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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri May 8, 2020, 12:51 PM May 2020

Larry Charles on the Trump pandemic response; it's dark, but likely spot-on 👀



Larry Charles ✔@larrycharlesism

Who knows how it started but if you don’t think the Trump regime’s response to the pandemic is some sort of a calculated racist final solution you are naive.

12:43 PM - May 8, 2020


Wow. Yeah, he might be right. I can clearly imagine Stephen Miller having that conversation.
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Larry Charles on the Trump pandemic response; it's dark, but likely spot-on 👀 (Original Post) Dennis Donovan May 2020 OP
It May be planned by those under Trump but Trump himself can't "Calculate. Under The Radar May 2020 #1
I don't think it was planned spinbaby May 2020 #3
Let us say they took advantage of the situation at hand rurallib May 2020 #2
+1 progressoid May 2020 #10
Say it anyway gratuitous May 2020 #4
Apply The LBJ "Pig-F*cker" Rule -- Make Them Deny It nt smb May 2020 #6
Exactly THIS! We have to stop being squeamish about playing dirty - it's the only way to deal with scarletwoman May 2020 #27
Funny isn't how FF45 babbles about America first.... Thomas Hurt May 2020 #5
I think it's incompetence Renew Deal May 2020 #7
yeah Cosmocat May 2020 #12
It's magic. It's like Dick Cheney, etc. were looking for an excuse to invade Iraq & poof, 9/11. rickyhall May 2020 #8
To be fair.. Mercurian May 2020 #20
I recall in the campaign bucolic_frolic May 2020 #9
Interpretation: Ethnic cleansing. CaptYossarian May 2020 #23
The realization that others recall and see the connection is heartwarming bucolic_frolic May 2020 #25
Thanks. All the DUers have that similar trait. CaptYossarian May 2020 #29
less racist than someone convincing him they could use it like ebola 2014 certainot May 2020 #11
I'm pretty sure that if it were white evangelicals instead of POC who were dying disproportionately renate May 2020 #13
... and now Miller's wife has the virus! RainCaster May 2020 #14
Don't Miss the Forest for the Trees citizen blues May 2020 #15
Excellent post - thank you! (nt) scarletwoman May 2020 #28
Final solution to the poor, to the working class, to minorities and to the USA. lark May 2020 #16
I believe Larry Charles is on target. abakan May 2020 #17
Bannon and Miller, yes. I can totally see them having this discussion. PatrickforO May 2020 #18
And to think, Eisenhower warned us about this 60 years ago. CaptYossarian May 2020 #26
Of course... I don't think they can even imagine ihaveaquestion May 2020 #19
Question Traildogbob May 2020 #21
They call that "taking one for the team" n/t Dennis Donovan May 2020 #24
Agree. ananda May 2020 #22
Could be Putin's virus -- we know he's racist, hates China's power, hates the U.S. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #30

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
1. It May be planned by those under Trump but Trump himself can't "Calculate.
Fri May 8, 2020, 01:00 PM
May 2020

I know Trump is too ignorant to develop a strategic plan and certainly has no discipline to follow through with one. But he is easily manipulated through his ignorance by more intelligent but cunning and evil advisors.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
3. I don't think it was planned
Fri May 8, 2020, 01:11 PM
May 2020

That we’re getting dead old people, poor people, and minorities just happens to align with Republican values.

rurallib

(62,414 posts)
2. Let us say they took advantage of the situation at hand
Fri May 8, 2020, 01:10 PM
May 2020

At least that was my interpretation of the order for meat packing plants to stay open as their infection rates exploded. Especially since the workers in meat packing is heavily Hispanic.

Final solution? I think more like yet another shot to let POC that they are not considered real citizens.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
27. Exactly THIS! We have to stop being squeamish about playing dirty - it's the only way to deal with
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:06 PM
May 2020

these fascist assholes.

Absolutely - make the accusation and make them deny it.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. Funny isn't how FF45 babbles about America first....
Fri May 8, 2020, 01:15 PM
May 2020

and not being the world's policeman and how we pay an unfair share in international efforts, blah, blah, blah.

And yet

The sovereign nation of China was supposed to save the whole world from a pandemic.

Hypocritical and delusional.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
12. yeah
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:41 PM
May 2020

Scorpion and Frog.

They have two singular priorities - graft as much as humanly possible and win reelection at any cost.

They only know a few tricks.

Bull shitting, playing the victim and attacking and lying and cheating.

They literally don't care one minuscule bit about actually governing or public policy.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
8. It's magic. It's like Dick Cheney, etc. were looking for an excuse to invade Iraq & poof, 9/11.
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:22 PM
May 2020

Remember the Maine, the Reichstag fire, Gulf of Tonkin, etc.

Mercurian

(48 posts)
20. To be fair..
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:22 PM
May 2020

Coal bunker fires, while not common, were not unknown on warships of the time. Neither were catastrophic ammunition explosions. It wasn't until after WWI that more stable explosives came into use.
That said, was the explosion of the USS Maine politically useful? Absolutely.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
9. I recall in the campaign
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:32 PM
May 2020

Trump promised to make the "ghettos" safe again. I don't remember if the word "clean" was used, as in "clean out", but it was something I remember distinctly. I think this was around April 2016. a few weeks after he gave the "my African American" reference to a man at one of his rallies.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
23. Interpretation: Ethnic cleansing.
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:55 PM
May 2020

That's what makes Stephen Miller's wife's infection better.

