U.S. Deaths due to Coronavirus deaths: 80.022 ....

[mia]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Alex4Martinez]

1. Remember that these numbers are ADDED to regular flu victim count.

Trump and others like to talk about past years' fatalities due to seasonal flu.

Guess what? Covid is not seasonal flu, it's a brand new flu ON TOP of the other regular season flu types for which most of us get vaccinations.

[mia]

4. What do you mean by saying: "...numbers are ADDED to regular flu victim count."?

This is about Covid 19.

[Alex4Martinez]

7. What I mean is that Trump et al show numbers for past years, 51,000, 61,000, etc...

...suggesting that 75,000 for Covid ain't so bad.


BUT.... Covid numbers are like SARS or Ebola, a Novel (new) strain.

There will still be tens of thousands who die from regular seasonal flue, and that number will be in addition to Covid-19 deaths.

[Blue_true]

13. At the current pace, covid19 will overtake the third deadliest virus in US history,

that will likely happen in two and a half more weeks. In less than four weeks after it passes the third most deadly, it will pass the second most deadly and have only the 1918-1921 Flu ahead of it.

I am beginning to wonder whether that 1918 virus was really a "flu" or something like covid19 is now.

[Alex4Martinez]

16. It's likely that the 1918 pandemic was a novel virus like the current one.

These are the wildcard viruses that make the common flu look like a case of the sniffles.

[Blue_true]

17. That is my guess also. Who knows where SAR-COV-2 is headed.

I was thinking recently, SARS-COV-2 is believed by scientists to be a SARS relative that spreads without being as lethal as SARS, SAR-COV-2 is about 60% as lethal to an infected population. What happens if there is a MERS like coronavirus out there and our country is hit by that with Trump still as president? MERS killed 80% of the people that contracted it, quickly burning itself out. But what happens if there is a MERS like virus that silently spreads like SAR-COV-2 and is only 40% as lethal as MERS, with 1.3 million Americans infected, that would work out to 468,000 people dead already - THAT is the risk that we take with a person like Trump in the highest office.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. The real toll is in Excess Deaths. "Confirmed" flu deaths are big under-count, hence estimates far

... hence estimates of flu deaths are much higher in 60,000 range in bad years like 2017-18. They are very inexact but estimate more than just the "confirmed" deaths.

So, likely too are Covid deaths underestimated. Some are officially underestimated in places like Florida and Texas.

But Excess Deaths take into account an average number of deaths week by week from all causes.

For example, which shows some under-count of Covid deaths:



... and under-count in the UK:

[Bad Thoughts]

10. You mean estimate flu fatalities

The huge fatalities numbers for the flu are estimates based on a feeling that six times or more flu deaths go undetected. 80,000 are confirmed CV19 deaths. The estimated deaths are much higher.

[Funtatlaguy]

2. But pretty soon it will magically disappear, right?

[dawg]

11. He said in April ...

but he never said *which* April.

[malaise]

3. Back to work warriors

You must die for the criminally negligent Con aka agent bone spurs the draft-dodger

[BigmanPigman]

5. And an average of 25,000+ new cases a day.

When I check out Worldometers now I notice that the "new case" numbers are in ALL the states now. The ones where it peaked early are going down but now the rest of the states are climbing. Why are we reopening?

I also noticed countries in the Middle East and S America, as well as Russia, India, and Mexico are climbing fast.

[malaise]

6. Is it genocide yet? n/t

[BigmanPigman]

8. I think it has crossed that threshold.

[Celerity]

19. it certainly is semi-genocidal for us PoC, those in the US, versus the white death rates

MAGAts love it.............

wipeout vast swathes the PoC, the poor, and the old, all with one stroke

fuck up the Blue states budgeting, tell them to go pound sand, despite Red states being the biggest takers in the nation

have a built in excuse to pillage trillions and ship it on up to the tippy top of the pyramid of control

cut payroll taxes to help destroy the social safety net

gives the Rethugs a new weapon to try and deligimatise the election with, and a reason for Trump to declare it null and void if he loses

and train the goon squads to get use to storming government building loaded up with a shedload of weapons, plus further the overall divide to maintain the thick viscous white nationalist legions of thugs on the side of the wannabe dictator, and prime them up for coup d'etat regional aid if necessary

[clutterbox1830]

9. Anyone seen the movie, 'V for Vendetta". 80000 dead and people eventually rioted over a pandemic.

I realize this movie set in fictional England. However, here in real-life at least 40% of the American citizens still support the president. *sigh*

[Funtatlaguy]

12. Great movie

[blitzen]

15. And we're up to 28.5% of the global total. n/t

[spanone]

18. This is absolute insanity.