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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:41 AM May 2020

Sweet Tomatoes will close permanently

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/sweet-tomatoes-to-stay-closed-permanently-report-says.amp
ORLANDO, Fla. - Sweet Tomatoes will be keeping their door closed permanently after shutting down during the coronavirus pandemic, according to reports.

The buffet chain's parent company reportedly decided to close all 97 locations of Souplantation and Sweet Tomatoes, including those in Florida. CEO John Haywood confirmed to the San Diego Union-Tribune on Thursday, People reported.

The move will affect more than 4,000 employees who will essentially be laid off.

...

Haywood said the company has been losing about $1 million a week after shutting down in mid-March due to the global pandemic.


$1 million/wk seems like small tomatoes, er, potatoes

But. As I’ve said before re: possible other companies (esp those undeserving of a bailout), someone else will buy up the assets and reopen as something else
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Sweet Tomatoes will close permanently (Original Post) Roland99 May 2020 OP
Lived in AK all of my adult life. Arthur_Frain May 2020 #1
Biggest problem with the buffet model that I see Cirque du So-What May 2020 #4
You know, they deal with this on cruise ships all of the time SoCalNative May 2020 #5
Pretty big 'if' Cirque du So-What May 2020 #6
It wouldn't be extra servers SoCalNative May 2020 #7
Well that's the one guarantee you can take away from all of this, unfortunately. Arthur_Frain May 2020 #10
There are other issues with buffet lines. Arthur_Frain May 2020 #9
It's possible. Igel May 2020 #2
Damn. I liked them. Tommy_Carcetti May 2020 #3
Buffet model is dead BGBD May 2020 #8
Buffets are getting hit hard. Many have turned to selling food by weight for takeout. Progressive Law May 2020 #11
Lock down the country and of course this will happen. jimfields33 May 2020 #12

Arthur_Frain

(1,839 posts)
1. Lived in AK all of my adult life.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:01 AM
May 2020

Souplantation and Sweet Tomatoes were “must stops/first stops” anytime I visited the lower 48.

In the mid to late 80s, Wendy’s had destroyed their premium salad bar by turning it into a “power bar” with tacos, and potatoes, and spaghetti, and pizza. There was only one other option there in Anchorage for a salad bar, and it was tiny, expensive, and hit or miss.

Over the course of 2 decades, the beginning of relaxation for every visit would generally hit me as I was enjoying a wonderful salad across the table from my mom at Souplantation. A ritual that will now never be repeated.

This is one of the things that we have lost forever due to the Covid-19 event. I don’t think I’ll ever again visit the buffet line even.

I wonder about Golden Corral. They’ve got the “screw u” attitude to bull ahead anyway for awhile, but I wonder at this point if the buffet restaurant is a totally failed business model?

Cirque du So-What

(25,908 posts)
4. Biggest problem with the buffet model that I see
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:21 AM
May 2020

is the utensil for moving food from the container onto the customer's plate. Unless it's replaced constantly, it gets touched by many people. Will the restaurant provide sanitary gloves for each patron? Nowadays, there are too many peckerwoods who would complain that their personal freedoms were being violated. I doubt a corporate entity like Golden Corral would spring for additional employees to dispense portions wearing appropriate PPE.

Once restaurants reopen, I won't be visiting a buffet-style establishment for a while. A long while.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
5. You know, they deal with this on cruise ships all of the time
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:28 AM
May 2020

with the frequent noro and rotovirus outbreaks.

They keep the buffet open but patrons touch nothing. Plates and utensils are handed to you and the food is served by staff that stand at the various buffet stations. Even drinks are poured and served to you by staff.

So it seems that the buffet model could survive if the companies followed this course of action.

Cirque du So-What

(25,908 posts)
6. Pretty big 'if'
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:33 AM
May 2020

Corporate restaurants are so mindful of profit margins that I can't envision them eating the cost of extra servers. They'll raise costs, assuredly.

Arthur_Frain

(1,839 posts)
10. Well that's the one guarantee you can take away from all of this, unfortunately.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:58 AM
May 2020

We will be footing the bill for whatever adjustments they make in the end.

Arthur_Frain

(1,839 posts)
9. There are other issues with buffet lines.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:57 AM
May 2020

The person behind me is usually breathing down my neck. 6 foot distancing in buffet lines isn’t going to work in greater ‘murica, I don’t think. Despite all of our armed citizens’ protestations to the contrary, we are not a very polite society. The “dick” moves I've seen people pull in buffet lines before don’t bode well for so called “social” distancing.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
2. It's possible.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:03 AM
May 2020

But most corporations have lost money.

And when they go to borrow, they're going to be competing for investor dollars.

More than likely there's going to be a downturn as the people who were most likely to eat out become those most afraid of COVID--those making money will find that they have more because they're spending half to a third as much on some meals, but service workers and the businesses that employed them will lose out.

This will cause some structural problems in the economy, as less skilled and less educated workers suddenly find that not only did we offshore manufacturing for better air and cheaper stuff here but now there's less demand for them dicing us onions and preparing our coffee.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
3. Damn. I liked them.
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:05 AM
May 2020

They had a great salad selection and interesting selection of pastas, breads and soups.

My kids loved the place and always wanted us to take them there.

Ironically, it was one of the last restaurants I ate in before the shutdown.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
8. Buffet model is dead
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:37 AM
May 2020

It can't work now.

Only two options I see for buffets would be to remove ability for public to get food directly and station servers behind the bars to hand it out as patrons come up.

or

Do it Brazillian steakhouse style where servers are constantly circulating with trays of certain foods to offer to tables.

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