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Original allegation: It happened at 2008 dinner - proven false. New allegation: It was 2007 dinner (Original Post) Skya Rhen May 2020 OP
JHC, Christine O'Donnell Give it the **** UP. Cha May 2020 #1
next she's going to say BGBD May 2020 #10
Again Christine O'Donnell steps in a big pile of shite of her own making.. Cha May 2020 #20
Can you say "witch" hunt? alp227 May 2020 #13
Christine O'Donnell should be ashamed of herself.. Cha May 2020 #22
Her story clearly ciaims she was 14 at the time. IllinoisBirdWatcher May 2020 #28
Could someone please explain this? jpak May 2020 #2
Original story - Biden at 2008 dinner exboyfil May 2020 #11
Thank you! jpak May 2020 #24
Is it just me or 2naSalit May 2020 #3
All rightly then. LisaL May 2020 #4
Ok, we have the whens Chainfire May 2020 #5
It was 2006 Renew Deal May 2020 #6
Pretty soon she will be in diapers exboyfil May 2020 #12
The niece was still 14 though Hav May 2020 #14
No Wait,... ProfessorGAC May 2020 #29
OK, who's running this "smear campaign?" MyOwnPeace May 2020 #7
It happened long ago, in a galaxy far, far away. Newest Reality May 2020 #8
What dinner? Do dinners happen just once a year? gristy May 2020 #9
Yesterday BGBD May 2020 #17
Halper and Grim are the new Wohl and Burkman Roland99 May 2020 #18
Yeah BGBD May 2020 #23
Best To Get The Names Right, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #33
All true BGBD May 2020 #35
I Have Made The Analogy Numerous Times Myself Here, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #36
I thought it was the Gridiron dinner. dawg day May 2020 #40
No, wait, it was 2009! Goodheart May 2020 #15
Christine O'Donnell, dumb as dirt Walleye May 2020 #16
Does the witch need a new meal ticket... Historic NY May 2020 #19
If at first you don't succeed. Lie again. oasis May 2020 #21
It was 1787. You know that Biden REFUSED PCIntern May 2020 #25
How many on-the-record liars do they have to back this one up. Salviati May 2020 #26
Wait, why are 12 or 13 or 14 or 11 or 15 year-olds at these political dinners R B Garr May 2020 #27
Maybe it was 2006, 2005, 2004,... somewhere in the U.S. - Biden needs to say when and where dalton99a May 2020 #30
lol.. Biden needs to tell us when he was at the gridiron so CO'D Cha May 2020 #32
Really grasping at straws there. Crunchy Frog May 2020 #31
That is so pathetic. ucrdem May 2020 #34
Dear Penthouse Forum maxrandb May 2020 #37
Every reporter who spread that Biden Gridiron lie yesterday should lose their jobs immediately.. Cha May 2020 #38
So this girl was 13 then? dawg day May 2020 #39
Yeah, and we know Joe Biden wasn't Cha May 2020 #42
Nut case Republicans are getting their dialogue from "Get Smart" DFW May 2020 #41
 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
10. next she's going to say
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:13 PM
May 2020

That it hasn't happened yet, but it's going to happen next year.

She's a witch, she knows the future!

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
11. Original story - Biden at 2008 dinner
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:13 PM
May 2020

commented on Christine O'Donnell's niece's breasts when she was 14 year old. Now since he wasn't there, the story shifts back a year earlier. Still Biden can't be placed there since he was in Iowa.

It is just another hit job.

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
3. Is it just me or
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

does anyone else sense that someone like ghouliani has been out throwing some free money to willing liars?

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
7. OK, who's running this "smear campaign?"
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:11 PM
May 2020

Don Adams ("OK, would you believe......&quot




jon lovitz ("Yeah, that's the ticket....&quot

gristy

(10,667 posts)
9. What dinner? Do dinners happen just once a year?
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:12 PM
May 2020

Seriously, though, for an OP, more background would be helpful.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
17. Yesterday
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:20 PM
May 2020

an accusation was made that Biden made comments about Christine O'Donnell's 14 year old (at the time) nieces breasts at a political dinner in Delaware in 2008. Several journalists started running with the story including the usual suspects like Katie Halper, Ryan Grim, and Nathan Robinson. Also ABC's Sasha Pezenik's tweeted it out.

It took about an hour for actual journalists to find out from multiple sources and documentation that Biden wasn't even at the dinner but instead was instead at home recovering from sinus surgery at the time. So, today they said it was actually the 2007 dinner, but again we have proof that Biden was campaigning in Iowa on the day for that event in 2007.

So, this accusation is now a completely debunked smear elevated by irresponsible journalists from the far left.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
23. Yeah
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:42 PM
May 2020

It does seem like Halper, Grim, and especially Robinson have been not only reporting on this story but actively working to create it.

Robinson even made a set of now deleted tweets where he admitted that he was telling the brother what to say to the Washington Post, which caused the brother to change the original story he told them about only having heard about Biden touching TRs shoulder.

