Fuck Steve Schmidt

[Cyrano]

Yes, he's eloquent and he's doing his best to bring Trump down. But Schmidt, and many like him, made Trump possible.

Schmidt was on Dick Cheney's staff and helped Bush/Cheney come to power. Where was his conscience when Bush/Cheney "won" through a stolen election? Where was his eloquence when we were lied into Iraq? Where was his outrage when Bush/Cheney let New Orleans drown?

Then he worked on John McCain's campaign and was a major force responsible for making Sarah Palin McCain's running mate. Mindless, utter stupidity didn't seem to bother him then.

And even today, he speaks fondly of "Saint" Ronald Reagan, a man who was an amiable imbecile who was almost as dumb as Trump, and was too dense or demented to understand he was surrounded by criminals who were using him.

Put plainly, Schmidt helped make the Republican Party the sadistic thugs they are today, and he helped lay the groundwork for the election of Donald Trump.

Now, seeing where his career helped bring us, he's outraged and shocked. Shocked I tell you. How could anyone not see, decades ago, where the Republican Party was headed? Especially someone like Scmidt who is damn smart. I guess we're now supposed to thank him for bringing his eloquent voice to bear in opposition to Trump.

But he doesn't get to escape the fact that he, and many anti-Trumpers like him, contributed to making Trump's reign of terror possible.

[CommonSenseMom]

1. What you say is true

but, as long as he has a national voice and the will to do so, we should welcome his help in getting Trump out of office. Nothing is more important than that right now. When that's done, blast away all you like.

[empedocles]

7. Yes. Stalin was a known super rotten guy, but the WWII Alliance was - ah, greatly helpful.

Purists are not good election or results, bets

[ariadne0614]

19. +1 n/t

[Ilsa]

64. This is our chance to "use them back."

We don't have to fall in love with Schmidt or Rick Wilson. We can let them continue outsmarting the trumpsters, and boost their memes whenever possible, but saving our finances for our candidates and policies.

[tblue37]

75. Or George Conway. I agree with you wholeheartedly. nt

[dalton99a]

2. The Never Trumpers will be the first to attack a Democratic administration

and try to regain power for their party.

They will be treated as "impartial"/"nonpartisan" by the media and given outsized importance.

Just watch

[roamer65]

6. I don't think it.

They will start the civil war inside the Repuke party first. They know a purge has to take place. The Trumpists aren’t going to give up that easy. Mussolini and Hitler lovers didn’t.

[Raven123]

10. Yep. We can't let ourselves be distracted from that fact

[CTyankee]

23. Only if they think Trump will come back and welcome them back but I doubt if they believe that.

They can make a pretty good living with their present gig. They have tales to tell and warnings to make. And they know they way the Trumpers think. That alone is enough to make them valuable allies. We don't know everything.

[Squinch]

22. As long as we get the Democratic administration.

[Hamlette]

72. My Dad left the GOP and became a godless commie pinko, like the rest of us in the family.

people can change.

[jberryhill]

3. I agree

Trump is the inexorable progression of what people like Schmidt spent most of their lives working toward.

[dalton99a]

5. +1. Trump is the apex of their natural evolution

Not an anomaly

[Rebl2]

42. You are

exactly right. Another is Nicole Wallace. I do watch her occasionally and she has no use for trump, but I believe as soon as there is a republican she likes, she will vote for them.

[Bradshaw3]

4. Fuck this

When you're in a war for democracy you take all the allies you can get. Save the sackcloth and ashes for the historians. I want drumpf out of office and gladly welcome any help that Schmidt and Wilson and Kristol can give, regardless of their past.

[CTyankee]

9. Not only that. They're GOOD allies to have: they know Trump better than we do and they know

how his brain works better than we do. The ones to listen to are the disillusioned believers. Become allies with them. They can help us bring Trump down.

[Bradshaw3]

12. Good point

We should be prepared for another close election. We need EVERY vote. Sure those people pissed me off and said and did terrible things but at this point do we care about that or care about getting our democracy back. They certainly do get under his skin.

[grantcart]

35. +1

[quickesst]

21. well said

I could have posted the same thoughts myself, but it's easier just to say "DITTO!"

[USALiberal]

24. I agree! nt

[pandr32]

37. Agreed 100%

[Hassin Bin Sober]

48. We've been in a fight for democracy since the 80s and clowns like Schmidt are the enemy.

Remember, he and Kristol tried to stick us with Palin. That’s their brand.

