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brooklynite

(94,510 posts)
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:07 AM May 2020

The Trailer: I signed up as a Trump supporter, then a Biden supporter. Here's what happened next.

Washington Post

On the 48th day of quarantine, as traditional presidential campaigning became a gauzy memory, I immersed myself in the worlds created by the campaigns of Joe Biden and President Trump. I downloaded both campaigns' apps — TeamJoe and Trump 2020, respectively — and agreed to get notifications. I created a Twitter list consisting of nothing but official campaign accounts and checked in a few times a day. What I found: The Republican effort was designed to keep supporters energized, inspired and sometimes angry. The Democratic effort was genteel and gave me much less to do.


Signing up for the Trump app subscribed me to not one, but two automated text chains. The first came in from the Trump campaign within seconds of sign-up, informing me that I had just gotten “Reward Access Unlocked,” thus qualifying me to “earn points & meet Pres Trump during the campaign in fall.” One minute later, the Republican National Committee thanked me for joining the “team,” and asked whether I could let the president “know what you think of this week's accomplishments.”

Following the first link took me back to the Trump campaign page; following the second gave me a yes or no poll on whether I approved of the president, with space to write about why. I didn’t go further than that, but two hours later, the RNC texted with news: “You were 1 of the 25 President Trump selected for a 5X-MATCH EXTENSION! The other 24 patriots already donated, now it's your turn.”


All of that happened within two hours. The Biden campaign did not contact me until seven hours after I’d downloaded the app, finally texting me in the late afternoon. “It's Joe Biden and I owe you my sincere thanks, David,” the account wrote. “You all have been so great to this campaign.” (You all?) “I've been calling donors and it's so great to thank people personally. I'm calling more this week who are helping us start May strong. If you aren't a May donor yet, you can chip in here and I might be calling you soon.”


Following that link, I was offered a shot at “a video call from Joe” and told that the “average gift is only $25.” A form to fill in an exact donation amount was left blank; a box that would make this a one-time donation, not a recurring one, was already checked.

Over the next few days, it was easy to forget that the Biden app existed. Push texts were infrequent, and unlike the Trump app, the Biden app didn't let me track virtual campaign events. (That was on the website.) TeamJoe offered me a few options and news items, all of which directed me from the app back to the campaign website. For 24 hours, the top news item was a new Biden campaign pledge, which I could take, committing myself to “empathy,” “keeping the faith,” “humility,” and “no malarkey,” among other nice things. If I wanted to volunteer, the app made it easier, but not addictive.




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The Trailer: I signed up as a Trump supporter, then a Biden supporter. Here's what happened next. (Original Post) brooklynite May 2020 OP
Trump camp is super aggressive, that alone would completely turn me off. dewsgirl May 2020 #1
Trump campaign is automated and was built by the same scammers Ford_Prefect May 2020 #18
This just seems boring and annoying JI7 May 2020 #2
What They Said. lindysalsagal May 2020 #3
I get text after text after text from the Biden campaign Vogon_Glory May 2020 #4
That's been my experience, also Dave in VA May 2020 #8
Agreed, I get ... aggiesal May 2020 #17
Same here, but mine go directly to mu spam folder. SergeStorms May 2020 #23
Interesting project. It illustrates how he energize his base dreamland May 2020 #5
Joe needs to step it up Phoenix61 May 2020 #6
Who is the Democratic "Brad Parscale?" Light63 May 2020 #9
Totally agree. The best time to kick a POS Phoenix61 May 2020 #24
I've noticed the very low-push Democratic side also, Hortensis May 2020 #7
Democrats had better get their heads out of the sand. overleft May 2020 #10
Welcome to DU, overleft. calimary May 2020 #19
I thought the Obama team on-line were the best at the time...... a kennedy May 2020 #11
Being over confident can lead to a Trump victory. UCmeNdc May 2020 #12
The Biden app NEEDS to track virtual campaign events. Biggest oversight ever! Native May 2020 #13
I have been invited and notified and reminded of every virtual event...they do need to work on their Demsrule86 May 2020 #16
So that is a function of the app? I thought the OP said it wasn't. Native May 2020 #25
Based on what I've seen, I'm not surprised by this. I see a hell of a lot more stuff pushed KPN May 2020 #14
I have constant messages from Biden...today they offered free stuff... Demsrule86 May 2020 #15
I get several messages a day from Biden's camp. But I just accidentally... northoftheborder May 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Wawannabe May 2020 #21
I don't get the point of this. I've gotten at least four push texts a day from the Biden campaign. ancianita May 2020 #22

Ford_Prefect

(7,894 posts)
18. Trump campaign is automated and was built by the same scammers
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:48 AM
May 2020

who sold your parents or Grand parents Time shares they could never quite use but had to pay for through the nose. They are masters at motivating and zealous guilting. They know just how to push your buttons to get the money or get under your skin.

It is a massive PR operation funded by the money Trump's pals saved on taxes, got in the no-bid contracts or the bailouts.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
2. This just seems boring and annoying
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:14 AM
May 2020

Democrats are not like Republicans and would most likely get annoyed with push notifications and being contacted all the time. people already always complain about emails asking for donations which they can easily delete .

this seems to work with republicans because they don't do much else. Same reason talk radio is popular with republicans but not with democratic leaning types .

All the Trump crap just seems like Trump MAGA Fanatics kissing his ass .




lindysalsagal

(20,678 posts)
3. What They Said.
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:17 AM
May 2020

Dems aren't sheep, and we're not children. We don't need to be sold. We have hundreds of reasons to support the Vice President.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
4. I get text after text after text from the Biden campaign
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:37 AM
May 2020

Three to four parters. Daily.

