General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone else just not like Chris Hayes?
I mean, before and after last week's debacle, he always sounds so breathless and hyperbolic. Very little information, lots of inappropriate emotions. Just in my opinion, YMMV.
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)relayerbob
(6,537 posts)Sorry, it's just me, I have never had much tolerance for that type of approach. I prefer calm and clear
trueblue2007
(17,193 posts)I think he sound childish.
SharonAnn
(13,771 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)drray23
(7,616 posts)As an aging Brooklin hipster. He is geekish and awkward beyond belief. For example he is unable to control interviews. If he has a republican on, they run over him every time while he sheepishly try to politely interrupt them...
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)As I said elsewhere in this thread, I want to see him more calm, consistent and professional
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)journalistic flaws he's pretty boring.
tinrobot
(10,885 posts)If they let me pick one MSNBC host to fire, he wouldn't top the list.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)cally
(21,591 posts)I dont know how or why he made this big of a mistake
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)hlthe2b
(102,127 posts)(as last week showed with his unquestioning hit piece on Biden). I think he is bright and hard-working and I am actually NOT among those wanting him removed. I do want him to feel the backlash and learn from it. But, if he can't get behind our eventual nominee and learn to put journalistic integrity to ALL stories, then I'm fine if he is sent packing.
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)I don't want him gone. I want him to be (more) professional.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,595 posts)drray23
(7,616 posts)uponit7771
(90,302 posts)unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)Seems just too involved in the production value and stories that will draw attention.
drray23
(7,616 posts)he is very sharp and often has insightful analysis. However he is not a good interviewer. He will let right wingers take control of it, too polite to interrupt them.
PatSeg
(47,270 posts)but I didn't watch his show all that much anymore. Ever since Trump got elected, I was on news overload so I had to cut back on my MSNBC viewing and Hayes was not in my top four or five. The way he handled the Tara Reade allegations pushed him lower on my list. I really expected better from him. Major disappointment for me and I probably won't watch him at all now.
judeling
(1,086 posts)He is much better at deep dives. The day to day news cycle doesn't really fit him.
But having said that he is in general much better at it then most.
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)of the time, but he's not a bullshitter nor a liar and I like him.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)given the climate these days and the "me too" movement. It's a necessary and long overdue tightrope to walk in regard to accusations of this sort. I don't see anything dishonest about what he did, he was wrong. That's it.
Truth be told, I shut his show off and I was pissed with him and MSNBC. I thought he was being stupid and taking political correctness too far and that MSNBC was flogging this dumb story way to long. But stupidity and dishonesty are not synonymous. He made a mistake.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Dont buy it.
lkinwi
(1,477 posts)Some shows were ok, but hes never been a favorite.
Midnight Writer
(21,714 posts)Guy's on his show five hours a week, plus other media projects.
If he toed the line on everything I wanted I would be suspicious.
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)His approach is too inconsistent for my taste. His stories are fine, it's his professionalism I want to see improved.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)not an expectation challenging moment...that is just plain wrong. It was misrepresented at best but honestly...he lied.
Sienna86
(2,148 posts)Hes compassionate and smart.
Raine
(30,540 posts)I don't have to agree with someone a 100% to like them and listen to them.
Sneederbunk
(14,278 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)He isn't Rachel, but I don't think he is aweful.
kcr
(15,314 posts)I was never a fan.
AJT
(5,240 posts)He doesn't seem to be able to adjust to a 5 day a week format. He's better when he has time to do some deeper investigation.
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... he's okay. I've heard he is well-liked by the folks at NBC. That's odd because I do perceive him as a Bernie / AOC etc supporter. It's not "in your face," but I get it...
