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72 attendees of Wisconsin protest have tested positive for COVID 19 (Original Post) Gothmog May 2020 OP
Idiots. Doodley May 2020 #1
You mean they've tested positive for a hoax?!? Orrex May 2020 #2
That was, actually, a great post! BComplex May 2020 #5
Nailed it!! Thekaspervote May 2020 #11
They BETTER NOT call 911 when the hoax makes it too hard to breathe or they can't Maru Kitteh May 2020 #56
Yeah. I want every single one of those assholes that got infected Blue_true May 2020 #60
Ditto malaise May 2020 #39
And its a Chinese hoax. The worst type it seems. BSdetect May 2020 #43
Honestly, I hope every one that gets infected suffer to the max but survive. Blue_true May 2020 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author GulfCoast66 May 2020 #63
I see your point, but often those that suffer from something they took lightly become Blue_true May 2020 #68
Omg.. If I were an idiot I would be so Cha May 2020 #3
These people don't know enough to be embarrassed. BComplex May 2020 #6
Exactly. They are extremely proud of being willfully stubborn. Jamastiene May 2020 #17
Good description of their attitude. BigmanPigman May 2020 #18
I think they're not so much stubborn as immature. llmart May 2020 #66
I do too. Jamastiene May 2020 #75
No. They will blame "democrats" for making them show up. Blue_true May 2020 #62
taking one for the team. how admirable nt msongs May 2020 #4
Why are they being tested? They should relinquish their right to medical care 33taw May 2020 #7
If I were a nurse I would not want to treat one of these guys. BigmanPigman May 2020 #19
I built an R based model BGBD May 2020 #8
Super-spreader? druidity33 May 2020 #53
It's possible BGBD May 2020 #58
Sound points. Blue_true May 2020 #64
Dontcha love a statistician? BComplex May 2020 #73
And those are just the ones, who have admitted to attending a large gathering. iemitsu May 2020 #9
WI also had a large rate of infection in Green Bay because of meat plants. 33taw May 2020 #37
I just hope they didn't infect anyone else. RandySF May 2020 #10
Given the way this virus is, and the attendees' attitudes, I'd say that's a forlorn hope. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #13
Can always hope they only infected like-minded morons rpannier May 2020 #28
They likely infected other people. Those were not the type to wear masks Blue_true May 2020 #65
If they survive it, they'll have bragging rights. They don't care about anyone else. Midnight Writer May 2020 #12
Not if they are breathless after walking 50 yards, or wheelchair bound. Blue_true May 2020 #69
Good. I assume there are more. clutterbox1830 May 2020 #14
Culling the herd. muntrv May 2020 #15
when do the bleach injections begin? TalenaGor May 2020 #16
How did they get tested? MoonlitKnight May 2020 #20
I believe the whole crowd was financed by the Amway family (DeVos) and the remaining Koch BComplex May 2020 #74
idiots Demovictory9 May 2020 #21
Do you mean to say there are actually consequences for doing stupid stuff? tclambert May 2020 #22
Oh, so sad! smirkymonkey May 2020 #23
Karma, Baby peggysue2 May 2020 #24
I suppose they can change their protest signs to: Captain Zero May 2020 #25
"150mg Clorox IM Stat!" Marcuse May 2020 #26
Funny. Hoping that and megadoses of the anti-malarial, the one with killer side effects will be the emmaverybo May 2020 #34
They're still alive? rpannier May 2020 #27
I didn't see that one coming Brother Buzz May 2020 #29
I know I should not but I just cannot resist a chuckle. PatrickforO May 2020 #30
"huge" quakerboy May 2020 #31
72 and counting, that is. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #32
Twitter reply : Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #33
One would hope that this gives them something to think about Hav May 2020 #35
Like changing the news station? pwb May 2020 #47
K&R, those are just the ones willing to admit it uponit7771 May 2020 #36
Not surprised. Rump's next rally will top that. Die for Rump they will. Celerity May 2020 #38
Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes The Magistrate May 2020 #40
like I been saying, Karma can solve this situation beachbumbob May 2020 #41
This isn't exactly true forthemiddle May 2020 #42
What other "large" events were happening at that time? Blue_true May 2020 #71
Did you read the link? former9thward May 2020 #44
Says the guy who told us... LanternWaste May 2020 #51
No, the story at the link says that. former9thward May 2020 #55
You asked for it, you got it--Corona. tanyev May 2020 #45
This may be the first civil war in history where the rebels killed themselves Gothmog May 2020 #46
Who knew they were the weak and expendable? Generic Brad May 2020 #48
that's not what the article, or tweet says. uncle ray May 2020 #49
Tough shit. Paladin May 2020 #50
Wimpity Wampity WOMP Blue Owl May 2020 #52
72 more gays in the GOP now RainCaster May 2020 #54
It is called poetic justice GeorgiaPeanut May 2020 #57
That seems like a LARGE % of them. Does that mean it spreads more easily outdoors?? Roland99 May 2020 #61
I think scientists have already determined that it spreads faster in Blue_true May 2020 #72
That's a damn shame. lpbk2713 May 2020 #67
Sorry. This is fake. Did anyone read the article? GulfCoast66 May 2020 #70