[pazzyanne]

59. That was not their most billiant moment. Really, Sarah Palin?

She was the harbinger of tRump. Her word salad is just like tRumps.

[Bradshaw3]

68. It is nothing like it is now and you need to do more research on Schmidt and Palin

Refighting old wars and purity tests are stupid when you're in the middle of the biggest war we've ever had. Just as pointless as the Hillary fans-Bernie Bro battles when you consider what's at stake.

[ancianita]

74. You're right. And when what's at stake gets settled, more acts of trustworthiness on behalf of

the Democratic Party have to come from the Steve Schmidt crowd.

As his beloved Reagan said, trust but verify.

These have a lot of years ahead to prove they've permanently changed.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

94. What's stupid is pretending Trump happened in a vacuum and letting clowns like Kristol and Schmidt..

... get away with pretending they are not part of the problem.

I don’t need these rodeo clowns to tell me what a disaster trump is - and neither does rational thinking adults.

The rest won’t be “moved” by Schmidt’s, at this point self indulgent, diatribes that have liberals throwing their undies at him.

In a couple years, Schmidt will be back to peddling some homophobic, racist, anti abortion, xenophobe who wants to punish poor people.

[Bradshaw3]

95. No one pretended that drumpf happened in a vacuum

So your straw dog really fits in that category. The rest of your post is also ignorant of his perspective, but if it makes you feel better to take unfair shots like the ones here, including the dumb one about panties, go ahead. Says more about you than anyone.

[Quixote1818]

85. Bingo! nt

[NRaleighLiberal]

8. yup. I trust NO republican no matter what their current spin is. None. Never.

[dalton99a]

15. +1. Rats running from a dumpster fire - but hey, there are books to sell

[NRaleighLiberal]

28. yup

[JHB]

54. Sound policy, borne out by experience

They won't stab us in the back... it'll be the kidneys. The body positioning is better for whispering a gloating dig into the ear as you fall.

Why the hell do these guys get air time instead of people who saw this coming a long time ago. Rhetorical question: anybody who put the blame on one side didn't appear on the talking head shows... or got blackballed once they did. Ask Norman Ornstein.

[Cassidy]

78. We can accept their help in defeating Trump, but we should never trust them.

When the election is settled, and Democrats have won the Presidency, the House, and the Senate, then we need to ignore their ideas, shut down their plans, and allow them to sink into oblivion.

People who have been so brutally wrong, for so very long, do not deserve any more chances.

I would like to add to the list of ignorables, the crew of Morning Joe. They gave Trump incredible amounts of air time to slander President Obama and sell himself. He was as vicious, narcissistic, and ignorant then as he is now. They must have known, but ratings via controversy was always more important to them than truth.

[Hotler]

11. I agree. Once a repug, always a repug. 99.99% of the time you can't change them.

Once the orange one is gone you can bet many of the Steve Schmidt's will turn on us. Even Nicolle Wallace will turn. Joey the Scar will be the first, you can bet on it.

[Dave in VA]

13. The enemy of my enemy

is my friend.

As stated previously; Stalin was no friend of the USA, but was needed if we were going to be victorious in WWII.

I'll take all the anti-orange hemorrhoid voters that I can get. Losing for the sake of purity in not an option in 2020 (if ever.)

[pazzyanne]

60. Amen! nt

[sellitman]

89. You beat me to it.

I was thinking this from the start.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. Maybe he's atoning for his previous sins, as he should.

Right now we need all the help we can get, and if he wants to help get rid of Trump, good for him.

[LakeArenal]

16. Finally. So sick of Schmidt loving.

He said awful things about Hillary
Was all George Bush and Sarah Palin
Toed the Liberal hating line.
Went to campaign for some billionaire
Now wants back in the light.

Screw that ass. Has he endorsed Biden?

[quickesst]

31. as a matter of fact....

Other current and former Republican figures

Bruce Bartlett, author, historian, policy advisor to Ronald Reagan (former Republican, now Independent; previously endorsed Elizabeth Warren)[530][531]

Max Boot, author, consultant, military historian, columnist for The Washington Post (former Republican)[532]

George Conway, attorney, co-founder of The Lincoln Project (former Republican before 2018, now Independent)[533]

Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark, former board chair of the Log Cabin Republicans (Republican)[534]

Meghan McCain, co-host of The View (Republican)[535]

Jennifer Rubin, journalist, columnist for The Washington Post (Independent)[536]

*******
Steve Schmidt, chief strategist for the John McCain 2008 presidential campaign, co-founder of The Lincoln Project (former Republican before 2018, now Independent)[537]
*******
Mac Stipanovich, political activist and strategist (former Republican before 2019, now Democratic)[538]

Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, former U.S. Air Force captain and commercial airline pilot during the water landing of US Airways Flight 1549 (former Republican)[539]

John Weaver, political consultant, chief strategist for the John Kasich 2016 presidential campaign, co-founder of The Lincoln Project (Republican)[531]

George Will, journalist, columnist for The Washington Post (former Republican before 2016, now Independent)[540]

Rick Wilson, political strategist, media consultant, author, co-founder of The Lincoln Project (Republican)[537]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joe_Biden_2020_presidential_campaign_endorsements

[LakeArenal]

32. Independent Republican? Rand Paul types to me.

Independent to me is fence straddling.
Especially now.

[quickesst]

40. the question....

.... on whether Steve Schmidt had endorsed Joe Biden has been answered.
Please don't try to avoid it.

Independent Republican? Unless you are a genuine psychic or have a working crystal ball, you cannot say that with any certainty.

I suppose, or should I assume, you include Angus King, and Bernie Sanders among the "fence straddlers"?

[LakeArenal]

44. I don't need your condescension.

My opinion of Steve Schmidt isn’t changing.
The fact that I missed him endorsing Joe doesn’t change the fact that I think calling yourself Independent after being a staunch Republican is fence straddling.

And Yes I do think Sanders is the highest form of fence straddler.

[quickesst]

88. I don't think I'm being condescending....

I am simply pointing out that you are stating a certainty that is impossible to do without the power of prognostication or a working crystal ball. Certainly not trying to change your mind concerning your opinion on Steve Schmidt or anyone else.

Since Independents make up approximately 39% of the voting public, if all Democrats had your disdain for them, we would never win another election.

I am not a fan Bernie Sanders donning the mantle of Democrat for election purposes, but I do welcome his consistency in voting with Democrats on important legislation.

[DENVERPOPS]

47. Great work Quick

There are a ton of them who will sell them selves out to the highest bidder. POLITICAL WHORES, all of them......
look no further than Trump's entire Administration and the RepubliCON senators........

There are quite a few DINO's that are the same...........

[Solly Mack]

18. Follow the more or less straight line of all the bullshit

republicans/conservatives have said and done over the years and Trump is the result.

The whole of the GOP gave birth to Trump and he isn't a mistake or glitch of their collective past tactics - he is the product of them.

Worse, Trump isn't the worst they can and will produce given the chance.

[cry baby]

20. The enemy of my enemy is my friend...

Whatever this "friend" can contribute is welcomed. It's an urgent matter of survival now.

[Cyrano]

25. Yeah, I'll take the help

Just don't forget the past. It will be interesting to see where Schmidt, Krystal and people like them go if we take over the presidency and the senate.

Stalin was our ally and turned on us once Germany was defeated. My guess is we can expect the same from conservative anti-Trumpers.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend," but will likely be our enemy again.

[cry baby]

67. I won't forget. Perhaps, after all is said and done, these never-

trumpers will be won over by the humane people and policies of the dems.

I won't hold my breath, but I will hope.

[jcgoldie]

27. right!

We'll take the Schmidts, Wilsons, Conways for now and after the election fuck em! But I want to keep Nicole Wallace.

[redstateblues]

26. Hell with purity. We are in a war and I welcome Schmidt, Nicole Wallace, Scarborough et al

To help us take down Trump

[ariadne0614]

29. If the Democratic message machine wasn't so pathetic, I might agree with the OP.

Unfortunately, it is wet noodles compared to Steve Schmidt’s scathing, ruthless eviscerations of the orange pig. With so much at stake, we can’t afford to collapse onto our fainting couches over the foul stench wafting up from never-Trumpers’ manure-caked boots.

[LymphocyteLover]

38. Generally agree. Steve schmidt is no hero, but right now, he is helping us

Still we shouldn't have any illusions about who he is. Same for Rick Wilson, George Conway, etc

[AlexSFCA]

56. he is far more effective to turn some republican voters and officials against trump

than any democrat could do. I’ll take it.

[agingdem]

30. He will always be the guy who brought us Sarah Palin

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and yes I appreciate his never trump" shtick but you can bet the nanosecond Joe is in the White House Schmidt will express his disappointment and regroup with other never trumpers to bring down Democrats..

[crickets]

36. Yep. He may be aiming his attack in the same direction as

Democrats are right now, and that's a good thing. For now. Eventually the worm will turn.

