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wildman76

(292 posts)
Wed May 6, 2020, 08:32 AM May 2020

My generation has gained nothing at all

Iam so fustrated and absolutely upset ,my generation will have nothing no retirement no healthcare ,and watching rightwingnuts becoming mainstream is very awful ,I don't even know where to gain my thoughts I feel so trapped

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My generation has gained nothing at all (Original Post) wildman76 May 2020 OP
I'm very sorry. I have to agree captain queeg May 2020 #1
younger generations have sat too many elections out for all sorts of reasons. There are consequences beachbumbob May 2020 #2
I think the previous generation has eroded so much that their is nothing left wildman76 May 2020 #3
Yep. fleur-de-lisa May 2020 #14
The Future Is Never RobinA May 2020 #28
I daresay bigtree May 2020 #4
These feelings are pretty typical of every generation. The struggle for a better, fairer, more just sop May 2020 #5
I have no retirement past SS. If I hadn't enlisted in a snit to prove something to my dad ... marble falls May 2020 #6
I never said I was alone in the boat ,further more it was a statement of fustration wildman76 May 2020 #7
Do not give up. They count on that. marble falls May 2020 #8
When I watched True Blue American May 2020 #10
As an old old white dude: do not vote for another old white dude unless he's who is running ... marble falls May 2020 #13
:) True Blue American May 2020 #19
They turn me off, too. But the simple truth is I am over represented in Congress. We need it ... marble falls May 2020 #23
As one of the old ones I am True Blue American May 2020 #24
I have no problems with Joe Biden. I just wish he had been more a "Lutheran" is his ... marble falls May 2020 #26
As a Woman True Blue American May 2020 #27
That's my thought, too. I hate victim shaming, but she doesn't seem a victim ... marble falls May 2020 #29
I can only speak True Blue American May 2020 #32
A fine line. We men haven't helped ourselves about it much. marble falls May 2020 #33
Vote. Codeine May 2020 #9
And we have to change that. True Blue American May 2020 #11
My daughter loves to accompany me when I vote. Codeine May 2020 #17
Good for you! True Blue American May 2020 #20
Vote. Support local candidates. Make a difference. MineralMan May 2020 #12
Those local True Blue American May 2020 #21
The resources and money exist, this is the wealthiest appalachiablue May 2020 #15
100% agree! True Blue American May 2020 #22
it sucks but now is not the time to give up... Locrian May 2020 #16
Thanks for the info wildman76 May 2020 #18
I am watching a man show Trump how True Blue American May 2020 #25
Maga corruption wildman76 May 2020 #30
cheers Locrian May 2020 #34
Vote vote vote Politicub May 2020 #31

captain queeg

(10,157 posts)
1. I'm very sorry. I have to agree
Wed May 6, 2020, 08:35 AM
May 2020

I’m old enough that I’ll survive in one way or another but I really feel sorry for the younger generation. I have a 19 year old son and I hate what a mess we are leaving to those who follow.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. younger generations have sat too many elections out for all sorts of reasons. There are consequences
Wed May 6, 2020, 08:38 AM
May 2020

and the last 3+ years is the perfect example. If anything else, your generation and others have to learn they need to be able to take care of themselves, be able to work with their hands and brains. The future is not going to be what it was once going to be is becoming clearer every day

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
28. The Future Is Never
Wed May 6, 2020, 12:59 PM
May 2020

what is was going to be. I graduated from college in 1980. Any decision that I made then based on what seemed like rational thinking has been wiped out by now. I made a decision in 2008 based on what was true then and looked to be true going forward that put me in a pretty good position today. I'm 62 and can't retire yet, but fingers crossed things we don't have a complete collapse and I should be fine. I've completely changed careers three times, once when I was 46. So kids, stay flexible, don't live outside your means, and look for bedrock jobs that are as unaffected as possible by market forces. Right now my money's on car mechanic. When (if ever) society is done with cars you will be able to see it coming a mile off and make the necessary changes. Either that or marry somebody really old and really rich. Although, be careful with that. They may end up being the President and then you have THAT mess to contend with. 4-8 years of pretending you like them. Or not!

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
4. I daresay
Wed May 6, 2020, 08:44 AM
May 2020

...this is the challenge of your lifetime.

I don't know what course you'll choose, but you young folks are pioneers in a hostile land. Where you go, the nation will eventually follow.

sop

(10,146 posts)
5. These feelings are pretty typical of every generation. The struggle for a better, fairer, more just
Wed May 6, 2020, 08:45 AM
May 2020

world has been going on for a long time.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
6. I have no retirement past SS. If I hadn't enlisted in a snit to prove something to my dad ...
Wed May 6, 2020, 08:49 AM
May 2020

and make a point, I'd have no health insurance. My university education has never meant anything to any job I've ever had until I went to a trade school and learned drafting. Look in the paper these days for draftsmen jobs. None. The factories my dad worked in? Gone. The middle class has been disappearing since the 80's. What makes you think you're all alone on this boat? Are your parents any better off than you?

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
10. When I watched
Wed May 6, 2020, 09:13 AM
May 2020

Houses being built by 3D it showed just how much things have changed in 20/30 years.

There will always be a need for manual Labor but even an auto mechanic has to be trained on computers. It is amazing to me just how changed the world of Engineering is, but you still need to know the basics.

The young seem to me to be stepping up.

But as long as we keep electing old men.,long past retirement age who still think it is 1950 nothing will change. Who would think we have a whole Political party that denies climate change and Science, think tax cuts will fix a deficit. Refuse to modernize a bloated health care system run by lobbyists? Refuse to pass an Infrastructure bill that would create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs, High Speed Rail.

