to refuse work if they believe conditions unsafe & keep unemployment

... and keep unemployment benefits.

Plus people out of work are getting $2,000 per month for four months.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:31 AM

sop (4,203 posts)

3. The POS is calculating which position is more likely to get him re-elected.

Trump: "If I don't reopen the country, I won't be able to campaign on my big, beautiful economy. But if I do reopen it, and thousands more die, I'll lose for sure."

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Sun May 3, 2020, 06:12 AM

kentuck (100,900 posts)

5. "Calculating" is a good word.

It fits him.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 06:49 AM

Chainfire (5,209 posts)

8. I do not think that he calculates much

He just bounces from reaction to another like a Mexican jumping bean. (my apologies to the jumping beans) He would be inconsistent if he wasn't inconsistent.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 07:01 AM

kentuck (100,900 posts)

10. That's an argument.

I think he is very calculating when he is trying to get out of these self-inflicted jams...

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Sun May 3, 2020, 07:04 AM

sop (4,203 posts)

11. I considered used another verb, perhaps "worrying," "obsessing" or even "shitting" his pants.

I agree, reading "calculating" and "Trump" in the same sentence just seems wrong somehow.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 07:43 AM

Captain Zero (2,870 posts)

12. He divides then picks a side

Usually the ugly side.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:40 AM

duforsure (10,924 posts)

4. He wants people back to work during an active pandemic

Without protective masks or adequate testing for personal political reasons, not for the welfare and health of the American people. He knows how badly he's failed and continues to fail , and ignores health professionals by allowing this to happen now. When this fails he will deny playing any part of this happening, when again he was the cause all along behind it. Trumps supporters are running from him now, and he knows it. Wait for his trying to prevent more direct stimulus money going to the people soon, then even more will turn on him and the GOP.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 06:18 AM

Jamastiene (38,088 posts)

6. Wait until the armed rebellion storms the White House.

Then, he will reopen the economy and say he wanted to all along but those meanie Democratic governors wouldn't let him.

He'll make up something. That is for sure.

He has licked his finger, stuck it up in the air and cannot seem to figure out what will get him the most new worshipers. He cannot decide what he really thinks. So he keeps suggesting people do crazy things to themselves. He's not right in the head. He cannot form a thought beyond how great he thinks he is.

He wants people to worship him. He is seeing that is not going to happen. That depresses him, so he dopes up with crack/coke/whatever it is he does and runs his mouth some more.

The truth is, he does not know what he wants, other than people worshiping him all the time.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 06:34 AM

randr (11,135 posts)

7. He only wants someone to blame

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Sun May 3, 2020, 07:49 AM

samnsara (14,244 posts)

13. he wants to own all the money and golf..

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Sun May 3, 2020, 09:56 AM

Chainfire (5,209 posts)

14. Here is a thought

Perhaps he really wants to open the economy, but a later in the year so there may be an internal struggle between the CIC and his handlers. He would like to go into October with a great economic rebound. July, August or September may bee to early for him.

"All in good time, my pretty."

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Sun May 3, 2020, 09:59 AM

DFW (41,729 posts)

15. Trump is looking to do whatever makes him a hero

And in the eyes of enough people to fill more than a phone booth with cheering admirers.

I get the impression that his people are finding this to be somewhat of a challenge these days.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 10:01 AM

Wounded Bear (43,125 posts)

16. He wants to keep people fighting about it...nt

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Sun May 3, 2020, 10:12 AM

Grammy23 (5,464 posts)

17. He is trying to figure a way to have it both ways.

He sprinkles words like perhaps, maybe, possibly throughout his babbling. That way he can lay claim to whichever side wins out. He does it all the time, always trying to leave himself some wiggle room. Or as I like to say, weasel room. He is a master at it. Listen to him some time. He always leaves room to say, “see, I was right.”

By the way, being a master at this does not make him a hero or to be admired. If anything, it is one more reason to despise him. He never forcefully endorses anything. He almost always leaves an exit strategy no matter how he appears to be endorsing a position or policy. Weasel words are his stock and trade.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 10:13 AM

tanyev (33,743 posts)

18. He just wants everyone to genuflect and tell him how brilliant he is,

even if he says two opposing things in the same minute.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 11:00 AM

Luz (708 posts)

19. He wants to take credit for any success, but still be able

to blame governors for any failure. Same thing he always wants.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 08:46 PM

MiniMe (19,441 posts)

20. He said that Michigan's Governor should negotiate with the armed son of a guns

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