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Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
4. It certainly is an odd product for someone who makes women's clothes
Mon May 4, 2020, 08:26 PM
May 2020

and accessories to seek a patent for... I thought so when the news first broke, and it really makes me wonder now...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. "Stepped down" was the phrase used.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:20 PM
May 2020


Just like daddy, pretending to not be connected to their businesses.
Trump put his business in a "trust" that doesn't have to show where any money goes and which he can freely access for money.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
8. Trademarks are source identifiers.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:47 PM
May 2020

The Nike swoop on athletic gear, for example, identifies the gear as coming from a specific source: Nike.

Trademarks can be whimsical words or phrases, sounds, or images, or whole design schemes (McDonals's arches; the coke bottle shape and stylistic logo). But the bottom line is that it has to identify the source, not describe the product.

In most countries, trademarks are established by use (registration is just a recognition of rights you established by using the mark to identify your company as a source of the goods). So, in a system like that as long as you has been using the mark, have paid the registration fee and jumped through the proper hoops, you are entitled to the registration of the mark. (Some of the hoops are related to the nature of the mark, others are related to not infringing a mark previously used by another for the same class of goods).

You are only entitled to the mark if you are using it as a source identifier for the class of goods for which it was registered (or for a limited time before registration have an intent to use it).

I believe the system in China is broader - and proof of actual use is not required to obtain the mark (only to avoid cancellation in certain circumstances) I don't know Chinese trademark law enough to know whether they "have to" register her marks if she jumps through certain hoops - or have the discretion to deny it.

Any marks she registers in China are valid only in China.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Re: Any marks she registers in China are valid only in China.
Tue May 5, 2020, 01:13 AM
May 2020

That's interesting. So 2 years ago China gave her voting machines, coffins, some clothing styles, and
other stuff for the Chinese market.

And China gave trump company a 500 million dollar loan to build hotel/golf course in Indonesia.
right after trump reversed US sanctions against China's ZTE smart business, ignoring potential espionage warnings by Congress, including at the time even Rubio.

Now China Bank sez they don't have that 500 million $$$ loan to trump, that they sold it to someone else, un named.

There are not enough brooms and daylight to clean all his shit up.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
12. Trademarks are not really a big deal to get
Tue May 5, 2020, 02:42 AM
May 2020

By way of comparison, we charged $5-10,000 for a simple patent prosecution. We charged under $1,000 to register a trademark for one class of goods. (And under $200 for a copyright registration) Trademark registration is relatively straightforward paperwork, relatively small fees. (We swapped work with attorneys in China when we has US companies that needed Chinese marks, so I've only done US trademarks for Chinese companies. But the process/relative costs tend to be similar.)

Trademarks can be huge as assets, if used properly - but merely obtaining a mark is not a big deal at all.

Literally thousands of companies can also own trademarks for voting machines, coffins, and clothing. If the company doesn't build a reputation for their brand (trademark) for that class of goods all they've done is throw their registration money down the drain. Nike is only a valuable trademark because the source (Nike) has a solid reputation for quality/fad shoes, etc. So people will pay big bucks for Nike branded shoe

If you own the trademark, you get to keep others for using it for that class of goods. But right now - who, in their right mind - would want to use the Ivanka Trump name? So she gets the rights to keep someone else from branding their coffins "Ivanka Trump"



Hekate

(90,674 posts)
11. It means she is as crooked as Daddy. She got 30 trademarks as he was entering office.
Tue May 5, 2020, 01:47 AM
May 2020

Graft, pure graft.

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