I'm against welfare recipients getting our tax dollars and I'm super liberal.

[tecelote]

A lot of people are shocked by my stance on welfare. I'm against it 100%. The richest country in the world should not need welfare.

Millions of Americans are "on food stamps" and "public assistance" because they can not afford to feed their families. This is a travesty. The government should not have to support these people! Our tax dollars are better spent elsewhere.

However, the problem is not with the people needing government assistance, it's with the companies not paying a living wage.

Some of our citizens work three jobs and do not earn enough to live comfortably.

Imagine... working three jobs and not being able to afford rent and having a tough time feeding your kids. This is reality for many Americans. 'Way too many. They work hard but can not afford basic necessities.

So these citizens of the United States of America apply for "government assistant" and the government agrees to cover the wages they should receive from their employers.

They subsist. They survive. But, they are not living the American Dream.

America is not great again.

Our hard working citizens are not getting more than they deserve as Republicans like to suggest. The companies they work for are.

Our taxes subsidize companies that do not pay a living wage. This is welfare.

Corporate welfare is alive and well in America. As the average American struggles harder and harder every year the stock market grows year after year. The wealthy benefit but we do not.

Our taxes support corporate welfare and I'm against it. You should be too.

The money that corporations do not pay their employees, because they know their employees can rely food stamps, goes directly to their bottom line. It's pure profit. Our tax dollars are their profit, plain and simple.

Our tax dollars do not support our hard working citizens in need, they support corporations that underpay their employees.

Welfare is for corporations. Citizens apply for entitlements when their employer does not pay a living wage.

That's why welfare has to end.

Hard working Americans deserve a good life.

[gibraltar72]

1. And in the meantime??

[tecelote]

3. Vote Blue!

[roamer65]

2. This is why I am for a UBI.

Universal Basic Income.

One unified program. Everyone gets it. No stigma attached anymore.

We pay for it by taxing corporations and the wealthy.

Redistribution of wealth works! In the 1950’s the top tax rate was 91 pct.

[gibraltar72]

8. The billionaires should fear us. Not the other way around.

[onecaliberal]

19. That.

[Yavin4]

4. Are we "the richest country in the world"?

Or are we a country with a lot of rich people in it. Most of our "wealth" is in private hands.

[Roland99]

5. And those unable to work?

People on extended unemployment don’t deserve assistance or food stamps?

The disabled don’t deserve assistance?

People on unpaid medical leave don’t deserve assistance?

[tecelote]

7. Good point!

But, these people should be supported by taxes paid by corporations rather than citizen taxpayers.

Corporations need to pay taxes.

[Roland99]

11. Taxes are taxes. Corp/individual taxes go to the same place

But yes, corporate taxes have dropped precipitously as a percentage of overall taxes paid

And higher marginal tax rates are needed for them and higher income earners

And a tax on capital (see Piketty’s Capital in the 21st Century)

[CountAllVotes]

9. +1

No kidding.

These are the people that tend to get little to no help already.

It is a shameful disgrace IMO.

I am one of them and it sucks!

I don't get any government "assistant" btw!

[Roland99]

12. You can have Ivanka's. But you might want a mask first!

[CountAllVotes]

14. I'll pass

I'll just die alone with my cats! To hell with that! Ack!

[tecelote]

17. In the richest country in the world...

everyone should have a decent standard of living.

Sure, some are going to cheat but should so many more suffer for the few that cheat? No.

Republicans are simply selfish.

We can be so much better. Vote blue and fight for what is right.

[BComplex]

6. I like your logic! In fact, that is a good argument against these rightwingers who are against

"socialism that the liberals want to turn this country into".

It already is socialism. We support what the corporations fail at.

[tecelote]

18. Absolutely!

Socialism for corporations is fine with Republicans because the rich benefit.

Socialism for workers is seen as communism or worse to them. It's time we take care of ourselves and vote all Republicans out.

- Odd that so may poor and struggling workers vote Republican. It's all about messaging. We need to be better at expressing the truth.

[BComplex]

20. Just came from the thread where they're talking about Rick Wilson's ads.

They're clear and hard-hitting, and the topic of "socialism for corporations" would make a great ad campaign, if it was hard hitting and described clearly.

[GeorgeGist]

10. Welfare sounds right to me ...

wel·fare
/ˈwelˌfer/

noun
the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group.

statutory procedure or social effort designed to promote the basic physical and material well-being of people in need.
"the protection of rights to education, housing, and welfare"

NORTH AMERICAN
financial support given to people in need.

[tecelote]

15. If done right, yes.

It is not what it should be these days.

It's been corrupted. The textbook definition does not take in to account corporations not paying taxes.

[msongs]

13. corporations who pay no tax do not put $ in the fund. the $ comes from working people. so

working people are paying themselves welfare out of their own pockets while the corporations skate

[tecelote]

16. Yes!

Exactly. Our taxes instead of theirs.

[AwakeAtLast]

21. Walmart just choked on their tea. n/t