He also gets an extra re-run on the west coast, which increases his reach. I would expect them to give the extra re-run to Rachel Maddow. I didn't like Chris' Friday night "live" shows. It seemed like he was doing a "stand up" monologue. I guess I'm used to them, now... He "all in" on the Biden story, recently...
badhair77
(4,208 posts)indifference. Then I caught Friday nights Biden mess and his grin and Im totally done. Im liking Anderson Cooper more.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)bigtree
(85,977 posts)...but this critique is almost groundless, and ignores the fact that he's one of just a hanhdful of journalists and reporters who reguularly report on issues which concern us, regularly promoting what we usually view as progressive causes around here.
What's the point of trashing him? We desperately need all of the voices that are willing to amplify our message, however theatrically lacking they might be, or whether they measure up to our every aspiration for news reporting and advocacy.
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)tend to cause people to ignore the presenter, and diminishes progressive causes overall. Maybe the choir he preaches to will like it, but others won't even listen.
bigtree
(85,977 posts)...
Polybius
(15,334 posts)I love him.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)much of him.
Sanity Claws
(21,840 posts)He comes on just before Rachel and sometimes I would tune in early and catch his show. His style just doesn't appeal to me. I much prefer Rachel or Lawrence O'Donnell. Brian Williams has his issues too but I prefer him to Chris Hayes.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)mokawanis
(4,435 posts)I try to get info from a variety of sources and he's one of the many.
tavernier
(12,369 posts)I didnt see the Biden thing, but I know that it wouldve made me angry. Im not sure if he should be fired but he certainly needs to address this again.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)He's not honest.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)watch Morning Joe but never watched them in 2016. I also like Steve Kornacki
blogslut
(37,982 posts)I don't think he should be fired.
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)This story what happened? I usually watch Chris did he mess up?
blogslut
(37,982 posts)I wasn't paying direct attention to it when it aired so I can't say exactly what was said during that show. Next day he was trending on Twitter with a hashtag to fire him.
I have the accuser's name on my blocked words list here because I don't have the energy to devote to that topic at the moment.
rickford66
(5,521 posts)He has on an interesting guest. He asks a question which includes all the information the guest would supply in their answer. The guest responds, yes, you're correct Chris. Why have the guest on? Chris continually wants to prove he knows everything the guest knows. Oh, and the breathless delivery.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)Not ready to throw him under the bus.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)Biden the entire primary and then the bullshit Reade story finished me as far as Hayes is concerned.
KT2000
(20,568 posts)He is able to get to the root of issues. His take on Ferguson was excellent.
WhiskeyWulf
(569 posts)I can't watch him. He looks like someone who's still sleeping in Superman pajamas.
Gothmog
(144,920 posts)pattyloutwo
(279 posts)And I think its nice to have some younger representation. So many old guys!
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,222 posts)reach the remote fast enough.
Gothmog
(144,920 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)Rachel and Lawrence are good but their shows can be long and boring (their coverage during the pandemic has been great though).
Hayes is well read but also quick witted and moves through his segments at a good pace. He routinely eviscerates Trumpism, 'Trump TV' (as he refers to Fox News), etc.
He's not alt-left/Bernie Bro; he cares about social justice and is not antagonistic towards 'establishment' Dems who he often has on his show (Cuomo was on recently).
I too disliked when he covered the Reade story. But as a journalist he must cover a story that major outlets like the NYT, WaPo, AP etc are covering. I blame them for not doing due diligence and in playing the both-siderism game, where Biden's 'sins' and Trump's are cast as the same.
nsd
(2,406 posts)Too smug, to emotional, and (as in this case) just not fair.
betsuni
(25,380 posts)Assume was passive-aggressive insults against Democrats like "elites" "neoliberal" "status quo" and the like. He wrote a whole book about elites ruining America. What was THAT about? Often he's perfectly fine. It's stupid to bash him for having Republicans on his show or bash him for not being perfect in every interview.
The problem is the emotional revolution/anti-establishment/elites thing. He has some sort of problem with people like Obama and Hillary and Biden who believe institutions and government can work if regulated. Maybe he'd be better off in a place where he can really go all-in revolution omg-elites. Then he wouldn't have to try to be objective.