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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, we just found out that 30M Americans lost their jobs in a month, and the DOW is up 300 points
Can we please stop using the Stock Market to measure the strength of the economy?
panader0
(25,816 posts)It's a poker game for the rich. That the DOW can go up and down on whims
show it's irrelevancy in measuring what real people do.
SamKnause
(13,087 posts)A ponzi scheme run by unethical people who control the world.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)captain queeg
(10,089 posts)Maybe getting rid of employees is considered good business.
maxrandb
(15,295 posts)When people will work for peanuts so they don't completely starve.
Please sir, may I have some more
duforsure
(11,884 posts)If they trust trump, lol, then when it crashes maybe then they'll wake up and realize he is the one causing this nightmare.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)No we didn't. We learned that over the last few weeks and it's been known that would happen for even longer.
Why are you trying to correlate the two things?
Doodley
(9,036 posts)return to normal. Ain't gonna happen.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... the US to keep their money.
If those five stocks sneeze the rest of the indexes will get pneumonia and people are going to get face smashed.
Right now the NASDAQ is positive for the year, on CNBC they're shaking their heads at the stupidity of preasurizing those five stocks cause if anything goes sideways people are going to get screwed.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... Amazon, apple, netflix and Google (FAANG) and if these stocks sneeze the rest of the worlds markets will get a cold.
Big funds aren't making money in treasuries or even paying the US to keep money so this is all they got
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,708 posts)They can buy cheaper labor elsewhere and sell more products elsewhere.
ecstatic
(32,648 posts)by pumping trillions of dollars into it.
SouthernCal_Dem
(852 posts)The Fed is buying US treasuries, investment grade corporate debt, and even junk bonds (high yield).
I think they've pumped at least $4 trillion into this buying program.
Financial institutions sell these securities to the Fed and that money then goes into the stock market. That's why we're almost at record valuations based on forward p/e.
In other words, stocks are more overvalued now than ever as corporate earning are projected to collapse over the next year.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)This is from April 24
As a proportion of nominal GDP, the Feds balance sheet was 19% in 4Q19, the ECBs at 39%, the BoE at 26% and the BoJ at 105%. At the time of writing, the Feds balance sheet has already increased to the equivalent of 32% of estimated 2020 GDP with a commitment to openended QE purchases and a recent announcement of an additional USD2.3 trillion (11% of GDP) credit facility for business lending. We see the Fed balance sheet on a broad basis including QE and other components reaching about USD10 trillion by year-end.
https://www.fitchratings.com/research/sovereigns/economics-dashboard-central-bank-balance-sheets-central-banks-balance-sheets-surge-on-coronavirus-crisis-24-04-2020
pansypoo53219
(20,952 posts)maxrandb
(15,295 posts)MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)June WTI options expire on Thursday next week. It will be interesting to see if we have a repeat of last months negative price.