Orrex

(63,168 posts)
2. You mean they've tested positive for a hoax?!?
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:37 AM
May 2020

Current research suggests that they'll hasten their recovery if they wipe their asses with that stupid Confederate participation trophy that they worship.

If they don't abandon their idiocy after this, then fuck them. I'm sorry for their family members, but mostly because I'm sorry that their family members are related to a proudly stupid shithead who went out of his way to contract a potentially lethal infection.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
5. That was, actually, a great post!
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:40 AM
May 2020

My sentiments, exactly!

I hope they have a really complete case of the virus. Then they can go tell everyone how "it's just like the flu"!

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
56. They BETTER NOT call 911 when the hoax makes it too hard to breathe or they can't
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:28 PM
May 2020

get their fever down from 104.1 for three days. Fuck that shit. They don't DESERVE the scant and precious resources of their community meant to provide for the healing of those who contracted this hoax without fault. They sure as fuck don't deserve the care and attention of a single nurse or any HCW.

If I found out my patient had contracted COVID by protesting against my safety, you can be sure they would receive from the the standard of care required by my licence and NOT ONE LITTLE BIT MORE.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. Yeah. I want every single one of those assholes that got infected
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:30 PM
May 2020

to be looking into death's living room before medical workers pull them back. Maybe after that they will acquire some realistic perspectives about life.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
59. Honestly, I hope every one that gets infected suffer to the max but survive.
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:26 PM
May 2020

Maybe that will slap some stupid out of them.

Response to Blue_true (Reply #59)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
68. I see your point, but often those that suffer from something they took lightly become
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:44 PM
May 2020

the biggest crusaders against it.

When those people no longer can walk 50 yards without being out of breath, hopefully that turns on a light in their heads and they warn others against doing what they did.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
17. Exactly. They are extremely proud of being willfully stubborn.
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:30 AM
May 2020

That is all they are doing. It sums up their behavior perfectly. They are being as stubborn as they can be, just for the sake of bring stubborn, and standing in an echo chamber with others who think the same way. They pat each other on the back for being stubborn, but who is proudest of being stubborn becomes a "one-upsmanship" type situation. Then, they vie for the title of being most stubborn and most proud of their stubbornness.

No matter how stupid the stance they take is, they stick to it and are proud of sticking to it. That is their goal and their favorite thing to do in life. "Sticking it to the libs."


llmart

(15,532 posts)
66. I think they're not so much stubborn as immature.
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:41 PM
May 2020

Maybe they can be both at the same time and add in ignorant and selfish.

There may be 72 so far, but I guarantee you there'll be more. Hope everyone that was there gets it.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
75. I do too.
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:16 AM
May 2020

Cooper has opened NC as well now. So, even Democratic governors are now caving to those terrorists. This is going to be horrid. I hope I can find a way to get groceries online enough to survive. I wish I could get hot dog buns online without it being so expensive. I do have some of my vegan hot dog chili coming.

I don't need the hot dog weenies themselves. Ketchup and the chili carried me through homelessness when I could scrape enough together to buy the chili and buns. The rest of the time, it was Hardee's ketchup packets made into soup and crackers from Wendy's. If you were quick about it and didn't take too much from each store's supplies inside, you could manage ketchup soup the rest of the time.

