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James48

(4,429 posts)
2. It's actually better than expected.
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:22 AM
May 2020

The previous weekly reports would have had the end of April number at 700,000 MORE unemployed than what this number says.

(22 million unemployed, vs. what should have said 22.7 million)

So it’s actually better than anticipated.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
5. two things
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:26 AM
May 2020

The stock market is totally disconnected from real-life.

also

They probably figure when it "come back" a lot of these jobs won't, therefore lowering companies operating ratio. Investors like less employees because less employees = less expense.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
6. I still think the market high won't last.
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:27 AM
May 2020

The disconnect between its performance and the overall economy won't continue.

Sell now if you can.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
7. I think there's a lot of wishful thinking going on there.
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

That's not going to last forever. It's also being artificially inflated by the nothing interest rates, and the Fed pumping in trillions.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
11. There was an interesting 'lesson' on markets with the negative oil prices.
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:55 AM
May 2020

Even rw cramer was trying to reach out to naïve, inexperienced speculators.

The lesson was that certainly oil prices would not remain negative, or even quite low, and would go up - 'at some point'. Making money on those low prices, entails much more than recognizing a low price. Making money on an obvious low price, is very different from noticing a 'low price'. Experience on how markets actually operate helps a great deal. The market is quite good at, 'shearing naïve sheep.'

An old market truism, is that the market frustrates a maximum number of 'investors'.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
12. So many "investors" are actually computer run market algorithms these days, sky net is in charge
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:59 AM
May 2020

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. During the 1929 crash an depression . ..
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:36 AM
May 2020

I've read it took approx. 5 months inorder for the stock market to catch up to reality.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
13. Important point. I would say it took [5?] months to start to catch up to economic
Fri May 8, 2020, 12:01 PM
May 2020

realities. Market emotional realities have their own paths to travel.

[Keep an eye on the gold market boomlet. Related indices are not confirming gold market booms being heavily promoted these days].

judeling

(1,086 posts)
10. Hopium
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:38 AM
May 2020

The markets are concentrating on two things in the report that are feeding the hope of a quick recovery.
First it wasn't quite as bad as was expected 20M vs 23M.
Second that 18m of that 20m are saying it is temporary. That is a furlough and easier to recover from.

Also a tremendous amount of Market gains have been over represented in some Big Cap tech names.

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