[agingdem]

46. I don't trust any of them..

in their nauseatingly we-told-you-so self-righteosness they conveniently forget their GOP, you know the guys who hate all non-whites, non-christians, the poor.. the party of misogynistic, anti-abortion, anti-healthcare, anti social security fellow compatriots...the GOP they've supported and worked for all of their adult lives..the never trumpers are "finished" with the GOP for now but the second they no longer get network face time they'll go back into the fold

[certainot]

49. he may get the blame but it was part of a russian operation

he may even think he was responsible. he was involved in trying to get the idiot prepared etc but remember manafort was mccain's campaign cochair and he was working for russians then

schmidt was not more important in that decision than manafort, altho manafort may have allowed him to think that

and they were starting to use limbaugh too. limbaugh would not support mccaain until mccain chose palin that was timed to minutes befor ethe friday limbaugh show the friday before the republlican convention. limbaugh used the show to support mcccain and praise palin as the savior, and so the convention was 'saved'. withtout limbaugh it woulld have been a disaster

and palin had been wooed by russssian oil and gas!/putin

that was also a little after breitbart/kremllin horned in on drudge/MIC as major feeder of talk radio

[Me.]

33. The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Friend

For now...we'll see what the future holds

[Stallion]

34. Will Rogers: "I am not a member of an organized political party. I am a Democrat."

Democrats can still screw this up with this type of distraction. Keep your eye on the ball

[DrToast]

39. Do you want allies in stopping Trump?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

41. He's a sonuvabitch but (for the moment) he's OUR sonuvabitch.

[bucolic_frolic]

43. It's the party of Lincoln

As historians reexamine Lincoln's record, a different picture emerges than the one Republican historians, because there were no other kind, wrote in the 60 years after his death. Lincoln struggled as commander-in-chief with a series of appointments that went poorly, though he eventually settled on U.S. Grant. Lincoln, according to Thomas DiLorenzo was a railroad lawyer who profited mightily from land deals in Council Bluffs IA and in representing railroads in court. He was racist toward native Americans. He was used by the new Republican Party's business interests for profit, and for raising tariffs to benefit them. Freedom meant railroad interests to Lincoln and his cronies, while labor hadn't a clue it was being exploited and married to emergent capitalism.

So yeah, these anti-Trumpers are laughing, as usual, all the way to the bank because they love unfettered Darwinist survival-of-the-fittest capitalism.

[elleng]

45. And he's changed his mind; should be applauded.

Those who don't appreciate when people change their minds for the better are foolish.

[Laxman]

50. Dislike Steve Schmidt If You Wish....

this is only about the 1000th "Steve Schmidt is a bad man" thread. There is plenty to criticize. However, dismiss his message at your peril. And certainly, don't discount the thing he says that have tremendous value. People are complicated and like it or not, we live in a society where there will be diversity of thought. It's important for that diversity and disagreement to be productive, for there to be acknowledged common ground and for us to chart a positive course forward. Not having that is how we've gotten where we are.

[Bradshaw3]

70. Well said

Great video choice.

[manhattan123]

51. Schmidt, Nicolle Wallce, Rick Wilson...

and others like them can speak to disgruntled Republicans and wavering moderates in a way that people here can't.

You're preaching to the choir on this board. That's fine, but what does it do.

Nicolle Wallace can reach hundreds of thousands of people every day on her show, and she holds nothing back in her contempt for Trump (and has since even before the virus started.)

Yes, they were Republicans before. People are allowed to be Republicans.

Why you wouldn't want them now is puzzling.

[usaf-vet]

55. Getting rid of Trump is the most important and necessary thing we need to do in 2020 election.

I DON'T CARE WHO HELPS US TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL.

Nothing else matters until Trump is gone.

[RandiFan1290]

52. Same people that want Schmidt

are clamoring to have Bernie kicked out of the caucus.

[Celerity]

93. as do some who are against Schmidt

purity tests work in many directions and come with many boundary lines

If you set up a continuum of political baseline stances within the current US congressional ideology (extrapolated out to the electorate as a whole)

and consisting of

10 divisions flowing from an absolute centre to the left, and 10 flowing from the centre to the right

I see a default stance by many that would prefer the absolute centre and 3 deciles to the right, 5 or 6 deciles to the left (with 5 and especially 6 divisions to the left already too left for many in this group, as I shall explain below)

The 40% of the most left 10 divisions would be expunged as much as is possible to still maintain a majority, and the 7 divisions that are most right wing (ie the hardcore Republicans) would be numerically overcome every time, in this vision. The most preferred stance (what these types would hope for in terms of an ideological stance that could be multiplied via ideological conversion of the electorate) would be 3 deciles, maybe 4 max, to the left (with 4 to the left already causing friction), and then of course the mythic centre, and finally 1 maybe 2 divisions to the right of centre. (2 if that means millions more voters, and in this line of thinking, 2 divisions to the right of centre is vastly superior than a 7 or 8 divisions to the left of centre stance)

I must stress that this is strictly on an American ideological scale, and thus vastly and artificially slid to the right when comparing it to most other advanced Western nations.

