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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:39 PM May 2020

San Diego County, CA, Sheriff Launches Criminal Probe of Man Wearing KKK Hood at Grocery

Social media users and local officials expressed outrage this weekend after photos emerged Saturday of a male shopper at the Santee, CA, Vons grocery wearing a makeshift Ku Klux Klan hood.

“Detectives from the Sheriff’s Department are looking into the matter and will pursue any appropriate criminal charges,” said a press release Monday, confirming an investigation reported late Sunday by Santee Mayor John Minto. “The Sheriff’s Department does not condone hate or any acts of intolerance in our communities. We are a county that is welcoming of people from all backgrounds.”

In a joint statement on behalf of the City Council and the City of Santee, Minto decried attire that “depicted a symbol of hatred. The citizens and Vons employees took steps to address the situation,” he said. “Many thanks to all who stepped forward to curtail this sad reminder of intolerance. Santee, its leaders, and I will not tolerate such behavior. Santee and its citizens are great, and this particular individual’s actions are not representative of us as a people and a wonderful city.”

On Saturday, photos taken about 5:40 p.m. began circulating of a middle-age man in cargo shorts and untucked tan shirt wearing a Klan hood in a store’s produce department. “Several employees came over together and told the man to either remove the hood or he would have to leave, so he removed the hood,” said a tweet.

A spokeswoman for Vons — a Fullerton-based unit of Albertsons — said in a statement Sunday:
Several members of our team asked the customer to remove it, and all requests were ignored until the customer was in the checkout area. This was a disturbing incident for our associates and customers, and we are reviewing with our team how to best handle such inappropriate situations in the future.

https://timesofsandiego.com/business/2020/05/03/sheriff-launches-criminal-probe-of-man-wearing-kkk-hood-at-santee-vons/



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San Diego County, CA, Sheriff Launches Criminal Probe of Man Wearing KKK Hood at Grocery (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2020 OP
He is a pretty ugly little terrorist. Looks like he lost his soap too. redstatebluegirl May 2020 #1
Another example of genetic superiority!!! ret5hd May 2020 #2
Really Chainfire May 2020 #4
Santee has a reputation (Klantee) because of these kinds of incidents. chia May 2020 #3
But MAGA Hats are allowed ?! uponit7771 May 2020 #5
Nothing But A Punk ProfessorGAC May 2020 #6
This guy is a stupid, ignorant racist forthemiddle May 2020 #7
I'll tell you why it's a 'threat' drthais May 2020 #8
I agree in principle forthemiddle May 2020 #9
The right to free speech/free expression is far from unlimited. There's a lot more restrictions... Hekate May 2020 #10
If they can refuse service for no shirt no shoes... LakeArenal May 2020 #11
I never questioned the stores ability to suppress his speech forthemiddle May 2020 #13
He should have just left. Won't turn out good for him. Baked Potato May 2020 #12

ret5hd

(20,486 posts)
2. Another example of genetic superiority!!!
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:52 PM
May 2020

Look at that profile! Look at that posture! Look at that grooming! I’m tellin’ ya’, hardly a finer specimen exists!

Chainfire

(17,515 posts)
4. Really
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:54 PM
May 2020

This guy thinks he is a part of the "Master Race." Maybe a he can get a lesson in interracial relationships while serving a little time in the county country club, where everyone is welcome.

chia

(2,244 posts)
3. Santee has a reputation (Klantee) because of these kinds of incidents.
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:10 PM
May 2020

Used to live there, and no, not everyone is a racist. But East County (of San Diego county) has more than its share of racists and white supremacists. This is a known fact but it's unusual to see it this blatant. I've been in that Vons store many, many times.

ProfessorGAC

(64,955 posts)
6. Nothing But A Punk
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:02 PM
May 2020

Also, a coward. If he's so committed to his dumbass philosophy, why hide his face? Because he's a coward.

forthemiddle

(1,378 posts)
7. This guy is a stupid, ignorant racist
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:05 PM
May 2020

But how is it illegal? What law limits someone’s ability to wear a KKK hood?

If he’s not threatening anyone, how is it illegal?

I applaud the store making him remove it, in fact I think they should have just kicked him out, I just don’t see it as illegal in light of the First Ammendment.

If he refused to leave, that’s trespassing. If he threatened anyone, that would be harassment, or disturbing the peace. But can a State or city make wearing a hood illegal? Just asking.....

drthais

(870 posts)
8. I'll tell you why it's a 'threat'
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:24 PM
May 2020

ask any black man, woman, or child in this country
whether or not this feels threatening to them;
there is your answer.
It is intimidation and suggests violence of the worst kind.

I do not personally think this is any better than yelling 'FIRE' in a movie theater

forthemiddle

(1,378 posts)
9. I agree in principle
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:32 PM
May 2020

I am just trying to figure out why it would be illegal? I am just asking for the statute, not whether you think it should be illegal. Does the city, or State have an ordinance, and what does it say. I just don’t see how it would pass Constitutional muster.

I have no problem with the store not allowing it on their property. In fact I think they should have kicked him out, not just allowed him to remove the hood.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
10. The right to free speech/free expression is far from unlimited. There's a lot more restrictions...
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:52 PM
May 2020

...on the First Amendment than there are on the Second.

You'd have to go through court cases upheld by federal courts and by the SCOTUS, not the Constitution itself. That's where the interpretation will be found.

LakeArenal

(28,809 posts)
11. If they can refuse service for no shirt no shoes...
Tue May 5, 2020, 11:07 AM
May 2020

They can say no racially divisive hats, guns, or flags.

Free speech is not calling people n’s or c’s.

Bars can refuse service, I’m guessing a grocery store can refuse service.

Not to mention the Stay at Home requirement.

Does free speech on private property hold?

I don’t think so.

forthemiddle

(1,378 posts)
13. I never questioned the stores ability to suppress his speech
Tue May 5, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

In fact I think they should have gone further by kicking him out, and barring him from ever coming back.

I am questioning the legality of the police, and DA charging him with a crime. That’s a whole different standard.

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