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RandySF

(57,581 posts)
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:03 PM May 2020

Dr. Brix: 'There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust'

According to a new bombshell report from The Washington Post, the White House Coronavirus Task Force response administrator is doubting the administration’s numbers.

Dr. Deborah Birx reportedly made the comments during a Wednesday meeting.

“During a task force meeting Wednesday, a heated discussion broke out between Deborah Birx, the physician who oversees the administration’s coronavirus response, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated,” the newspaper reported.



https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/there-is-nothing-from-the-cdc-that-i-can-trust-coronavirus-task-force-response-administrator-deborah-birx/



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Dr. Brix: 'There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust' (Original Post) RandySF May 2020 OP
If anything Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #1
This ProfessorGAC May 2020 #8
Right! Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #29
+1 Baitball Blogger May 2020 #31
I've always Delphinus May 2020 #34
Brix is certainly becoming a good little Trumper it seems. dem4decades May 2020 #2
Seems to have been a long time coming Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #7
THIS malaise May 2020 #36
Seems that way to me also; I was hoping babylonsister May 2020 #10
Yes. Newest Reality May 2020 #26
Brix sold out Thomas Hurt May 2020 #3
Did Corgigal May 2020 #4
and we should trust someone like you agingdem May 2020 #5
Maybe someone can tighten one of those scarves idziak4ever1234 May 2020 #6
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2020 #37
Like I believe anything Birx GP6971 May 2020 #9
Nothing Timewas May 2020 #11
Et tu, Brix? n/t blitzen May 2020 #12
Birx sold her soul. sheshe2 May 2020 #13
Trump touched her soul. Like Rick Wilson said " Everything Trump Touches Dies" dem4decades May 2020 #15
I agree to a point. sheshe2 May 2020 #21
It is all Trump's fault anyway. Caliman73 May 2020 #14
CLOSED Goonch May 2020 #16
Birx is Projecting. Cha May 2020 #17
This is the new narrative- gaslighting America that the death rate is going down Fiendish Thingy May 2020 #18
Already happening durablend May 2020 #20
Interesting that Birx does not offer a source for her claim of declining deaths nt Fiendish Thingy May 2020 #19
trump's very good brain brer cat May 2020 #23
I don't trust Birx or Redfield dflprincess May 2020 #22
Just being a good German poli-junkie May 2020 #24
No one, and I mean NO ONE listens to her any more. BigmanPigman May 2020 #25
When we win on day one Birx retires. Demsrule86 May 2020 #27
Weird -- because Obama's CDC sure nipped the Ebola outbreak in the bud Blue Owl May 2020 #28
Yep! I remember the success with stopping Ebola TreadSoftly May 2020 #32
frustrated with the CDC's antiquated system JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2020 #30
Trying to kiss Trump's humongous ass? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #33
Then trust your Dear Leader and OD on hydroxychloroquine Yeehah May 2020 #35

ProfessorGAC

(64,413 posts)
8. This
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:11 PM
May 2020

With data systems, antiquated would include slow & perhaps more cumbersome data entry.
So, it's illogical to suggest an antiquated system would inflate values just because of it being old.
Badly designed software could create issues with projections. But either the people died or they didn't. And the medical examiner/coroner said it was COVID or not!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,353 posts)
7. Seems to have been a long time coming
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:11 PM
May 2020

I had my suspicions but when she tried to clean up his "disinfectant" mess by attacking the media, I knew for sure.

agingdem

(7,754 posts)
5. and we should trust someone like you
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:11 PM
May 2020

a trump ass-kissing revisionist/apologist...a bobblehead so afraid of losing her job and access to the White House she sold her reputation and her soul?..so when are you going to down a Trump Bleach Smoothie Dr. Brix???

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
13. Birx sold her soul.
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:25 PM
May 2020

She has approved agonizing death to thousands by ignoring the disease.

She has blood on her hands.

I read she had a sick grandchild. I would never wish on hers what she wishes on ours.

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
21. I agree to a point.
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:53 PM
May 2020

Birx had to have that inside her long before don touched her.
She is as guilty as he is.

