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kentuck

(111,532 posts)
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:52 PM May 2020

Trump did not push for early testing 'because higher numbers would harm his re-election chances"..

This is beyond politics. This is criminal.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-testing-trump-election-campaign-dan-diamond-alex-azar-a9399661.html

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Donald Trump did not push to carry out widespread coronavirus testing because he believed higher confirmed case numbers could be damaging for his re-election campaign, reports have claimed.

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But the US president is also reported to have been reluctant to launch a campaign of “aggressive testing”, which could have identified key outbreak areas.

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“That’s partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of coronavirus outbreak,” said Dan Diamond, a Politico health reporter who has been investigating the Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus outbreak.

Speaking to NPR, he added: “The president had made clear – the lower the numbers on coronavirus, the better for the president, the better for his potential re-election this fall.”

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Trump did not push for early testing 'because higher numbers would harm his re-election chances".. (Original Post) kentuck May 2020 OP
Did he think no one would notice the refrigerated trucks full of corpses of PA Democrat May 2020 #1
My First Thought, Too ProfessorGAC May 2020 #3
To consider that takes thinking thinking about future consequences. Kablooie May 2020 #27
He is a menace ! RANDYWILDMAN May 2020 #2
He is depraved nt Blues Heron May 2020 #4
And now he is pretending that the high numbers are just fine. iemitsu May 2020 #5
A half-way competent president Retrograde May 2020 #6
'..a halfway competent president...'. Volaris May 2020 #16
Hope that Trump comes to his senses and puts himself to sleep, PufPuf23 May 2020 #7
I've been saying this for quite awhile PatSeg May 2020 #8
We knew that already. From his own lips when he said tulipsandroses May 2020 #9
Nuremberg his ass NEOBuckeye May 2020 #10
I remember when Washington tested and found a young girl positive gibraltar72 May 2020 #11
Fauci might know. Karadeniz May 2020 #12
Sounds like a crime against humanity, mass killing ... there should be an investigation uponit7771 May 2020 #13
Stupid thing. Best way to create huge numbers is to ignore it; to pretend it will fade away Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #14
3 things were obvious early on: RVN VET71 May 2020 #15
Deaths lag by about 3 weeks localroger May 2020 #26
Deranged Maggot. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #17
An American President did this... BadGimp May 2020 #18
Self-obsessed sociopath too stupid to realize... William Seger May 2020 #19
Aggressive testing could have gotten enough unknowingly infected people off the streets rocktivity May 2020 #20
I think I even heard Trump say this, early on. n't librechik May 2020 #21
Almost everything he does is criminal, and a large number of people refusing to even consider this Rainbow Droid May 2020 #22
This isn't exactly a news flash Gregory Peccary May 2020 #23
true BadGimp May 2020 #24
Yeah, the story is from the middle of March. LudwigPastorius May 2020 #25
If someone doesn't already know that the tRump warmfeet May 2020 #28

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
1. Did he think no one would notice the refrigerated trucks full of corpses of
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:57 PM
May 2020

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COVID-19 victims?

He has the critical thinking prowess of a 2 year old.

ProfessorGAC

(66,749 posts)
3. My First Thought, Too
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:01 PM
May 2020

It's pretty easy to ID the dead people. No hard to get tests are needed.
So, no lack of testing was going to prevent those numbers from rising!

Kablooie

(18,693 posts)
27. To consider that takes thinking thinking about future consequences.
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:39 PM
May 2020

Trump can't do that. He doesn't have that capability.
He has the mind of a three year old and only reacts to what is directly in front of him at the moment.

Someone told him that testing will reveal more cases which could hurt his reelection.
Therefore, no testing.

That's as far as his thought process goes.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
5. And now he is pretending that the high numbers are just fine.
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:12 PM
May 2020

Only 70,000 deaths so far and Trump is proclaiming victory.

Retrograde

(10,317 posts)
6. A half-way competent president
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:49 PM
May 2020

would test, consult with epidemiologists on the best course, target treatments, retest - and then maybe brag about the decline (one would hope) based on decent information.

It gets easier every day to understand how he could bankrupt a casino, let alone the other bankruptcies. I'm now surprised that there weren't many more.

PufPuf23

(8,980 posts)
7. Hope that Trump comes to his senses and puts himself to sleep,
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:52 PM
May 2020

permanently.

There is something seriously wrong with those that support Trump.

PatSeg

(49,097 posts)
8. I've been saying this for quite awhile
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:55 PM
May 2020

Trump is sabotaging testing because more tests mean more confirmed cases of COVID-19 and bad for him. He is still doing it. He will be the death of us all at this rate.

tulipsandroses

(5,338 posts)
9. We knew that already. From his own lips when he said
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:03 PM
May 2020

"I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault,"

He would have preferred to let Americans die on that ship. Let the infection spread amongst the 2000 plus passengers rather than have them come ashore and " double the numbers". I am sure someone talked him out of it and told him that Americans left to die on that ship would look worse than increased numbers.

