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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow is it possible?
That a nation with perhaps the strongest military in the world, with three separate branches of government, with the power to hold each of them accountable, finds itself enslaved to a tyrant and dictator wannabe?
That permits him to lie, rob, and steal, and even, to betray this nation, and they do not lift a finger to stop him?
How is it that no one can hold him accountable to the laws of our Constitution?
Because a chain is only as strong as the weakest link and a government is only as strong as its weakest branch.
At this time, the weak link in our government that prohibits any oversight and corrupts the entire function of government, is the US Senate.
The person that leads the US Senate is Mitch McConnell, Republican from Kentucky. He, even more than the tyrant in the White House, is responsible for the condition of our nation.
That is the weak link that needs to be fixed immediately.
leftieNanner
(15,628 posts)But we will have to wait until January 3, 2021. Unfortunately.
Barring anything untoward happening to Moscow Mitch.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)leftieNanner
(15,628 posts)Grokenstein
(5,808 posts)A breaking point is not achieved by every individual at once, but once it's been passed by enough people, all the niceties of civilization are pushed aside until the problem is corrected. That's the mistake so many make: presuming that some argument about hypocrisy or some dose of whataboutism is going to maintain the status quo in the monster's favor.
One might ask Benito Mussolini how that worked out for him.
former9thward
(33,336 posts)He only met his end when he had been thrown out of power by the Allies. History is actually much more full of tyrants who met peaceful ends than were overthrown.
BComplex
(8,961 posts)People are really scared of Donald Trump and Fox "news", and their ability to create an army of armed and mentally ill insurgents.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)The threat of chaos is a strong motivator to procrastinate.
calimary
(83,812 posts)EVERYWHERE that it's possible to vote for one.
We need a TOTAL housecleaning. From local to national and national to local.
Voters of America, do not fail us in November! If you do fail us in November, you'll wind up failing YOURSELVES. AS WELL.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Nothing else will work while avoiding violence.
Freddie
(9,577 posts)In their infinite wisdom, did not consider a corrupt Senate propping up their corrupt President.
Regarding the 25th Amendment, there needs to be an independent commission of physicians and mental health professionals to assess the fitness of the President to serve. As in the past, the corrupt ruling party props up an President no longer fit to serve. See Reagan, Ronald.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)If we did not accept there would be riots and the burning down of the White House and dragging him out on the street.
But instead we accept it.
And on it goes.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)I have never accepted the crooked GOP.
LymphocyteLover
(6,437 posts)world wide wally
(21,802 posts)LymphocyteLover
(6,437 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)LymphocyteLover
(6,437 posts)Amaryllis
(9,765 posts)certainly do not accept it. WHat exactly do you propose we do?
ffr
(23,052 posts)When we get into power, I don't want to hear any descension when it's our turn to return the favor and steamroll the constitution, their rights, their norms.
Until they're whining and protesting in the streets, we haven't gone far enough.
BBG
(2,938 posts)About wearing masks ffs. Better get another threshold for that whiny bunch.
KS Toronado
(19,234 posts)Why lower ourselves to their standards? We need voters to see Democrats as honest,caring, and forgiving, not as whining, protesting con artists like the republicOns are.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)That asshole is the enabler in chief to the madman in the WH.
dlk
(12,224 posts)As we are seeing, the plan has worked quite well.
BadgerMom
(2,928 posts)Thank god we have Pelosi guarding the House. People sometimes complain she hasnt accomplished enough and I wince. She and our House majority have been the one guard rail thats been strong enough to hold. God knows where wed be without them.
bucolic_frolic
(46,366 posts)The Founding Fathers studied history and certainly read a history of the Roman Empire. They must have known a Senate could become oligarchy. Perhaps they concluded sheer numbers and patriotism in the founding generation sense would prevail, and they certainly feared but could do little about the rise of party, or factions as they called them. See Federalist No. 10.
But the U.S. has removed so few from any office it's almost laughable. Crooks are more likely to quit from embarrassment than to be impeached and convicted.
kentuck
(112,491 posts)marble falls
(61,292 posts)sarge43
(29,125 posts)No walking that back.
TNNurse
(7,083 posts)if he were not in the Senate we could have had him removed....and a whole lot of other positive things.
erronis
(16,664 posts)Murdoch, Ayn Rand disciples.
LiberalArkie
(16,207 posts)EleanorR
(2,430 posts)But unfortunately he's not going anywhere.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)November is months away.
kentuck
(112,491 posts)They could impeach him again, but at what price?
The partisan divide is too far apart to bridge the divides?
It would certainly fan the flames of partisanship.
Perhaps, instead of another impeachment, they could pass a vote to censure?
It might be of great value, to get a vote by each Republican Senator, just to verify that 100% are with him? But, it would get them on the record.
A censure might not be a bad idea, considering that Herr Trump felt liberated by the last impeachment.
Think outside the box.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)What effect would that have on Trump? Could it possibly backfire and make him lash out like a cornered animal?
If by "thinking outside the box" you mean do something different but ulitimately ineffective, or perhaps something he sees as reason to dig in even more, to get Trump to "change," I don't see the point, other than it would make some people feel validated in their anxiety that "someone" is "doing something."
kentuck
(112,491 posts)...to those that think differently from you.
People need to understand the role of Mitch McConnell and the Republicans. They may agree with them and they may not?
But the purpose of a "censure" would be to force Republicans to run on what they are hiding from.
Of course, it would not require a vote from the Senate to "censure" him. But if he has earned it, give it to him.
It would be a partisan statement but that is the only language the dictator understands. It would show him that he is not beyond criticism or accountability.
Dustlawyer
(10,514 posts)They don't really need us to win their elections, just a lot of money and a lot of low information voters. Since they have destroyed public education they have everything they need!
Amaryllis
(9,765 posts)GOP hostage to do his bidding.
kentuck
(112,491 posts)Like a herd of elephants, they follow. They do not lead.
Amaryllis
(9,765 posts)quit.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,557 posts)Moscow Mitch is the one and ONLY reason Trumpy is still in power, of that there can be no doubt
If he had any real love for this country, he would have had him out in the first 18 months, but McConnell is interested in only one thing at this point: Stacking the judiciary with young, radically right wing, lifetime appointments.
He knows for sure, that the demographics in this country are shifting, and that the days of the popularity of conservative political ideology are numbered. The only way he can stem the tidal wave of shifting public opinion headed right for him and others like him, is to stack the courts with ideologues who will rule in a way they want, despite public opinion to the contrary.
Wolves ov Siberia
(15 posts)Racism, sexism, and oligarchs buying politicians. It is that simple, imho...
Skittles
(157,676 posts)that's how it is possible
TNNurse
(7,083 posts)Tumbulu
(6,431 posts)about liberals, and bad government and everything else. Then Fox News started on TV and it was all amplified.
And not challenged.
Those of us who have been picked on and scared of these bullies our adult lives were ignored by our urban friends and families.
But now, they whole nation is being held hostage by these forces of evil.
And evil they are.
Get rid of hate AM radio for starters!