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DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
Sun May 3, 2020, 08:55 PM May 2020

We are broken. We will need more than one VP to fix us.

One to review/change federal tax policy and bring the economy back.

Another to rebuild international relations and to rebuild the State Department. Also, will need to sort out problems in the intelligence community. Actually this VP will need to fix the entire Executive Branch.

We will need for these candidates to punch hard and bring some entertainment and excitement to the campaign. The media is bored with Biden and desperately looking for some juice so they will just keep going with the bogus sexual harassment stories. Trump will win every news cycle with his insanity and the media will just keep talking about Biden maybe being the lesser of two evils.







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We are broken. We will need more than one VP to fix us. (Original Post) DURHAM D May 2020 OP
The media made Trump successful four years ago. No reason it would be much different this time. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #1
So what does the President do, then? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #2
Mend international relations. gibraltar72 May 2020 #3
That was something the OP assigned to the vice president. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #4
Oh, heck, why not have two Presidents and four Vice Presidents? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #5
Not sure that it prohibits two. DURHAM D May 2020 #6
I'm hardly a Constitutional scholar, but the fact that PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #7
We'll have a great cabinet, elleng May 2020 #8
This BGBD May 2020 #9
Special cabinet posts.... mwooldri May 2020 #10
That's not only ridiculous but impossible. The Constitution says The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #11
Where? DURHAM D May 2020 #13
It refers to *the* vice president, singular. Not two of them. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #15
Easy to fix - Vice President(s) nt DURHAM D May 2020 #17
Which would take another Constitutional amendment. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #19
Really, I had no idea. DURHAM D May 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #14
This is funny because in the past VP has been so extraneous exboyfil May 2020 #12
Truman modernized the government in Washington DC pecosbob May 2020 #16
Your point is well taken, but probably the solution would be to establish LuckyCharms May 2020 #18
What an interesting concept. Cracklin Charlie May 2020 #21

Alex4Martinez

(2,192 posts)
1. The media made Trump successful four years ago. No reason it would be much different this time.
Sun May 3, 2020, 08:59 PM
May 2020

So, Yeah. K/R

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,589 posts)
4. That was something the OP assigned to the vice president.
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:15 PM
May 2020

Doesn't look like the president has much to do under that scheme.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
5. Oh, heck, why not have two Presidents and four Vice Presidents?
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:16 PM
May 2020

Oh, wait. The Constitution calls for one of each.

My bad.

DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
6. Not sure that it prohibits two.
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:22 PM
May 2020

However, one would be designated as the person who becomes President if something happens. Guess they could just flip a coin.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
7. I'm hardly a Constitutional scholar, but the fact that
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:23 PM
May 2020

it specifically spells out one of each would be the equivalent of prohibiting two.

elleng

(130,732 posts)
8. We'll have a great cabinet,
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:25 PM
May 2020

maybe announced in advance to address issues you mention.

Media 'bored' or not, I agree we need candidate(s) to punch hard and bring some entertainment and excitement to the campaign.

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
10. Special cabinet posts....
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:28 PM
May 2020

Tasked with doing a very specific job. Beyond that of the traditional cabinet posts. Or a Presidential task force.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,589 posts)
11. That's not only ridiculous but impossible. The Constitution says
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:38 PM
May 2020

there's one vice president, not two (or more). The Cabinet Secretaries are supposed to do those things, at least they would in a normal government.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,589 posts)
15. It refers to *the* vice president, singular. Not two of them.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:46 PM
May 2020

The Twelfth Amendment says: "The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,589 posts)
19. Which would take another Constitutional amendment.
Sun May 3, 2020, 11:08 PM
May 2020

You can't just make something plural because you feel like it.

Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #11)

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
12. This is funny because in the past VP has been so extraneous
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:21 PM
May 2020

at times that proposals have been made to also give them a cabinet position. They have only one job under the Constitution - President of the Senate. The only times they show up for that is when there are close votes and the State of the Union.

Biden should have an excellent Chief of Staff. I would assume he has made some agreements to consider high level surrogates for Cabinet positions if they wish them. The President has the Council of Economic Advisers and the National Economic Council (which is a joke under Trump given Kudlow is heading it).

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
16. Truman modernized the government in Washington DC
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:48 PM
May 2020

and cleaned up the clusterf*ck that it had been prior to World War II. Our next administration will have to do the same.

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
18. Your point is well taken, but probably the solution would be to establish
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:55 PM
May 2020

new cabinet positions, or something like that.

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