Box Scores Show Trump Lied His Ass Off About Being a High School Baseball Legend

[Major Nikon]

Here’s a shock—President Trump, who has repeatedly boasted about how great he was at baseball in high school and how he could totally have gone pro if he’d wanted to, actually pretty much sucked at it. Slate has managed to unearth nine box scores from Trump’s time at New York Military Academy, which showed a four-for-29 batting record in his sophomore, junior, and senior seasons, with three runs batted in and a single run scored. Trump’s batting average in the nine games Slate found box scores for stood at a disappointing .138. Slate asked The Athletic’s Keith Law, a senior baseball writer, if Trump’s numbers sounded like those of someone who could have gone pro. “You don’t hit .138 for some podunk, cold-weather high school playing the worst competition you could possibly imagine,” Law said. “It’s absolutely laughable. He hit .138—he couldn’t fucking hit, that’s pretty clear.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-lied-his-ass-off-about-being-great-at-high-school-baseball-box-scores-show

"I was captain of the baseball team," Trump explained. "I was supposed to be a professional baseball player. Fortunately, I decided to go into real estate instead. I played first base and I also played catcher. I was a good hitter. I just had a good time."

[Zoonart]

1. Not even batting his weight. LOLOLOL.

Who is surprised?

[MiniMe]

60. If he batted his actual weight, that would be a pretty good batting average.

[SouthernCal_Dem]

2. LOL

“You don’t hit .138 for some podunk, cold-weather high school playing the worst competition you could possibly imagine,” Law said. “It’s absolutely laughable. He hit .138—he couldn’t fucking hit, that’s pretty clear.”

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Beauty eh!

Buck thirty eight! Just no end to his Bullshit.

[Moostache]

4. Probably the least surprising thing about him...he lied?

Donnie 2 Scoops could not hit the curve.
Or the change.
Or the slider.
Or the fastball.
Probably not the Eephus either...


0.138?
That's not even spitting distance of the Mendoza line for chrissakes!

[SergeStorms]

42. You could just hold the bat out in front of you...

not swing at all, and hit better than .138. He didn't play a skill position, he couldn't hit, we used to call those guys "splinter asses" from riding the bench so much.

But once again, Trump is a legend in his own mind.

[ProfessorGAC]

53. Assuming(!) There Were Actually 81 Games...

...over three seasons & PINO played in all of them:
In the other 72 games, he would have to hit .320 to have an average of .300 for his HS career.
High schoolers who hit .300 don't go to the major leagues, if they're not flame throwing pitchers.
Guys who attract scouts from small high schools are hitting .450, with power. At least.
We had a kid from this town about 15 years ago that hit .525 for his HS career.
He never made it past a reserve in AA.
And, at the HS level, really good hitters don't have randomly chosen games where they're 4 for 29.
A bad 2 weeks for those kids is 9 for 29, instead of 11 or 12.
Of course, he made this whole thing up.
Like me, as a very good basketball player I could have played in the NBA, except for that 5'7" thing. Yeah except for that!!! LOL! Geez, in junior year (I left after 3 years to go to college) I had only three schools ever talk to me! It was clearly, yeah he can play and can jump, but he's only 5-7. Pass!
And I'll bet a grand right now I was a WAY better bball player than he was a hitter!

[mr_lebowski]

5. How many games in a high school baseball season?

First stringers would bat on average 2-3 times in a 7-inning HS game. 2 is a minimum, you have 21 outs and 9 starters.

Let's say there's 15 games/season, that's a guess but probably not far off.

So, 3 seasons, that's 45 games, 2-3 times a game would be 90-135 AB's.

But he batted 29 times? That pretty much tells you that he was at best a 2nd string player, quite possibly 3rd string.

[Major Nikon]

6. That can't be true, he was the captain of the team!

Source: DT

[mr_lebowski]

9. That just means every game he'd show up at the yard wearing one of these ...

And then in games where they were either ahead or behind by 10 or more runs, they'd let take him go in and take a few hacks at it in the 7th inning (while the team busted up in the dugout).

[sop]

51. More likely the team's student manager, the guy who handed out the jockstraps.

[edhopper]

8. Yes this

29 at bats in 3 years???

[rsdsharp]

11. To be fair, they only found about

a quarter of the games reported with box scores in the area papers. In those games he sucked at the plate, but apparently played a decent first base, defensively.

[mr_lebowski]

13. I guess I should've actually read beyond the hits and AB's ... lol ...

But in my defense, my GAF level is extremely low ATM ...

[Mosby]

47. First base is the least skilled infield position.

In the pros its a position for a big hitter who sucks at fielding.

[rsdsharp]

54. Sometimes. Gehrig comes to mind.

But there are many great fielding first basemen who didn’t hit for great power.