Until we clean house of those who only care about their perks, bullying and lying their way forward.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
13. As an old old white dude: do not vote for another old white dude unless he's who is running ...
Wed May 6, 2020, 09:42 AM
May 2020

against the Orange Shitstain or its ilk.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
19. :)
Wed May 6, 2020, 11:54 AM
May 2020

There are intelligent Old white dudes! Trump is not one of them. Joe is!

My gripe is with the mean, nasty old dudes that brag about being the grim reaper.

As an old dudette they turn me off.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
23. They turn me off, too. But the simple truth is I am over represented in Congress. We need it ...
Wed May 6, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

to look more like the 60% of the rest of the country. At least the House is solidly beginning to. The Senate and the WH need to, too.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
24. As one of the old ones I am
Wed May 6, 2020, 12:25 PM
May 2020

Very happy to see the young step up and take charge!

I am for Biden because I think he is intelligent, will hire the smartest of the young to help him govern. All of those who ran would fill his Administration nicely. Even bring back some from the Obama years.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
26. I have no problems with Joe Biden. I just wish he had been more a "Lutheran" is his ...
Wed May 6, 2020, 12:35 PM
May 2020

familiarity with others. I don't think there was anything untoward in his actions but they have left him open to the dispersion of a lot filthy minded GOPers. It's a nasty little distraction, especially so as its all coming from those who support a disgusting pervert like Donnie Two Scoops.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
27. As a Woman
Wed May 6, 2020, 12:41 PM
May 2020

After reading Tara Reade’s History, listen to her ever changing story I firmly believe she is being paid. No doubt in my mind.

The worst part is things like this hurt those who really have suffered.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
29. That's my thought, too. I hate victim shaming, but she doesn't seem a victim ...
Wed May 6, 2020, 01:03 PM
May 2020

this is a hard thing for men to 'weigh in" on. It's a problem men have created.

I absolutely get the problem women have with men offering help and not knowing if the man can be trusted or not. We as a group earned that distrust and the shame that comes or should come with it.

I absolutely get #metoo and I get the first thing that a woman's report of assault is that they should be believed even as the report needs to be taken seriously while its being investigated.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
32. I can only speak
Wed May 6, 2020, 02:07 PM
May 2020

For the men in my family who are scared lives can be destroyed, careers ruined, so I really have to look down the middle.

Many men are guilty, some are not. It is a very fine line we have to straddle.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
11. And we have to change that.
Wed May 6, 2020, 09:15 AM
May 2020

Push our kids and Grandkids by letting them know it is their future, not ours.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. My daughter loves to accompany me when I vote.
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:29 AM
May 2020

It’s the main reason I still vote in person, to reinforce the idea that it’s routine, it’s mandatory, and it’s simple. She will be able to vote in a few years and she’s very engaged politically.

Fingers crossed that her friends feel the same way.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
20. Good for you!
Wed May 6, 2020, 12:02 PM
May 2020

We had a couple of high school students working with us at the polls. They liked us so much they asked to come back.

I defended one from a rude voter who complained she had to show her Drivers license. Flipped her Nurses badge at the girl as if that was ID. When the lady came to me I said,” We really need workers, would you care to sign up?”By the time she finished voting I think she realized she was wrong. Came back smiling to return her memory card.

The girls learned how to handle rude people and enjoyed it.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
15. The resources and money exist, this is the wealthiest
Wed May 6, 2020, 09:47 AM
May 2020

nation in the history of the world. It depends on how the country is run that matters.

Become politically engaged, especially VOTE to stop the carnage and put in place a fairer system and a better vision.

In 1932 during the Great Depression FDR, his cabinet and the Democrats in Congress passed legislation for policies and programs to change this nation to a better one at a time of mass unemployment. It was called the New Deal and it worked to bring stability and progress for more than 40 years.

Regulations were put on banks to prevent high risk practices, major new jobs programs were created to employ people throughout America, and desperate, out of work people were helped by new programs for 'relief'/food stamps.

The GI bill was used to help (WWII) military veterans attend college and receive aid from federal housing agencies in obtaining secure and fair housing loans. The elderly and those unable to work were assisted greatly by the new federal Social Security program.

The economic system and climate change are enormous issues but please don't give up. There can be a better world ahead, we have to work to create it.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
16. it sucks but now is not the time to give up...
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:03 AM
May 2020

The population is becoming more liberal/progressive - and its a matter of time before it all flips.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-democrats-have-shifted-left-over-the-last-30-years/

First, the data shows that Democrats have indeed become more liberal over time, particularly on questions related to race and immigration. For instance, the share of Democrats who think the government has a special obligation to help improve black people’s standard of living due to past discrimination increased by over 20 percentage points between 1986 and 2018, while the share who think the number of immigrants to the U.S. should increase rose from 10 percent in 2004 to 35 percent in 2018.2


And this is not just democrats - but the general population. You're seeing the (scary) die off of the past.

Don't give up.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
25. I am watching a man show Trump how
Wed May 6, 2020, 12:32 PM
May 2020

A mask is made. It is clear he is not interested. Only concerned about the camera.

Did anyone hear that Kushner gave approval to a company for $69 million to make masks! Not one was made. This whistleblower Doctor filed 86 pages of mismanagement, favoring cronies. Down right stealing in plain sight.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
31. Vote vote vote
Wed May 6, 2020, 01:29 PM
May 2020

The millennial generation spans 80 to 90 million Americans. If even half of the generation votes, it would control the direction of the country.

I’m gen x and we have a poor record of voting, too. I don’t get it.

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