NEOBuckeye

(2,786 posts)
10. Nuremberg his ass
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:42 PM
May 2020

Fuck Trump. Fuck his goddamn ego. Fuck everything about the man.

Thousands of lives were at risk, and all he gives a damn about is winning re-election? Fuck that motherfucker!

He had a duty of care to the American people and abdicated his duty for his own selfish ends. He absolutely MUST be put on trial and convicted for criminal negligence at the VERY LEAST.

gibraltar72

(7,545 posts)
11. I remember when Washington tested and found a young girl positive
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:50 PM
May 2020

Trump told them to stop testing. It was about the time he started calling Inslee a snake.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,738 posts)
14. Stupid thing. Best way to create huge numbers is to ignore it; to pretend it will fade away
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:57 PM
May 2020

But the nitwit is ready to believe all kinds of fairy tales.

RVN VET71

(2,726 posts)
15. 3 things were obvious early on:
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:57 PM
May 2020

1. He said he'd rather Americans die on a cruise ship if that's what it took to keep his numbers down.

2. He refused to launch -- and still refuses -- an aggressive testing effort because he thinks the numbers of cases would go up and his chance for "re-election" (I use that term very loosely) would be hurt.

3. Both of which prove what a foolish dumbass he is because:
a) saving American lives by ordering all of them to be taken off the cruise ship, tested and treated, would have raised his stock considerably early on, and
b)testing 10s of millions of people asap would have given an indication of the actual percentage of deaths resulting from the plague. By not testing, the idiot has allowed the identified deaths from the plague to occupy a much higher percentage of cases and to loom accordingly larger in the minds of the people who might be thinking about voting for him in November. We've lost 70,000 Americans and Trump seems OK with that (may God strike him down for his lack of feeling), but the 70,000 are based on 1.3 million cases. If the 70,000 were based on a more accurate 10 million cases, the lethality of the disease would be seen in better -- and less damning to Trump -- perspective.

(70,000 of 1.3 million = 5% fatality, 70,000 of 13,000,000 =.5%, assuming that the numbers of deaths are accurate and the identified cases so far are off by a factor of 10.)

localroger

(3,658 posts)
26. Deaths lag by about 3 weeks
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:37 PM
May 2020

The best numbers we have seem to indicate a mortality rate of about 2%, as long as the 10% who need hospital care get it. The countermeasures were never about keeping people from getting it; once it was in the general population, as contagious as this thing is absent a vaccine everyone is eventually going to get it. What the countermeasures are about is keeping everyone from getting it at the same time and overwhelming the hospital system with victims who might recover with proper care, but can't get it and also die.

BadGimp

(4,033 posts)
18. An American President did this...
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:07 PM
May 2020

This President took deliberate steps to prevent the nation from preparing for a War purely because he did not want to risk any insights and information that might put his political ambitions at risk.

His deliberate actions allowed the enemy to inflict massive casualties on the entire nation. Many many people died who may not have otherwise been infected...

There a term for that kind of behavior in wartime! And there is a way we need to deal wth it.

William Seger

(10,837 posts)
19. Self-obsessed sociopath too stupid to realize...
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:08 PM
May 2020

... he was stepping in his own shit. He had every opportunity to sail through re-election by at least acting like he gave a shit about people dying and simply doing what the experts recommended. He would have looked like the hero that he now only pretends to be.

rocktivity

(44,649 posts)
20. Aggressive testing could have gotten enough unknowingly infected people off the streets
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:16 PM
May 2020

for the herd immunity of the uninfected to kick in. Until the vaccine is ready, nationwide mass testing is the only answer...unless the master plan is to kill off as many Democratic voters as possible, with defunding of the postal service to undermine voting by mail for good measure


rocktivity

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
22. Almost everything he does is criminal, and a large number of people refusing to even consider this
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:20 PM
May 2020

is the main reason he keeps getting away with it.

He's been a petty, narcissistic thuglet for literally his entire life.

Just 30 minutes of open minded, unbiased research on the man will reveal 95% of the character he has displayed for literally his entire life.

At what point does refusing to accept this reality make his followers complicit in his actions?

For at least 100 years America has held, and even occasionally militarily enforced, the position that ignorance is not a valid excuse when the facts are easily obtainable. America must now apply this standard to herself or she will lose not only all credibility, but indeed The Republic itself.

However, the vast majority of American citizens do not realize, and in fact are not even prepared to consider, that this is exactly what these people want.

After all, the primary initial goal of the Nazi Party was to destroy the Weimar Republic, and these American Nazis are no different.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
28. If someone doesn't already know that the tRump
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:47 PM
May 2020

is a criminal, in every way, that someone does not belong on this website.

Sane people will be voting for Joe Biden.

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