Joey Votto
Todd Helton
Keith Hernandez
Mark Grace
John Olerud
Don Mattingly
Vic Power
High Pockets Kelly

Even some of the boomers were good with the glove

Anthony Rizzo
Paul Goldschmidt
Gil Hodges
Albert Pujols
Eddie Murray
Raphael Palmero

[edhopper]

7. Comparison

Derek Jeter hit .508 in High School.

[gratuitous]

10. Fake box scores!

They made Donald hit from home plate instead of second base and they wouldn't let him use a tee. It was so unfair!

[leftieNanner]

24. The person who "posted" these "fake" box scores in the newspaper

is the same one who "posted" the "fake" birth announcement for Barack Obama.

[gibraltar72]

12. Well below the Mendoza line in high school.

Best player in New York?

[greenjar_01]

36. I'd like to see a list of guys who eventually went professional then in NY high schools

[duforsure]

14. He's bragged many times how great he was at baseball

But coming from a serial liar you knew it was just another claim he could never back up. He's been doing that type of stuff with claims and accusations with himself and others for decades, and is still doing that now. If he claims something, think the opposite because he rarely tells the truth.

[Dave Starsky]

44. To be good at sports you need a few things, even if you are talented

1) Self-discipline
2) An eagerness to learn from others
3) The ability to admit your own mistakes and to learn from them
4) Patience
5) Hard, seemingly unceasing work that is often painful

Absolutely none of which Trump has the capacity for in the least.

Which is why he sucks at literally everything.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. Trump batted .138, which is actually better than his record as president.

The whole rather long but quite interesting article is here: https://slate.com/culture/2020/05/donald-trump-baseball-high-school-nyma.html

The local papers didn’t cover every NYMA game, but I was able to find accounts of about a quarter of the ones played during Trump’s sophomore and junior seasons, while papers covering opposing teams captured a few of NYMA’s away games his senior year.

The first mention of Trump in an NYMA baseball story came during his sophomore year in 1962. “Don Trump made some fine fielding plays for Coach Ralph Petrillo’s NYMA club,” the final line of the story reads. In a 4–1 loss to Cheshire, Trump played first base, hit sixth, and went 0 for 3. I found three total box scores from his sophomore year. In those games, he went 1 for 10 at the plate.

His junior year, Trump went 2 for 10 in the three game stories I found in the archives. In Trump’s senior season, I couldn’t find much of any NYMA baseball coverage in the Evening News. But the Poughkeepsie Journal and Journal News had him hitting 1 for 9 in three games.

Combined, the nine box scores I unearthed give Trump a 4 for 29 batting record in his sophomore, junior, and senior seasons, with three runs batted in and a single run scored. Trump’s batting average in those nine games: an underwhelming .138. (I found one additional mention of a hit and another of a hitless game in games that didn’t have box scores.)

But years later Trump tried to "refresh" a teammate's memory:

We were walking together near the baseball field where, he reminded me, he’d played exceptionally well. He demanded that I tell him the story of one of his greatest games.

“The bases were loaded,” I told him. “We were losing by three. You hit the ball just over the third baseman’s head. Neither the third baseman nor the left fielder could get to the ball in time. All four of our runs came in; we won the game.”

“No,” he [Trump] said. “That’s not the way it happened. I want you to remember this: I hit the ball out of the ballpark! Remember that. I hit it out of the ballpark!”

Ballpark? I thought. We were talking about a high school practice field. There was no park to hit a ball out of. And anyway, his hit was a blooper the fielders misplayed.

Typical Trump.

[Frustratedlady]

16. Does he have major headaches?

I wonder because I would think that coming up with so many lies and keeping track of them over all those years would make a person's head ache to high heaven. Just think of the ones we know of. They give me a headache and I don't have to CYA about any of them.

[leftieNanner]

26. I have wondered that myself

But I don't think he even tries to keep track of his lies. He just makes up new ones and if anyone tries to call him out, he tells them they are nasty and changes the subject.

[MarcA]

17. Typical of a Con who inherited money and connections. n/t

[LuckyCharms]

18. He was probably the punter for the baseball team.

[leftieNanner]

27. Goalie

[LuckyCharms]

29. The puck boy.

[leftieNanner]

38. That explains his fake teeth nt

[maxrandb]

34. He was using a Football Bat

[Buckeye_Democrat]

19. Typical bullshit from him.

Count me as not surprised at all.

Edit: He didn't strike me as very athletic from old pics of him either. Not overweight like now, but he still looked "soft" to me.

[kairos12]

20. Baseball is way too hard of a game

for an ass cheese like Chump ever to be good at. It requires way too much practice and discipline.
Although, I wish there was a high school player with Ty Cobb mentality at that time he would have come at him spikes high.

[greenjar_01]

33. That's how he got his bone spurs

[PCIntern]

21. Just wait one fucking minute...

OK, I played interscholastic tennis for my high school team. Either second singles or third singles was my position for three years on the team. I lost many more matches than I won. If I went public and stated that I was number one singles championship player in a variety of tournaments at least 300 people whom I know would come out of the woodwork and say that’s a lie.