After TR changed her story yesterday Grim and Halper were quick to try to claim that what she was saying was the same as they had always said. Nevermind that there are tweets from TR directly saying he has made a written complaint about "Harassment and more." Pretty clear that this "complaint" either never existed or was completely different from anything she was claiming and they were just using the excuse of looking for it to try to search through all of Bidens records to find things he has written or said that they can use against him. The second they find something where he is talking to a bank executive or somebody from Wall Street they are going to blow that up to show the "progressives' why he's a horrible person they should never support.

Their goal isn't to beat Trump, it's to ensure that he wins because they think it's the fastest way to bring on their "revolution."

They remind me of the socialists in Germany that joined the Nazis because they through that after Hitler took down the establishment they could take control from him and install a socialist state. Want to guess how that worked out?

The Magistrate

(95,249 posts)
33. Best To Get The Names Right, Sir
Sun May 3, 2020, 05:40 PM
May 2020

In Weimar Germany, the moderate center left was the Social Democratic Party, who were a body of similar character to the Labour Party in England, and considered 'the socialists' by all and sundry. It was the Communist Party which assailed this from the left, in terms which would need much explanation to make sense of today, with the aim of discrediting the Social Democrats as a leftist body, so they could succeed to leadership of the working class entire. Communist thugs did indeed join Nazi thugs in attacks on Social Democrat rallies and election activities. It became Communist policy to see Hitler's rise as a 'two birds with one stone' sort of thing. The Nazis would destroy the Social Democrats; under Communist leadership the workers would rally to revolution at the first taste of Nazi rule; Germany would become Red Germany under Communist rule. It is a strategy only a trained ideologue could be fool enough to propose, let alone believe in. Things did not, as you suggest, work out so well, and certainly not for those active as Communists, who at the first taste of Nazi rule found themselves not at the head of a horde of revolutionary workers, but hunted, beaten, disposed of impromptu by ingenious murder squads, or tormented in concentration camps.

If one seeks to transpose this to modern idiom, one or two adjustments must be noted. Politics in Weimar were violent and armed. The Social Democrats had an 'armed wing' for protection and defense, just as did other parties. The street brawl was a routine part of politics. The strategy of destroying the center takes on a different tone when actual armed violence is out of the question, at least on the left. If anything, that strategy becomes more dreamlike, more clearly a fantasy indulged in without the slightest expectation of actually acceding to authority and responsibility. That the Communists were a disciplined and armed party will be urged against the identification being made between the 'lefter than thou' of our day and the Communists of Weimar, on ground of their sharing a similar aim --- wrecking a center left party and taking it over as a revolutionary force, albeit in our day a revolution expected to involve no violence, as is the present style. It is true enough these 'red rose' sort of people are no organized body, and that each one considers himself or herself a fiercely independent thinker who takes orders from no one. It is also true they have forsworn violence, and would not engage in it themselves.


"There is no man so lonely as a dissenter in a Non-Conformist meeting."


"So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot."




 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
35. All true
Sun May 3, 2020, 06:06 PM
May 2020

I'm not really trying to make a direct comparison, just an analogy. Trump is clearly the threat here and is antithetical to everything the socialists say they are for, but that isn't stopping them from attacking the only person in the world who is a threat to remove him from power at this point.

And while Trump probably isn't going to have them murdered in the night, he is going to spend the next 4 years doing everything possible to make sure their agenda is never able to be enacted unless Joe Biden wins.

The Magistrate

(95,249 posts)
36. I Have Made The Analogy Numerous Times Myself Here, Sir
Sun May 3, 2020, 06:43 PM
May 2020

It strikes me as quite sound, when due allowance is made for altered circumstances, and things are given their right names. People who constitute a sort of 'libertarian left' (though among them are certainly believers in the prophecies of Marx) will bristle at being likened to Communists, and claims of 'McCarthy-ism' and 'Red-baiting' may be expected, so its best to have all the ducks in proper array.

PCIntern

(25,572 posts)
25. It was 1787. You know that Biden REFUSED
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:51 PM
May 2020

to sign the Constitution!!! His name is NOT ON IT. Neither is Obama’s which proves that not only was he a traitor, but that he was born in Kenya!

And OBAMA was not available on 9/11.

for those requiring context.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
26. How many on-the-record liars do they have to back this one up.
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

I hope someone is keeping track of this scum in order to hold their feet to the fire the next time they appear in the media.

dalton99a

(81,566 posts)
30. Maybe it was 2006, 2005, 2004,... somewhere in the U.S. - Biden needs to say when and where
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:53 PM
May 2020

and admit to it pronto


Crunchy Frog

(26,610 posts)
31. Really grasping at straws there.
Sun May 3, 2020, 05:00 PM
May 2020

It's like they're just throwing things out at random, hoping that something will stick.

"Well, he probably complimented some young girl about something at some event at some point in last few decades."

DFW

(54,428 posts)
41. Nut case Republicans are getting their dialogue from "Get Smart"
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:34 AM
May 2020

Republican plant: "I have proof that Joe Biden did something inappropriate at the 2008 Delaware Gridiron Dinner!"

Fact check: Umm, he wasn't even there.

Republican plant: "Would you believe it was at the 2007 Delaware Gridiron Dinner?"

Fact check: He wasn't there, either.

Republican plant: "Would you believe it was at the founding of the Dupont chemical company in 1897?"

Fact check: I think you had better tell Fox "News" to invent another scam to hang Biden on. This one isn't working.

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