Things are going to get dire for those of us in red states trying to survive. I might end up taking up fishing again, but that is mercury poisoning from the leftover hazardous waste from textiles mills and whatever it keeping the mercury levels high nowadays too. So, I could only eat fish once in a while without permanently damaging my health anyhow.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
62. No. They will blame "democrats" for making them show up.
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:34 PM
May 2020

I am still trying to figure out what guns and the confederate flag have to do with getting back to work.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
8. I built an R based model
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:43 AM
May 2020

a could weeks ago that said if 1% of the population was infected, an event with 200 had about a 6 in 7 chance of having atleast one infected person there and it could be as high as 9 infected people. So, it's not a shock that many people were infected at a large rally where little precaution was being taken, however, I doubt 72 people were infected directly at the rally.

Instead we have to figure that being at the rally makes you much more likely to disregard social distancing guidelines as well as take less overall precaution to protect yourself from the virus. That tracks if you are willing to put yourself into that kind of risk. So, I think anyone at the rally is at a much higher than average risk of contracting the virus in their day to day life. We should expect that rally attendees will have a higher rate of infection than an equally sized group take at random.

Let me also note that in the model I ran a 5% rate of infection in the population as well, and that was off the charts bad. Basically it was nearly assured that an infection would be present and there could be as many as ~25 (I can't recall the exact number but it was close to mid 20s). In that case 72 infections at the rally would be more possible.

I'm assuming that all 72 infections are symptomatic and that's how they were found. If that's the case there would be many, many more asymptomatic cases stemming from it was well.

druidity33

(6,444 posts)
53. Super-spreader?
Sat May 9, 2020, 06:44 PM
May 2020

My understanding is that ONE person in the right position may have been able to infect damn near the whole crowd. Did they have to walk through a tunnel to get onsite? Was there someone checking people in? Did they share an elevator or car-ride or joints?


 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
58. It's possible
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:42 PM
May 2020

I don't know how to include idiots in my model, I'm not that good yet. I heard stories about people offering free hugs and stuff, if one of them were infected they would have really moved it through the group.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
64. Sound points.
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:39 PM
May 2020

It is a good guess that anyone at that rally felt that taking precautions against SAR-COV-2 was a waste of their time. So if they didn't get infected at the rally, they got infected being careless elsewhere.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
9. And those are just the ones, who have admitted to attending a large gathering.
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:51 AM
May 2020

There are 1500 new cases in Wisconsin since that rally.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
65. They likely infected other people. Those were not the type to wear masks
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:40 PM
May 2020

to avoid spreading the virus.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
69. Not if they are breathless after walking 50 yards, or wheelchair bound.
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:48 PM
May 2020

Based upon statistics, 3 of them will likely die, 36 won't notice much and 33 will have illness from mild to severe but short of death.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
14. Good. I assume there are more.
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:09 AM
May 2020

Sorry these people don't deserve your sympathy. Unfortunately, these ppl interact with non protestors, but these ppl won't learn their lesson and will continuously place other ppl health in jeopardy.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
20. How did they get tested?
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:40 AM
May 2020

There had to be some realization that they screwed up and caught the hoax in order to seek out a test. Or they were in bad shape and pretty much had to be tested.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
74. I believe the whole crowd was financed by the Amway family (DeVos) and the remaining Koch
Sun May 10, 2020, 12:23 AM
May 2020

(Charles) brother. So I'm sure there's plenty of $$ to go around. These were not spontaneous, grass-roots rallies.

peggysue2

(10,819 posts)
24. Karma, Baby
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:59 AM
May 2020

For all those bad boys with their long guns, the shrieking women with their smutty mouths, Karma's come to get you. She doesn't care about your Trump-love, your whack-a-doodle interpretation of the US Constitution or your adolescent need with the my-way-or-the-highway attitude.

She simply does her thing and this time she has a tiny, relentless helper: the Covid-19 virus.

Don't say you weren't warned. Because you were about a thousand times over. You laughed and jeered at the rest of us wearing our masks and gloves, trying to make the best of a bad situation.