[Evolve Dammit]

53. Scarborough too. BUT, as other posters have pointed out, they know him and they are disgusted

and pissed by his horrific administration and his total lack of character. They are pointing it out daily and have since the first year. It does help to point it out to folks that don't follow it like we do.

[Hav]

57. What's that sound?

Is that the sound of pearl clutching?

Close to 80000 deaths mostly due to incompetence, Obamacare and more SC appointments on the line...I'd say any help is welcome and they seem to be very good at getting under Trump's skin. So let them run brutal ads against Trump.

[JI7]

81. +

seriously, it's not like they are asking us to vote for them.

but people have problems with people opposing trump ???????

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. Google General James Longstreet

If he can change so can Steve Schmidt and Bill Kristol. "I say unto you that likewise more joy shall be in Heaven over one sinner that repenteth, than over ninety and nine just persons who need no repentance."

[Ford_Prefect]

61. As I recall there are plenty of trees along Madison, Jefferson, and Constitution...

Perhaps a little shade is in order?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

62. Like him or not

we are allies now against a common foe. Once Trump is gone, we can decide how we're going to deal with the Never Trumpers and whether they will remain a force for positive social and political change or if they're going to go back to their old non-Trumpian (but still slimy) Republican ways. But they want Trump gone as badly as we do and we "gave" them the nominee they said they could vote for, so let's get that job done first and sort out the rest later.

[Fla Dem]

63. I do not like Mike Schmitd for all the reasons you stated.....but

He can dump on Trump and his henchmen all he wants. Feel the same way about Rick Wilson. The msnbc anchors have him on all the time. So they can bash Trump all they want but if Biden gets elected, they'll be right back at their Democratic bashing. Wait and see.

[calimary]

65. As much as I like what he's saying - NOW, I won't forget. He helped build this.

EVERYBODY in the republi-CON party bears responsibility for this.

EVERYBODY WHO VOTED for the republi-CON candidate bears responsibility. EVERYBODY WHO DEFENDED, EDITORIALIZED, STRATEGIZED, OR WORKED TO ELECT the republi-CON candidate or the republi-CON "philosophy" bears responsibility.

EVERY last one of them. EVERY LAST ONE.

You may be a convert - for now, Schmidt. You may have "seen the light" - for now. But you do not escape responsibility for this. You're going to have to renounce this shit and this whole CONservative/republi-CON mindset and world view, and KEEP ON rejecting it and working for the greater good (NOT the greater good of the very rich and privileged, for the already haves and have mores). And doing so LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNG after donald trump is gone.

You can't just do the situational thing. Because you merely don't like trump. (But if we just get back to the "old republi-CON ideals"...)

You don't get to be like a friend of mine who, when faced with a choice to vote for Hillary or Donald, whined to me some undoubtedly Pox Noise-promoted slogan - "oh, I want a woman president. Just not THAT woman." You don't get to hide behind the skirts of its corollary" "oh I want republi-CONS in charge. Just not THAT republi-CON." NOPE.

NOPE.

NOPE.

NOPE!!!

[Gore1FL]

66. I appreciate their advertisements. I appreciate their anti-Trumpism. They aren't heros.

It's thrilling to see them say things that aren't stupid, for a change, but Schmidt, Kristol, Conway, Wilson, etc. built this monster to begin with.

I've seen people on DU as praising George W. Bush as being the last decent GOP president. I don't recall decent ever being a word I would use to describe him. He was ultimately the same as Trump except with table manners.

These aren't friends. We momentarily share a set of similar goals.

[czarjak]

69. Thanks for the sentiments...

I'll listen to him after the "kicking and screaming".

[Trumpocalypse]

71. Churchill once said

If Hitler were to invade hell I should at least make a favorable reference to Satan in the House of Commons.

[Hulk]

73. So long as they salute Ronald Reagan.... I don't trust any of them...

They may condemn the idiot in the white house today but they certainly are responsible for the policies of the Republican Party.... regardless of the jackass in Orange.

