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Nina Turner joins People's Party (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2020 OP
Because billh58 May 2020 #1
NinaWas never a Democrat Gothmog May 2020 #2
No, she was... brooklynite May 2020 #24
Sorry, she was never a "rising star". Her biggest accomplishment was being appointed.... George II May 2020 #33
Oh look. They're already fighting with the Green party. Yavin4 May 2020 #3
green party, jill stein's LIES, helped bring us trump Cha May 2020 #8
THANK YOU. calimary May 2020 #27
Because there's no functional difference between the Greens and starting from scratch JHB May 2020 #20
Great explanation of dissident dysfunction, thanx. Hortensis May 2020 #21
Now they've become a conduit for election interference from domestic and foreign players Yavin4 May 2020 #23
Yikes... 2naSalit May 2020 #4
Well, isn't that special... The People's Party is a direct descendant of the Populist Party which... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #5
To paraphrase Brendan Behan, the first item on the Socialist agenda, OnDoutside May 2020 #14
Bye Felicia. Historic NY May 2020 #6
There some totally off the wall people over there Historic NY May 2020 #7
They care more about themselves than Cha May 2020 #15
This is another reason the DNC should only allow democrats to run on their ticket BlueLucy May 2020 #9
omg... the Return of the Stein's LIES' pushers.. that's Exaclty where she belongs.. Cha May 2020 #10
I'm surprised the Cenk Uyger, Ana Kasparian, or any of The Squad TexasTowelie May 2020 #11
that's right.. Cenk & Ana.. but I just remembered Cha May 2020 #12
She is not a Democrat, therefore she should not be a part of the Democratic convention still_one May 2020 #13
She talked herself right out of that. Cha May 2020 #16
Oh well.... Tarheel_Dem May 2020 #17
People's Party? Never heard of it. Good move toward more obscurity, Nina. stopbush May 2020 #18
If you read the fine print, it doesn't exist... brooklynite May 2020 #26
What a creep. And BS will be silent at Nina exhorts people not to vote Democratic. Squinch May 2020 #19
Road to obscurity. Stay there. nt oasis May 2020 #22
Wonder if she'll become the new face of JPR? brooklynite May 2020 #25
They took down Bernie and put up The Squad TexasTowelie May 2020 #31
Methinks that the Peoples Party may be getting a big cash infusion from Uncle Putin Yavin4 May 2020 #28
Please take Briahna with you Morigami May 2020 #29
She has every right to be an extremist. Renew Deal May 2020 #30
Removing all pretense of being a "Democrat". I guess this eliminates any possibility.... George II May 2020 #32

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
24. No, she was...
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:06 AM
May 2020

I had lunch with her back in 2015 when she was a rising star with the Ohio Democratic Party. It was the first Sanders campaign that drove her off the cliff...

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. Sorry, she was never a "rising star". Her biggest accomplishment was being appointed....
Mon May 4, 2020, 11:59 AM
May 2020

....to her state senate seat.

Cha

(297,149 posts)
8. green party, jill stein's LIES, helped bring us trump
Mon May 4, 2020, 01:35 AM
May 2020

the first time.. supposedly "..would bring the revolution.. " HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT FOR THE WORLD?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
20. Because there's no functional difference between the Greens and starting from scratch
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:56 AM
May 2020

2016 marked 20 years after Nader's 1996 run. The fact that he disappeared for four years should have been more than reason enough to not vote for him in 2000, but let's put that boulder aside for a moment, just for the sake of this discussion.

The Greens had 20 years to develop a liberal-left voting block, both within their party and allied to left-of-center independents and Democrats.

In that time they've had some small successes at the local (city/town/county) level, mostly in California. However, I couldn't find any Greens elected to state-level offices who hadn't changed party to Democrat or Independent by the time of their next election. And, obviously, they've never had anyone elected to a national -level office.

Coalition building just isn't their strong suit. When they're firing on all pistons, they act as if they want to be the lefty party in parliament in a country that doesn't have a parliamentary system.

But they rarely have fired on all pistons. They've been a platform for grandstanding, vanity campaigns, disruptors, and election-spoiling. They aid the antithesis of their supposed views.

And odds are the People's Party will be exactly the same.




Now, getting back to that boulder...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Great explanation of dissident dysfunction, thanx.
Mon May 4, 2020, 08:53 AM
May 2020

Such a transient mix of dysfunctionals that even higher-functioning Nina Turner rejects them as a base to build on.

Another effort to organize by the usual dissident types -- whose reason for existence IS dissidence -- would self-destruct like all its predecessors through history. Inevitable differences, often seemingly little ones, turn people who by nature cannot compromise to achieve agreements into internecine opponents.

However, before then, we can expect various huge powers, foreign and domestic, to make the most of it for their purposes.

So first thing I worry about is that this rejection of the Green's mix of dysfunctionals could signal intent to unite Sanders' and Trump's aggressively hostile left and right populist movements in "The People's Party" to finish taking down our government. Our intelligence services say Russia's working to do just that, and it's hardly a wild hair on their part. Extremists on right and left have much more in common with each other than with the vast mainstream, and uniting them against the mainstreams is a proven, standard technique of nation destroying.

If that succeeded, Trump's far larger and infinitely better organized and funded RW white nationalist, religious right, authoritarian version would come to dominate and take over/be taken over by the anti-democracy kleptocratic cabal that's taken over the Republican Party since 1990 or so.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
23. Now they've become a conduit for election interference from domestic and foreign players
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:04 AM
May 2020

They're not trying to win elections. They just want to spoil them.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Well, isn't that special... The People's Party is a direct descendant of the Populist Party which...
Mon May 4, 2020, 01:17 AM
May 2020

once may have gotten over 1% of the vote. That was in those Gay 90's before completely disappearing in the 1920's.

Populism was largely a Midwestern agrarian movement that talked about things like bimetallism. They were right on about some things, but could never get their act together.

TexasTowelie

(112,118 posts)
11. I'm surprised the Cenk Uyger, Ana Kasparian, or any of The Squad
Mon May 4, 2020, 02:18 AM
May 2020

aren't on the list. It's disgusting to see Tim Black is on it though. I watched a few minutes of one his videos once and said "never again."

Cha

(297,149 posts)
12. that's right.. Cenk & Ana.. but I just remembered
Mon May 4, 2020, 02:28 AM
May 2020

seeing a clip of him interviewed after Biden Won all those Super Tuesdays.. he looked sick but said he would vote for Biden.. and if he won would immediately start to primary him.

Never heard of Tim Black.. sounds like I'm lucky.

StaySafe, TexasT!

ETA~ I don't think anyone in Congress who's suppose to be a Dem would want to advertise they're not voting for our Dem Nominee.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
26. If you read the fine print, it doesn't exist...
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:07 AM
May 2020

...it is, as the Trump Administration likes to call things, "aspirational".

TexasTowelie

(112,118 posts)
31. They took down Bernie and put up The Squad
Mon May 4, 2020, 11:15 AM
May 2020

since they believe that Bernie sold out to the Establishment Democrats. Nina gets praised over there.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
28. Methinks that the Peoples Party may be getting a big cash infusion from Uncle Putin
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:09 AM
May 2020

The goal of these parties is spoil elections.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Removing all pretense of being a "Democrat". I guess this eliminates any possibility....
Mon May 4, 2020, 11:47 AM
May 2020

....of her speaking at the Convention if there is one.

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