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Trump is starting to practice his *rigged election* strategy should he lose in November (Original Post) bearsfootball516 May 2020 OP
'Rigged' or not, the only thing that matters is GETTING HIM OUT! TheCowsCameHome May 2020 #1
We don't have to steal it.... safeinOhio May 2020 #2
+1 2naSalit May 2020 #3
California isn't going to Trump Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #4
Biden leads in CA by 67 pct to 29 pct. roamer65 May 2020 #5
It will be a huge blowout there Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #6
So, assuming a fair election*, what do we do when he says ecstatic May 2020 #7
The GOP anti-democracy war continues. Putineers can still destroy us. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #8
Any suppression efforts (to the vote) will backfire like it recently did, in MI or WI, when ... SWBTATTReg May 2020 #9
So he's basically saying that letting Democrats vote is the same as stealing an election. Crunchy Frog May 2020 #10

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,446 posts)
6. It will be a huge blowout there
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:12 PM
May 2020

Trump is being his usual stupid self. Not to mention that Washington and Oregon (maybe others) already have mail-in ballotting without any major concerns. Just more flotsam and dirt and distraction from him being in freefall

ecstatic

(32,751 posts)
7. So, assuming a fair election*, what do we do when he says
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:19 PM
May 2020

this after a landslide defeat this fall? Any ideas or plans for how to react if he tells republican governors to ignore the popular vote in states where he lost?

In other words, states have a lot of power in deciding how the election will run. Today, Republicans control 30 state legislatures and Democrats only 19, with one state divided. (Nebraska technically has nonpartisan legislators, but it is a reliably red state, so I include it with the Republican states.) These red-state legislatures control 305 electoral votes, and only 270 are needed to secure the presidency. Presumably, most red states, if not all, would appoint electors who would elect Trump for another four years. Of those 30 states, 22 also have Republican governors, which means in those states there would be no Democratic governor to veto Republican legislation taking away the people’s opportunity to vote for president. Those 22 states represent 219 electoral-college votes—perilously close to the 270 required for Trump to be reelected.

The more complicated question is not whether states can do this, but whether they would. Republican lawmakers have been steadfastly loyal to Trump throughout his tumultuous tenure. If Trump were to ask states to appoint electors instead of having an election, they certainly might follow his request, especially those states where the president enjoys wide popularity. In 24 of the 30 states with Republican legislatures, a majority of people approve of the president’s job performance, according to last month’s Gallup survey. Those states control 224 electoral votes—enough to throw the election’s results into doubt. States could also wreak havoc on the election by not taking steps now to prepare for voting during a pandemic. If only a few states allowed their legislatures to appoint electors, or postponed electoral selection indefinitely, the November election could result in no candidate receiving a majority of electoral-college votes.

This is a real concern. If no candidate wins a majority of electors, the Twelfth Amendment empowers the House of Representatives to decide who will be president. Although the House is controlled by Democrats, predicting the outcome is not that simple. The Amendment requires the House to choose the president by voting as states, not as individual members. So, instead of 435 individual votes, there would be 50 state votes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-election/608989/


* Still waiting to see provisions that will ensure a safe, secure and fair election.

SWBTATTReg

(22,176 posts)
9. Any suppression efforts (to the vote) will backfire like it recently did, in MI or WI, when ...
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:00 PM
May 2020

the republican controlled supreme court still ruled that the primaries still go on, despite efforts to change the date of the primary. The voting still went on when the state supreme court ruled that it must, and as a results, republicans lost.

The margins are getting larger and larger for the democratic party and efforts by republicans to suppress voter turnouts will get more outlandish, more brazen. The so called claim by rump of fraud is fake as usual, with nothing to support his false claims. Don't people get arrested for making false claims (e.g., if it were someone else besides the idiot in chief making such a fake claim (fraud), they would be arrested for making a false report to police.

Crunchy Frog

(26,685 posts)
10. So he's basically saying that letting Democrats vote is the same as stealing an election.
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:49 PM
May 2020

I feel like he's pushing this country towards a hot civil war.

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