Nice to hear them Bash the con-artist draft Dodger... but I have zero respect and zero trust in them in the future and they need to be discarded once this nightmare is over.

Reagan began the destruction of the middle class in America... don't forget that!

[LiberalBear]

76. True except.....

All true, but in the world of politics it is all about vote counting and living to fight another day. So, I will gladly accept the vote of any American and any and all help to defeat Trump. I also understand that I may find myself on the different side of any number of issues in the future as we literally attempt to LIVE and save our nation to fight for another day. We do not have to agree all the time to join together when our common interests align. This is the beauty of democracy and the art of compromise with the purpose of getting things done to move the nation forward, as opposed to consolidation of power by gridlock and division.

[Edwcraig]

77. And what about Joe.

http://democraticprinciples.blogspot.com/2019/08/joes-grand-old-party.html

[ancianita]

87. Joe Scarborough's got to go -- at least from MSNBC. He did a lot of damage as a Republican.

Scarborough was one of a group of about 40 freshmen Republican legislators who dubbed themselves the "New Federalists" after The Federalist Papers. Scarborough was elected political director of the incoming legislators. The New Federalists called for sweeping cuts in the U.S. government, including plans to "privatize, localize, consolidate, [or] eliminate"[17] the Departments of Commerce, Education, Energy and Housing and Urban Development.

Gingrich tapped Scarborough to head a Republican task force on education, and Scarborough declared, "Our goal is to get as much money, power, and authority out of Washington and get as much money, power, and authority into the classroom as possible."[6] Rep. John Kasich (R-Ohio), then chairman of the House Budget Committee, adopted Scarborough's language eliminating the federal Department of Education in the 1996 House Budget Resolution.[18] The budget passed the House by a vote of 238–193.[19]

Scarborough supported a number of anti-abortion positions while in Congress, including the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, that made it a crime to harm a fetus during the commission of other crimes.[20][21]

Scarborough sponsored a bill to force the U.S. to withdraw from the United Nations after a four-year transition[17] and voted to make the Corporation for Public Broadcasting self-sufficient[22] by eliminating federal funding.

Scarborough also voted for the "Medicare Preservation act of 1995,"[23] which cut the projected growth of Medicare by $270 billion over ten years, and against the "Small Business Job Protection Act of 1996,

[Edwcraig]

90. Thanks and By Making this about Trump he deflects the blame from the real culprits

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

[ancianita]

91. Yes. Also, sorry I forgot to link my excerpt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough

[Blue Owl]

79. And the tiny mushroom dick he rode in on

n/t

[JI7]

80. FUCK TRUMP

[LeftInTX]

82. Why do we have to "f him"?

As long as we don't have to give money to him or do something for him, or support a candidate that he supports, then isn't all he just providing commentary on TV?

I no longer have cable, so I don't know the context, but last I knew he was providing commentary.

He's a neocon and a Republican. After all is said and done, he will probably find a comfort zone if and when the Republicans revert back to those types of Republicans. We have David Frum who has done an excellent job and he's a neocon.

[eleny]

83. He should spend the rest of his life making up for the path he helped send us on

[DFW]

84. The guy's a Republican. Deal with it, but don't kick him away just yet.

In 1980, Reagan never told the "Reagan Democrats" to fuck off, either, and they helped him win. What's wrong with having a few million "Biden Republicans" on our side? Does anyone think Jill Stein and Nina Turner will be more helpful allies? (And of you do, don't you DARE smoke that stuff while driving)

If the two candidates Schmidt last actively worked for were McCain and Romney (if he did? I didn't look it up), he sure as hell changed his tune when Trump became the nominee. If he thinks defeating Trump is a necessary goal to save his party, well take the first part (defeating Trump is a necessary goal) and let him worry about the last part (saving the Republican Party) if he still perceives a Republican Party out there worth saving. I give that one a 50-50 at best.

[UCmeNdc]

86. As long as they vote for Biden!

[Squidly]

92. Steve is very good at what he does

Hes one of the best there is. We should be very thankful that he is in this fight with us.

Yes, he was a big part of the evil empire, but like so many others have said, we are in a war for the future of this country and we need as many allies as we can get.

Sure, after we take this country back he and the other nevertrumpers will probably focus on defeating democrats, but RIGHT NOW we need their ruthless take no prisoners approach to helping us rid this countrys greatest threat.

Its horrible, I know, but I would take Bush 1, 2 and even Ronnie any day and twice on Sundays over the evil that is in the White House right now. And thats saying a lot.