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So, we just found out that 30M Americans lost their jobs in a month, and the DOW is up 300 points (Original Post) maxrandb May 2020 OP
The stock market is Wall Street, not Main Street. panader0 May 2020 #1
Wall Street is corrupt. SamKnause May 2020 #2
K&R ck4829 May 2020 #3
Pork belly futures, there's a tip Baclava May 2020 #4
I Have A Hot Tip On Frozen Concentrated Orange Juice nt sfstaxprep May 2020 #6
That's a trend I've noticed for a long time. captain queeg May 2020 #5
The 1% are salivating about all the cheap labor that will be available maxrandb May 2020 #12
All trump supporters should now invest heavily in it, duforsure May 2020 #7
"So, we just found out that 30M Americans " DrToast May 2020 #8
Stock market is up because states are reopening and they expect things to Doodley May 2020 #9
That's the excuse but its big money poring into FAANG vs the feds because they don't want to pay uponit7771 May 2020 #11
K&R,Be careful A lot of funds are moving big money into NASDAQ stay home stocks like Facebook, uponit7771 May 2020 #10
It won't last SoonerPride May 2020 #13
Wall Street has realized they no longer need American workers or American consumers. Midnight Writer May 2020 #14
My brother says the fed is propping it up ecstatic May 2020 #15
This is true SouthernCal_Dem May 2020 #16
Fed has pumped from 43-48% of 2020 GDP into the bond markets MoonlitKnight May 2020 #19
years ago, on a NPR show, it said wall street thrives on bad. pansypoo53219 May 2020 #17
14.7% Unemployment and the Stock Market is up 340 points maxrandb May 2020 #18
By the way MoonlitKnight May 2020 #20

panader0

(25,816 posts)
1. The stock market is Wall Street, not Main Street.
Thu May 7, 2020, 09:58 AM
May 2020

It's a poker game for the rich. That the DOW can go up and down on whims
show it's irrelevancy in measuring what real people do.

maxrandb

(15,295 posts)
12. The 1% are salivating about all the cheap labor that will be available
Thu May 7, 2020, 11:36 AM
May 2020

When people will work for peanuts so they don't completely starve.

Please sir, may I have some more

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
7. All trump supporters should now invest heavily in it,
Thu May 7, 2020, 10:50 AM
May 2020

If they trust trump, lol, then when it crashes maybe then they'll wake up and realize he is the one causing this nightmare.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
8. "So, we just found out that 30M Americans "
Thu May 7, 2020, 10:57 AM
May 2020

No we didn't. We learned that over the last few weeks and it's been known that would happen for even longer.

Why are you trying to correlate the two things?

Doodley

(9,036 posts)
9. Stock market is up because states are reopening and they expect things to
Thu May 7, 2020, 11:03 AM
May 2020

return to normal. Ain't gonna happen.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
11. That's the excuse but its big money poring into FAANG vs the feds because they don't want to pay
Thu May 7, 2020, 11:16 AM
May 2020

... the US to keep their money.

If those five stocks sneeze the rest of the indexes will get pneumonia and people are going to get face smashed.

Right now the NASDAQ is positive for the year, on CNBC they're shaking their heads at the stupidity of preasurizing those five stocks cause if anything goes sideways people are going to get screwed.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
10. K&R,Be careful A lot of funds are moving big money into NASDAQ stay home stocks like Facebook,
Thu May 7, 2020, 11:13 AM
May 2020

... Amazon, apple, netflix and Google (FAANG) and if these stocks sneeze the rest of the worlds markets will get a cold.

Big funds aren't making money in treasuries or even paying the US to keep money so this is all they got

Midnight Writer

(21,708 posts)
14. Wall Street has realized they no longer need American workers or American consumers.
Thu May 7, 2020, 04:11 PM
May 2020

They can buy cheaper labor elsewhere and sell more products elsewhere.

SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
16. This is true
Thu May 7, 2020, 04:32 PM
May 2020

The Fed is buying US treasuries, investment grade corporate debt, and even junk bonds (high yield).

I think they've pumped at least $4 trillion into this buying program.

Financial institutions sell these securities to the Fed and that money then goes into the stock market. That's why we're almost at record valuations based on forward p/e.

In other words, stocks are more overvalued now than ever as corporate earning are projected to collapse over the next year.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
19. Fed has pumped from 43-48% of 2020 GDP into the bond markets
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:16 AM
May 2020

This is from April 24

“ As a proportion of nominal GDP, the Fed’s balance sheet was 19% in 4Q19, the ECB’s at 39%, the BoE at 26% and the BoJ at 105%. At the time of writing, the Fed’s balance sheet has already increased to the equivalent of 32% of estimated 2020 GDP with a commitment to open–ended QE purchases and a recent announcement of an additional USD2.3 trillion (11% of GDP) credit facility for business lending. We see the Fed balance sheet – on a broad basis including QE and other components – reaching about USD10 trillion by year-end.”

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/sovereigns/economics-dashboard-central-bank-balance-sheets-central-banks-balance-sheets-surge-on-coronavirus-crisis-24-04-2020

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
20. By the way
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:42 AM
May 2020

June WTI options expire on Thursday next week. It will be interesting to see if we have a repeat of last month’s negative price.

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