I mean, how can you lie about athletics when not only is it a matter of record within the school, but everybody on the team and everybody who watched the team is fully aware of how well or poorly you played?

Oh and by the way I did win Wimbledon one year I can’t remember which year it was but I won it and I have the trophy somewhere in my attic to prove it.

[leftieNanner]

37. I think I remember you on center court that year....

6-0, 6-0, 6-0

[IronLionZion]

40. Dude has always lied about things that are very easily disproven

There are many video clips of him contradicting himself all over the place. Reporters have called him out on lots of things including his COVID statements that he claims he never said.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

22. So much winning...

I’m tired of it all ready.

Thanks mr. .138%

[bucolic_frolic]

23. Saddest part of all is that Trump actually remembers it that way

A legend in his own mind, always the greatest show on earth.

[Botany]

25. "He hit .138--he couldn't fucking hit, that's pretty clear."

Link to tweet

[Celerity]

28. Trump, who played first base, wrote that "being a pro was in the equation" until he attended a

tryout with “another young kid named Willie McCovey.”


Willie McCovey was already a 21yo major league player when Trump had just turned 13!!!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McCovey#Major_Leagues

In his Major League debut on July 30, 1959, McCovey went four-for-four against Hall-of-Famer Robin Roberts of the Philadelphia Phillies with two singles and two triples. In 52 major league games, he had a .354 batting average and 13 home runs. He was named the National League's (NL) Rookie of the Year.

[LuckyCharms]

31. Give him a break. He meant to say Jimmie Foxx.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

32. Does he actually "remember" stuff this way?!

Is he such a malignant narcissist that his memories are distorted to that extent?!

An outright liar would be more comforting.

[bucolic_frolic]

39. You may have uncovered the birth

of Birtherism.

Not only was Willie McCovey black, but he played for the San Francisco Giants.

[Dave Starsky]

41. He also lost a 15-round decision to Joe Lewis

He could have been a contender, if it hadn't been for those blue-state boxing judges.

[Mosby]

46. Lol.

[greenjar_01]

30. ROFL

.138!

I mean, it's only nine games worth, but damn!

Fucking bozo.

[The Magistrate]

35. Every Word From His Mouth, Sir

We must add 'everything Trump says is lies' to 'everything Trump touches dies'....

[mac56]

43. And all this while suffering debilitating bone spurs?!

The guy is a medical marvel.

[Brainfodder]

62. 239 but looks 305, grifted athlete too no doubt?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

45. I won the women's singles figure skating championship at the Olympics

in 1968. Or maybe it was 1969. I beat Sonia Henie, anyhow. Oh, was she in the Olympics in 1936? It was a different year, then, but I'm sure it was her. Or maybe it was Katarina Witt. It's been a long time. I have the medal somewhere, though.

[NNadir]

48. A more startling headline would be "Trump told the truth about...xxxxxx." When he opens his...

...mouth, he's lying.

[Hangdog Slim]

49. Loser

A person could bunt every AB and do as well as a .138 BA. Pathetic loser

[Harker]

50. So, he hit six times his IQ?

A lotta people say that's fantastic.

[DemoTex]

52. Poor Donnie, born on third base and thought he'd hit a triple!

Apologies to former Texas Agricultural Commissioner Jim Hightower and University of Oklahoma and Dallas Cowboys Coach Barry Switzer, both of whom used versions of this pithy witticism.

[aggiesal]

55. My favorite response was ...

He was the punter on the baseball team!

[Elwood P Dowd]

56. "He was the best NYC area first baseman prospect since Lou Gehrig was playing at Columbia University

in the early 1920s. He didn't want to play in the pros because he could make more money in the business world."

Be ready for that story if this thing grows legs and gets national attention. The bots on Facebook will call the story fake news and cook up the one above about their hero.

[rsdsharp]

57. Actually, in the Slate story, Trump is

quoted as saying you couldn’t make money in baseball in theaters, even as a great player.

[Brainfodder]

58. Spare us the lies and show the truths to save time?

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So much truth, about to catch up to all the winning?

[colsohlibgal]

59. Another Lie From A Serial Liar

No shock that the real truth is he could barely hit HS pitching. What a loser you wonder how this stupid clown would have fared if he had to make it on his own minus 55 million from Daddy....since he managed to go bankrupt anyway. This is your worthless hero Trumpsters.

Had I inherited 55 million I would have given my parents and Sister 10 million apiece....that would leve me with 25 million I would donate at least 5 million of that.

Then I would try to scrape by with 20 million.

But not fat Donnie he wanted more and more and wanted his Freaking name everywhere.

I really hope there is a Hell Cause if there is he punched his ticket there years ago.

[Captain Zero]

61. Most major league players PITCHED in Little League thru high school too

I don't believe he was a catcher. First base maybe at the end of the game.
Maybe they had him catch batting practice for the guys who could hit above .138

[dweller]

63. nice pic here

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-world-series-first-pitch-jose-andres-903856/amp/

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