However I tend to send contributions by mail.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
17. Agreed, I get ...
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:42 AM
May 2020

at least 1 text each day, but more like, anywhere between 2-4 texts per day.

I'm sick of it.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
23. Same here, but mine go directly to mu spam folder.
Fri May 8, 2020, 12:26 PM
May 2020

I give monthly to 5 democrats, but they all treat me like I'm a new fish, waiting to be caught. We need to get the damned money out of politics. It's incredibly annoying and time draining.

dreamland

(964 posts)
5. Interesting project. It illustrates how he energize his base
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:37 AM
May 2020

They are not looking for thinking people. They are looking for those who like to feel like they are winning something. It's using a gambler's profile of addiction to win a prize which is to get the Turd on the Throne. They made theFatass their prize goal.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
6. Joe needs to step it up
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:42 AM
May 2020

Thank you should be sent as close to immediately as possible. New content weekly for now, daily as we get closer to the election. Alerts accordingly with the option to pick what you want. Option for e-mail or text. The hardest group to motivate are the youth and they are they ones we desperately need to get to the polls. They live by/on their phones.

Light63

(233 posts)
9. Who is the Democratic "Brad Parscale?"
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:55 AM
May 2020

I’ve also experienced the lack of pushes and motifications from Joe. We need to step up big time now, especially when Trump is being seen and portraited negatively by the majority. I understand the whole country is going through tough times, but the gloves need to be taken off. Joe needs to go after Trump more.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
24. Totally agree. The best time to kick a POS
Fri May 8, 2020, 12:36 PM
May 2020

is when they are down. Much easier to keep them there then.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. I've noticed the very low-push Democratic side also,
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:54 AM
May 2020

to the point that I had to go search, even after signing up to be on the email list, for Biden's live podcasts. I expected a lot more emails period than an un-overwhelming 5 or so a day from 3 Biden-campaign addresses. Those don't include all the other Democratic-related organizations, of course, but it's a huge drop-off from the influx during the primaries.

Email reaches older people a lot more, and it may be we older Democrats are believed too solid to have good returns on trying to aggravate us into some -- any -- kind of action.

Generally speaking, though, this seems to be a continuation of the kind of campaigning aimed at most Americans that kept Biden as the lone frontrunner, way above all others, from before the beginning to now. (We now know IA and NH gave people a very mistaken idea of what was really happening.)

overleft

(356 posts)
10. Democrats had better get their heads out of the sand.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:00 AM
May 2020

They need to be much more aggressive and maybe not so damned polite. We need these repugnant retrumplican crooks out out there and asap.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
19. Welcome to DU, overleft.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

I agree.

Joe needs to be OUT THERE. Maybe holding a fireside chat every evening. OR morning. OR something. It's been WAY too quiet.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
11. I thought the Obama team on-line were the best at the time......
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:03 AM
May 2020

why couldn’t the Biden team use that as a example??

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
12. Being over confident can lead to a Trump victory.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:13 AM
May 2020

The Democratic party strategist are too slow on the uptake. They act like they have everything covered. They better figure out how to create an energy that captures the Democratic voters attention and do not stop pushing and pulling until the election is over.

Native

(5,942 posts)
13. The Biden app NEEDS to track virtual campaign events. Biggest oversight ever!
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:19 AM
May 2020

Especially since "virtual" is all we've got! I'm dumbfounded they've overlooked this.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
16. I have been invited and notified and reminded of every virtual event...they do need to work on their
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:40 AM
May 2020

internet.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
14. Based on what I've seen, I'm not surprised by this. I see a hell of a lot more stuff pushed
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:33 AM
May 2020

out by tRump; it's ubiquitous it seems whereas I see little from Joe. Does or will it matter? I'm thinking certainly, but why even leave that to chance?

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
20. I get several messages a day from Biden's camp. But I just accidentally...
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:55 AM
May 2020

....found out about his podcasts....there was a link on his website, but it wasn't obvious. Also it would be nice to be informed by the campaign when he is going to go on a news show, surely they have that information ahead of time. (I don't keep the TV on all day). I think more than one text a day is annoying, unless it is actually informing.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

ancianita

(36,032 posts)
22. I don't get the point of this. I've gotten at least four push texts a day from the Biden campaign.
Fri May 8, 2020, 12:19 PM
May 2020

Several FB posts per day on FB. Auto-messaging on FB, too. Surveys, team meetings, live call sessions. For months.

We already know there will always be differences in Republican and Democratic campaigning, content and style. We already know there are supposed to be differences in the parties due to the world outlooks of their members.

What is the point of a comparison of two candidates' online push presence -- an academic exercise? to say that difference equals deficit?

We're into May of a major deadly global pandemic with millions living through stay-at-home advice from scientists, trying to get past sickness and death.

My take on all this is Parscale/Trump online busy-ness campaign is exactly that -- to deflect from this fakeass president's utter ruination of millions of American lives, half of whom are his voters. There's nothing in the Parscale method that hides the death all around, the destroyed government, destroyed foreign standing, the banal evil of driving Americans down

As for Biden: We all ought to know that you don't get out there and stump when your opponent is completely wrecking everything. It's the "please proceed" tactic.


Whatever the point of this WaPo piece, it's not time to worry, stress ourselves, or let the so-called perfect be the enemy of the good.

Biden, Bloomberg, Obama and their teams got this.




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