She probably won't go out like Eva Braun did, but the other parallels are there.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
29. Thanks. All the DUers have that similar trait.
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:17 PM
May 2020

By the time his cultists see it, they'll be in critical condition.

That's what makes the Lincoln Project such a gift to Democracy and to humanity.

Where has Bloomberg been? We need a 1-2 punch.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. less racist than someone convincing him they could use it like ebola 2014
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:38 PM
May 2020

when rw radio scared the country for a month in oct and it ended right after the election - and they turned 9 senate seats

renate

(13,776 posts)
13. I'm pretty sure that if it were white evangelicals instead of POC who were dying disproportionately
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

... the GOP governors would not be in such a hurry to reopen.

I’m not saying it’s deliberate but I think they just don’t particularly care about the people who are likeliest to die.

citizen blues

(570 posts)
15. Don't Miss the Forest for the Trees
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:47 PM
May 2020

Taken one at a time, these could be seen as incompetence. Let's face it, that's what we've come to expect from this president. But when you step back and look at the actions and inactions as a whole, a pattern - a very ugly pattern emerges.

1) Dr. John Campbell., a professor of nursing in the UK, in his Thursday, May 7th Global Pandemic Update on Youtube outlined findings by the UK gov of epidemiology which found that even with mitigating for socioeconomic disparities, locales, etc. that people with darker skin are up to twice as likely to die from covid-19 than whites. Dr. Campbell believes it's a function of Vitamin D deficiencies, and he is vocal about the need to start testing for it.

2) Yale professor has come out and made the case that Trump's pandemic response is "genocide by default."

3) Prisons are getting hard with no mitigation efforts in place. The US criminal unjustice system has incarcerated minorities at far higher rates than whites.

4) Food production, especially meat packing plants are also getting hit hard, which means that the minority communities they draw their workforces from are also getting hit hard. No requirements for meat packing plants to shut down while the places are cleaned and alter the way they operate. Instead, workers are being threatened with losing any unemployment benefits if they don't return to their jobs.

5) We still have internment camps along the border that have COVID-19 spreading throughout them. But instead of doing anything other than purchasing N95 masks for ICE, immigrants are rapidly being deported. Mexico, Central American and Caribbean countries have all accused the US of deliberately deporting those who are already sick.

When the Tutsi fled Rwanda into the DRC, tens of thousands died from Cholera. Just because it was a virus killing them instead of bullets doesn't mean it was any less genocide. It doesn't have to be a gun or a gas chamber. It can be done by selectively refusing to provide supplies to cities that have a lot of immigrants and minorities like New York, LA and Chicago or states like Michigan and Washington.

Then there's the stolen medical supplies. The National Guard is protecting Maryland's testing supplies from being confiscated by the feds. FEMA took 500 ventilators from the state of Colorado then Trump returned 100 as a personal favor to the GOP senator up for re-election this year.

The Trump administration with Stephen Miller, Pence, Trump is letting the virus do the dirty work, but the pattern is there.

We are witnessing genocide.

lark

(23,099 posts)
16. Final solution to the poor, to the working class, to minorities and to the USA.
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:57 PM
May 2020

All are being destroyed on purpose by a rw criminal traitorous oligarch who is hated by the entire world except for other murderous tyrants.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
17. I believe Larry Charles is on target.
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:58 PM
May 2020

I have felt the government response or should I say lack of response is purposeful and designed to weaken the country and it's people.
Lucky I live in a vote by mail state and I intend to send it back the day I receive it. Or have it ready to mail if I get sick.

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
18. Bannon and Miller, yes. I can totally see them having this discussion.
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

And for guys like Grover Norquist, the deaths of millions of elderly Americans would serve to reduce the 'dependency' on Social Security is a beneficent bi-product of the pandemic. In his mind, Social Security ought to be privatized anyway.

Basically, we are living through the end stages of capitalism, which is showing us that it is unsustainable.

Note that I'm talking about Wall Street and big multi-national publicly held corporations like General Electric, where the CEOs have to focus on shareholder earnings at the expense of everything else, and the concomitant attitude about small government - tax cuts, privatization, deregulation and gutting social programs.

THAT is end stage capitalism, and it is a system that is simply NOT geared for our benefit.

Polarization, lies, racism, 'scientific' studies that produce 'data' that the corporate interests that paid for the studies want (known as non-replicable studies), the constant drumbeat about how government is the enemy, feckless removal of regulations that keep us safe, the constant drumbeat against socialism...all that is set up to uphold greed and to keep us from organizing around human need.

But it's falling apart. I'm hearing Pelosi is now talking about a universal basic income of $2,000 per American. Lots of talk about Medicare for All, too.

ihaveaquestion

(2,538 posts)
19. Of course... I don't think they can even imagine
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:14 PM
May 2020

helping someone who they think of as 'other'. That includes those of other races, classes, genders, and political parties. If someone they consider inferior will be affected, they don't give a whit.

I'm also sure their response is automatic, that they don't even consider the unfairness of it for one second. It's a 'we are the winners' mindset and everyone else be damned.

Traildogbob

(8,739 posts)
21. Question
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:24 PM
May 2020

Where does Mrs Miller fall in that minority group that needs thinning? Are Nazi Assholes planned thinning?

ananda

(28,860 posts)
22. Agree.
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:43 PM
May 2020

With Stephen Miller as an adviser, and Trump being raised
as a nazi eugenicist, this is very likely.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,345 posts)
30. Could be Putin's virus -- we know he's racist, hates China's power, hates the U.S.
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

We also know Putin doesn't care how many he kills, anywhere.

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