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LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:54 AM May 2020

The real Lord of the Flies: what happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months

For centuries western culture has been permeated by the idea that humans are selfish creatures. That cynical image of humanity has been proclaimed in films and novels, history books and scientific research. But in the last 20 years, something extraordinary has happened. Scientists from all over the world have switched to a more hopeful view of mankind. This development is still so young that researchers in different fields often don’t even know about each other.

When I started writing a book about this more hopeful view, I knew there was one story I would have to address. It takes place on a deserted island somewhere in the Pacific. A plane has just gone down. The only survivors are some British schoolboys, who can’t believe their good fortune. Nothing but beach, shells and water for miles. And better yet: no grownups.

On the very first day, the boys institute a democracy of sorts. One boy, Ralph, is elected to be the group’s leader. Athletic, charismatic and handsome, his game plan is simple: 1) Have fun. 2) Survive. 3) Make smoke signals for passing ships. Number one is a success. The others? Not so much. The boys are more interested in feasting and frolicking than in tending the fire. Before long, they have begun painting their faces. Casting off their clothes. And they develop overpowering urges – to pinch, to kick, to bite.

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The boys, once aboard, claimed they were students at a boarding school in Nuku‘alofa, the Tongan capital. Sick of school meals, they had decided to take a fishing boat out one day, only to get caught in a storm. Likely story, Peter thought. Using his two-way radio, he called in to Nuku‘alofa. “I’ve got six kids here,” he told the operator. “Stand by,” came the response. Twenty minutes ticked by. (As Peter tells this part of the story, he gets a little misty-eyed.) Finally, a very tearful operator came on the radio, and said: “You found them! These boys have been given up for dead. Funerals have been held. If it’s them, this is a miracle!”

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what-happened-when-six-boys-were-shipwrecked-for-15-months?utm_source=digg

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The real Lord of the Flies: what happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months (Original Post) LiberalArkie May 2020 OP
Great find! wcast May 2020 #1
The Lord of the Flies "culture" is at the very heart of conservatism. Thomas Hurt May 2020 #2
That's awesome! Thanks for posting! gulliver May 2020 #3
"Thank you for rescuing six of my subjects," His Royal Highness said. bigtree May 2020 #4
Ayn F'ing Rand Mme. Defarge May 2020 #9
What is your problem with the story or that excerpt? Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #12
Oops, sorry! Mme. Defarge May 2020 #14
lol bigtree May 2020 #27
That is mavelous! Thank you for finding and sharing! Maeve May 2020 #5
What an amazing story! crickets May 2020 #6
An intrepid bunch, especially when you see this island... Princess Turandot May 2020 #7
A story for our times The Blue Flower May 2020 #8
I just read this article jmbar2 May 2020 #10
Yes, go back to the very end of the article h2ebits May 2020 #15
Thank you - jmbar2 May 2020 #23
You're welcome h2ebits May 2020 #26
This is a wonderful story. murielm99 May 2020 #11
Very good to know. Thank you for posting. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #13
duplicate thread... abqtommy May 2020 #16
Links in titles don't work. Try this: hunter May 2020 #20
Oh...thanks. abqtommy May 2020 #21
So powerful! I loved reading this! lucca18 May 2020 #17
Excellent article -- got to the end and wanted to read more. Thanks for posting! Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #18
Video related to this Quixote1818 May 2020 #19
Read up on the shipwreck Batavia. More of a horror story. Midnight Writer May 2020 #22
Thank you for posting GeoWilliam750 May 2020 #24
The six Tongan survivors struggle4progress May 2020 #25
+1 bigtree May 2020 #28
Awesome story! Thanks for posting this. SharonAnn May 2020 #29
What a wonderful story! PatSeg May 2020 #30

wcast

(595 posts)
1. Great find!
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:20 AM
May 2020

I used to read the Lord of the Flies with my English class and this would have been a perfect companion piece to teach alongside it.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
4. "Thank you for rescuing six of my subjects," His Royal Highness said.
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:47 AM
May 2020

Mr Peter Warner, third from left, with his crew in 1968, including the survivors from ‘Ata.
(Fairfax Media Archives/via Getty Images)

“Now, is there anything I can do for you?” The captain didn’t have to think long. “Yes! I would like to trap lobster in these waters and start a business here.” The king consented. Peter returned to Sydney, resigned from his father’s company and commissioned a new ship. Then he had the six boys brought over and granted them the thing that had started it all: an opportunity to see the world beyond Tonga. He hired them as the crew of his new fishing boat.



...first-class tale. Thanks for sharing.

Mme. Defarge

(8,028 posts)
14. Oops, sorry!
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:04 PM
May 2020

I posted this under the wrong reply to the OP.

I did read the entire story and was deeply moved by it. Thank you for bringing the errant post to my attention.

crickets

(25,969 posts)
6. What an amazing story!
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:17 PM
May 2020

That was fascinating, a great read. Thank you so much for sharing this, LiberalArkie!

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
7. An intrepid bunch, especially when you see this island...
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:23 PM
May 2020

... where there is very little. According to Wikipedia, nowadays, there are fig trees on the island, a species of sea bird and the Polynesian rat.



It's a hundred miles south of the main island of Tonga.

Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/h3BJSGvuFS2RzToRA

Thanks for posting.

jmbar2

(4,874 posts)
10. I just read this article
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:33 PM
May 2020

Is it just an article or is there a book? I could find a link to the book. I'd buy it.

It's an amazing story.

h2ebits

(644 posts)
15. Yes, go back to the very end of the article
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:07 PM
May 2020

"This is an adapted excerpt from Rutger Bregman’s Humankind, translated by Elizabeth Manton and Erica Moore. A live streamed Q&A with Bregman and Owen Jones takes place at 7pm on 19 May 2020."

h2ebits

(644 posts)
26. You're welcome
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:20 PM
May 2020

I also found the story fascinating. I wish wish there was more info about the Q&A such as what time zone. . . .

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