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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDr. Brix: 'There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust'
According to a new bombshell report from The Washington Post, the White House Coronavirus Task Force response administrator is doubting the administrations numbers.
Dr. Deborah Birx reportedly made the comments during a Wednesday meeting.
During a task force meeting Wednesday, a heated discussion broke out between Deborah Birx, the physician who oversees the administrations coronavirus response, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birx and others were frustrated with the CDCs antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics such as mortality rate and case count by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated, the newspaper reported.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/there-is-nothing-from-the-cdc-that-i-can-trust-coronavirus-task-force-response-administrator-deborah-birx/
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,353 posts)antiquated systems seem like they would UNDERCOUNT the numbers
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)With data systems, antiquated would include slow & perhaps more cumbersome data entry.
So, it's illogical to suggest an antiquated system would inflate values just because of it being old.
Badly designed software could create issues with projections. But either the people died or they didn't. And the medical examiner/coroner said it was COVID or not!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,353 posts)Birx is a tool now (if she wasn't always)
Baitball Blogger
(46,570 posts)Delphinus
(11,808 posts)thought she was. Sold her proverbial soul.
dem4decades
(11,241 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,353 posts)I had my suspicions but when she tried to clean up his "disinfectant" mess by attacking the media, I knew for sure.
malaise
(267,784 posts)She's a tool
babylonsister
(170,955 posts)she was going to call him out. No dice.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Her IV-drip of Trump-flavored Kool-Aid is starting to show.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)she shoot up some Clorox or something. Sounding brain fried.
agingdem
(7,754 posts)a trump ass-kissing revisionist/apologist...a bobblehead so afraid of losing her job and access to the White House she sold her reputation and her soul?..so when are you going to down a Trump Bleach Smoothie Dr. Brix???
idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)GP6971
(31,013 posts)or anyone in this administration says.
Timewas
(2,174 posts)I do not believe one iota of anything that comes out of any government agency anymore
blitzen
(4,572 posts)sheshe2
(83,319 posts)She has approved agonizing death to thousands by ignoring the disease.
She has blood on her hands.
I read she had a sick grandchild. I would never wish on hers what she wishes on ours.
dem4decades
(11,241 posts)sheshe2
(83,319 posts)Birx had to have that inside her long before don touched her.
She is as guilty as he is.
One more fact, Dr. Fauci and two others have self quarantined after being exposed to the virus by Katie Miller who was part of the task force. Deborah has not. She does not give one shit about the safety of the American people. Just like don and mike. Sad how far she has fallen. She was well know for her work in HIV/AIDS immunology, vaccine research, and global health. She helped so many and is now leaving many more to die.
I just don't get it.
Caliman73
(11,690 posts)He has been in charge of the administration (IE the CDC) for over 3 years now. If they are not trustworthy then it is because of Trump and his poor management.
If she can't trust the CDC then she is saying that she she can't trust Trump. The CDC is his responsibility. If she says that he inherited bad things from President Obama, then Trump has not been competent to improve anything in the last 3 and a half years he has been in power.
All of that should be put back on Trump.
Cha
(295,899 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,361 posts)And you cant trust previously trustworthy sources.
Next up: hospitals and coroners will be accused of exaggerating death tolls.
durablend
(7,414 posts)"Next up: hospitals and coroners will be accused of exaggerating death tolls."
Lots of cries of "cover-ups" the past few weeks
Fiendish Thingy
(15,361 posts)brer cat
(24,401 posts)and his ample gut.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)they're both Trump stooges.
poli-junkie
(991 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,430 posts)A failed doctor and LOSER with no integrity.
Just go and get lost and shut the fuck up, you complicit murderer. Do something useful with that scarf.
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)Blue Owl
(49,902 posts)Excerpt from article at: https://www.facebook.com/david.furnish/posts/10221822441167061
In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat and died a brutal death a day later. After that, there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics, and communication.
Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the U.S.
Working with the U.N. and the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the U.S. through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.
Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.
Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30, 2014, we detected our first case in the U.S.A. A man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas and somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola but later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.
The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic, but thanks to the actions of our government under President Obama, it never did. Those THREE EBOLA CONFIRMED CASES were the ONLY cases of Ebola in the U.S.A. because Obama did what needed to be done THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIRST CASE.
Ebola is even more contagious than COVID-19. Had Obama not acted swiftly, millions of Americans would have died horrible, painful, deaths like something out of a horror movie (if youve never seen how Ebola kills, its horrific).
It is ironic because since President Obama acted decisively we forget about his actions since the disease never reached our shores.
Now the story of COVID-19 and Trumps response that we know about thus far:
Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC, and he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).
Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country - a position created by the Obama administration.
When the outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was Chinas problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war, why should he help them?
In January he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasnt done to prevent it. He ignored the report, not trusting our own intelligence.
When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a plethora of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests better if we needed them. However, he never ordered U.S. companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own.
According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trumps FDA.
When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a liberal hoax conjured up to try to make him look bad after impeachment failed.
The next time Trump spoke of COVID-19, we had SIXTY-FOUR CONFIRMED CASES but Trump went before microphones and told the American public that we only had FIFTEEN cases and pretty soon that number will be close to zero. All while the disease was spreading, he took no action to get more tests.
What Trump did was to stop flights from China from coming here. This was too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the U.S. by Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.
As of the moment, I am posting this, the evening of April 17, 2020, we have 1.34 million COVID-19 CONFIRMED CASES and 79,696 COVID-19 DEATHS in the U.S.A. The actual number is undoubtedly more than triple that amount given ongoing limited availability of testing.
TreadSoftly
(219 posts)Obama's people were prepared and logical. The first Ebola guy (who drove the next two cases) LIED to the airport people and they still got him.
I never dreamed we'd have such a nightmare. Damn the arrogant politicians -- China and USA -- who put pride above science.
JustFiveMoreMinutes
(2,133 posts)Poising the well.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,063 posts)Yeehah
(4,520 posts)you pathetic trump butt-licker.