One more fact, Dr. Fauci and two others have self quarantined after being exposed to the virus by Katie Miller who was part of the task force. Deborah has not. She does not give one shit about the safety of the American people. Just like don and mike. Sad how far she has fallen. She was well know for her work in HIV/AIDS immunology, vaccine research, and global health. She helped so many and is now leaving many more to die.

I just don't get it.

Caliman73

(11,690 posts)
14. It is all Trump's fault anyway.
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:34 PM
May 2020

He has been in charge of the administration (IE the CDC) for over 3 years now. If they are not trustworthy then it is because of Trump and his poor management.

If she can't trust the CDC then she is saying that she she can't trust Trump. The CDC is his responsibility. If she says that he inherited bad things from President Obama, then Trump has not been competent to improve anything in the last 3 and a half years he has been in power.

All of that should be put back on Trump.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,361 posts)
18. This is the new narrative- gaslighting America that the death rate is going down
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:48 PM
May 2020

And you can’t trust previously trustworthy sources.

Next up: hospitals and coroners will be accused of exaggerating death tolls.

durablend

(7,414 posts)
20. Already happening
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:50 PM
May 2020

"Next up: hospitals and coroners will be accused of exaggerating death tolls."

Lots of cries of "cover-ups" the past few weeks

BigmanPigman

(51,430 posts)
25. No one, and I mean NO ONE listens to her any more.
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:10 PM
May 2020

A failed doctor and LOSER with no integrity.

Just go and get lost and shut the fuck up, you complicit murderer. Do something useful with that scarf.

Blue Owl

(49,902 posts)
28. Weird -- because Obama's CDC sure nipped the Ebola outbreak in the bud
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:44 PM
May 2020

Excerpt from article at: https://www.facebook.com/david.furnish/posts/10221822441167061

In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat and died a brutal death a day later. After that, there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics, and communication.

Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the U.S.

Working with the U.N. and the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the U.S. through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.

Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.

Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30, 2014, we detected our first case in the U.S.A. A man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas and somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola but later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.

The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic, but thanks to the actions of our government under President Obama, it never did. Those THREE EBOLA CONFIRMED CASES were the ONLY cases of Ebola in the U.S.A. because Obama did what needed to be done THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIRST CASE.

Ebola is even more contagious than COVID-19. Had Obama not acted swiftly, millions of Americans would have died horrible, painful, deaths like something out of a horror movie (if you’ve never seen how Ebola kills, it’s horrific).

It is ironic because since President Obama acted decisively we forget about his actions since the disease never reached our shores.

Now the story of COVID-19 and Trump’s response that we know about thus far:

Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC, and he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country - a position created by the Obama administration.

When the outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was China’s problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war, why should he help them?

In January he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasn’t done to prevent it. He ignored the report, not trusting our own intelligence.

When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a plethora of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests “better” if we needed them. However, he never ordered U.S. companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own.

According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trump’s FDA.

When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a “liberal hoax” conjured up to try to make him “look bad after impeachment failed.”

The next time Trump spoke of COVID-19, we had SIXTY-FOUR CONFIRMED CASES but Trump went before microphones and told the American public that we only had FIFTEEN cases “and pretty soon that number will be close to zero.” All while the disease was spreading, he took no action to get more tests.

What Trump did was to stop flights from China from coming here. This was too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the U.S. by Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.

As of the moment, I am posting this, the evening of April 17, 2020, we have 1.34 million COVID-19 CONFIRMED CASES and 79,696 COVID-19 DEATHS in the U.S.A. The actual number is undoubtedly more than triple that amount given ongoing limited availability of testing.

TreadSoftly

(219 posts)
32. Yep! I remember the success with stopping Ebola
Sun May 10, 2020, 02:27 AM
May 2020

Obama's people were prepared and logical. The first Ebola guy (who drove the next two cases) LIED to the airport people and they still got him.

I never dreamed we'd have such a nightmare. Damn the arrogant politicians -- China and USA -- who put pride above science.

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