Karma is a bitch, no doubt about it. And she's come to get you good.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
34. Funny. Hoping that and megadoses of the anti-malarial, the one with killer side effects will be the
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:42 AM
May 2020

protocol used for Trump and Pence.

PatrickforO

(14,557 posts)
30. I know I should not but I just cannot resist a chuckle.
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:07 AM
May 2020

What is that John Lennon said? Instant Karma's gonna get you?

quakerboy

(13,915 posts)
31. "huge"
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:19 AM
May 2020

Im not a crowd counting expert, but that would appear to be 15-20% of the total.

They went there as conspirators to murder. Possibly they didn't realize that, like shooting straight up into the air, it was themselves they might hit in their incompetence.

Also.. How is it we have plenty of tests for these maroons, daily tests for whitehouse folk, But not enough for the senate?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
35. One would hope that this gives them something to think about
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:53 AM
May 2020

I assume it's way more likely that those got tested because they showed symptoms. There could be many more without symptoms and who are still carriers, happily infecting others and who therefore prolong this pandemic.

I'd say if they realize how they brought this disease to their relatives and friends, maybe with severe consequences, they'd reconsider their behavior. There is a chance that some of them caused people dying but we all know these type of people. They are the ones who said freedom or death and considering their lack of empathy, they probably won't regret what they did.

forthemiddle

(1,375 posts)
42. This isn't exactly true
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:36 AM
May 2020

The 72 that tested positive were not asked if they attended the rally, and the Wisconsin Health Department says they cannot be linked to the rally. When the patients are tested, they are asked if they attended “any large events”, and 72 said yes.

That did not specifically say what the large event was, nor does it quantify what someone might think is a large event. So to say 72 people that went to the rally got Covid isn’t accurate.

https://www.channel3000.com/72-got-covid-19-after-being-at-large-event/

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
71. What other "large" events were happening at that time?
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:56 PM
May 2020

People that attended "large" events either stupidly went to a party, or went to the protest or meetings about the protest. At any rate, they were foolishly not following advice from medical experts.

former9thward

(31,923 posts)
44. Did you read the link?
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:47 AM
May 2020

The story says there is no evidence they were at the rally. They were not asked about that event.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
51. Says the guy who told us...
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:28 PM
May 2020

"The main function of the masks for non medical people is to keep people from touching their faces."

former9thward

(31,923 posts)
55. No, the story at the link says that.
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:15 PM
May 2020

Which you obviously did not read.

But since you bring up masks the World Health Organization and experts say that. Of course many wish to ignore them and instead rely on anonymous internet posters...

“Wearing a mask can also reduce the propensity for people to touch their faces, which happens many more times a day than we all realise and is a major source of infection without proper hand hygiene,” said Stephen Griffin, an associate professor at Leeds University’s Institute of Medical Research.

The World Health Organization’s advice is that if you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if:

** you are caring for someone with suspected or confirmed COVID**19 infection

** you are coughing or sneezing yourself, or suspect you might have COVID**19.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-facemasks-explaine/explainer-who-should-wear-a-face-mask-and-do-they-stop-the-coronavirus-idUSKBN21C2PT

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
48. Who knew they were the weak and expendable?
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:45 AM
May 2020

Thank you for your service, COVID warriors. You willingly offered up your life to make the world a better place. It's just too bad we only had two weeks to marvel at the magnificence of your fresh haircuts.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
72. I think scientists have already determined that it spreads faster in
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:05 PM
May 2020

smallish indoor spaces. My guess is those people met at homes or small meeting places before and likely after the rally. In a situation like that, only 1 infected person initially would have ended up infecting a large amount of people via secondary and tertiary transmissions. At one time, it was believe that 3 people started the transmission of the virus in NYC, but due to it being NYC, my guess is there were a lot more initially infected people setting things off there.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
70. Sorry. This is fake. Did anyone read the article?
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:52 PM
May 2020

Read it. All we know is these people attended a large gathering. The election was included in that event.

There is absolutely no evidence tying the protest into the new cases.

While I have no doubt the protest did spread the virus, DU is a fact based site. Not rumor or desire based site. Which is why I have a DU membership but not a Facebook membership.

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