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applegrove

(118,462 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:21 AM Sep 2012

This guy who made the anti-islamic film was obviously a psychopath

with many aliases. Psychopaths love to diminish people's lives and see people "fall". What is to stop some other psychopaths from creating more hatefull propaganda, resulting in deaths around the world, to please themselves?

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This guy who made the anti-islamic film was obviously a psychopath (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2012 OP
As I read your post I'm seeing an ad for meeting a pretty Thai girl. Off topic,but virgogal Sep 2012 #1
?? I don't understand...oh you mean the ads here on the DU. Yes those applegrove Sep 2012 #2
I think it was because the girl pictured looked so young to me---the age of virgogal Sep 2012 #11
There are several threads in Meta about the Thai brides jberryhill Sep 2012 #13
Given what all has been written, are we even sure if he is the person behind it? ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #3
Come on the whole thing was a joke, amateurish.... physioex Sep 2012 #4
At least 14 people are dead. When that Terry Jones threatened to burn applegrove Sep 2012 #6
He was on United States soil..... physioex Sep 2012 #8
That is food for thought. Maybe the weakness, the internet, that allows applegrove Sep 2012 #17
It's not just the USA... physioex Sep 2012 #21
You do realize that "psychopath" has a medical definition... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #5
I have life experience unfortunately. applegrove Sep 2012 #7
We're relying on media reports of his acts and character MercutioATC Sep 2012 #9
Sometimes labels are the only way to describe someone accurately. applegrove Sep 2012 #12
Honestly, we don't know if that was his motivatiuon MercutioATC Sep 2012 #14
I heard tonight he had almost 20 aliases. applegrove Sep 2012 #15
With all those aliases and indictments, a mugshot of this guy is nowhere to be found. Segami Sep 2012 #16
I really don't want to get contentious, but what difference does that make? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #18
I'm talking about the type of people who get a kick out of causing applegrove Sep 2012 #19
He didn't kill people. Why emilyg Sep 2012 #20
I agree with your impressions, and possibly your conclusion. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #22
As well as a colloquial definition ashling Sep 2012 #10
He's kind of like the global version of an internet troll. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #23

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
2. ?? I don't understand...oh you mean the ads here on the DU. Yes those
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:32 AM
Sep 2012

mailorder bride things are really disturbing. Clicked on one of them by mistake just the other day. I've known of and know people who have gone abroad and fallen in love. I've also met people who were in an arranged marriage. And that didn't work out. Though the woman seemed lovely. Love is often in the air when people are on vacation or travelling. I'm trying to get my brother to travel and fall in love. He's a good egg. But no. I would not suggest he or anyone else I cared about answer such ads. There is nothing scarier than manipulative people to get back to my original post. And the internet does seem to offer up a host of new opportunities for them to exploit others .....one way or another.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
11. I think it was because the girl pictured looked so young to me---the age of
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:48 AM
Sep 2012

several of my grandaughters.

Again,sorry for the intrusion to your post.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. Given what all has been written, are we even sure if he is the person behind it?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:33 AM
Sep 2012

Yes it appears he worked on it (tonite), but who knows what will be the hot data in the AM.

physioex

(6,890 posts)
4. Come on the whole thing was a joke, amateurish....
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:34 AM
Sep 2012

And pretty horribly done. Oddly I kinda found it funny in a Mel Brooks sort of way.

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
6. At least 14 people are dead. When that Terry Jones threatened to burn
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:42 AM
Sep 2012

a Koran people knew it could result in deaths in the middle east. This guy would have known too - being from there. It is no joke.

physioex

(6,890 posts)
8. He was on United States soil.....
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:46 AM
Sep 2012

And I would defend a persons right to make this type of film. This is not the first time something like this has happened, the Satanic Versus had a similar response. What should we have done with Salman Rushdie?

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
17. That is food for thought. Maybe the weakness, the internet, that allows
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:07 AM
Sep 2012

these distant slurs to get to the heart of the middle east will result in desensitizing people there in the end. I don't know what the answer is but I do think we should be having the discussion. Incidentally we do have hate laws in Canada. I know you have free speech in the USA. I am not advocating repealling that. I'm just saying.... perhaps the FBI, can scare the bejeebies out anyone who will follow? Our would that be under the CIA mandate? Cause apparently the trouble Terry Jones started didn't teach anybody anything.

physioex

(6,890 posts)
21. It's not just the USA...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:29 AM
Sep 2012

There was some Danish magazine that published pictures of Mohammed again with a similar response. I do agree with you of sorts on Terry Jones because he did that in a religious context. Even conservatives pleaded with him no to go through with this, but in the end I suppose I would have to defend his rights as well.

But the ultimate goal would be to desensitize Muslims because there really is no turning back...

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
5. You do realize that "psychopath" has a medical definition...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:37 AM
Sep 2012

You have an M.D.?

He's an ass, but I don't know him well enough to diagnose him (nor do I have the medical qualifications).

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
9. We're relying on media reports of his acts and character
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:47 AM
Sep 2012

Regardless of my personal feelings on the subject, I'd never attempt to medically diagnose him.

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
12. Sometimes labels are the only way to describe someone accurately.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:50 AM
Sep 2012

I was worried that other people like him, people who get a kick out of taking from others and seeing people die, who are all psychopaths, would follow his behaviour for their own pleasure. There are sadistic people out there. They exist. How do we talk about them and the issues they bring up if we cannot use the proper vocabulary?

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
14. Honestly, we don't know if that was his motivatiuon
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:02 AM
Sep 2012

Based on media reports (which may or may not be accurate) he did what he did in opposition of Muslims killing people (honestly, that's the best explanation the media has proposed).

I'm simply suggesting that media reports can be inaccurate and none of us really know. Before randomly labeling him a psychopath, I think that we need to know more about him.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
16. With all those aliases and indictments, a mugshot of this guy is nowhere to be found.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:07 AM
Sep 2012

Does anyone have a photo of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula?

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
18. I really don't want to get contentious, but what difference does that make?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:10 AM
Sep 2012

Having multiple identities does not make one a "psychopath"....and many "psychopaths" do not have multiple identities.

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
19. I'm talking about the type of people who get a kick out of causing
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:17 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:02 AM - Edit history (1)

the death of many others. I'm assuming the producer made this film knowing it would provoke outrage. He lied to the actors and dubbed in words, that were not in the script, later. He knew he was up to no good. Maybe he just wanted to become famous in right wing circles and get money that way (cause if you speak up & get famous on the far right there is an instant money tree that will shake money all over you). But there is enough information out there that it likely would result in the death of people in the middle east. Psychopath. He knew to hide what he was doing from the actors. He made it available online when it was dubbed. How do we stop other psychopaths from following his cue resulting in the murder of many is my question.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
22. I agree with your impressions, and possibly your conclusion.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:35 AM
Sep 2012

My point is that our information has solely come from the media that we so frequently criticize.

(I also think that this was more of a bigotry/religious thing than a "right wing" political thing)

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