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kentuck

(111,499 posts)
Mon May 11, 2020, 06:45 AM May 2020

The new "loyalty test" from the White House

It is whether or not you choose to wear a mask?

Everybody knows that Donald Trump does not support the wearing of masks as a preventative for the coronavirus. He has publicly stated so.

When he sees the protestors in the street huddled together, without masks, he knows those are "his" people. When he sees VP Pence go into the Mayo Clinic and not wear a mask, he knows why he is not wearing one? When he gathers groups around him in the White House, he knows they don't wear masks because they support him.

When he calls over 20 Congressmen for a meeting and none of them wear a mask, he knows they are loyal to him.

These people are willing to put their health, perhaps their lives, at risk to stay on the good side of their Leader.

Is it really that different from the oath that Hitler required of his Reichswehr in 1934: “I swear to God this holy oath, that I will offer unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German Reich and People, Adolf Hitler, the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and that I am prepared as a brave soldier, to lay down my life at any time for this oath.”

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The new "loyalty test" from the White House (Original Post) kentuck May 2020 OP
He's finally found his version of hitler's yellow star. n/t CincyDem May 2020 #1
Not exactly true. The blood oath example given is this thread... machoneman May 2020 #22
Yep keithbvadu2 May 2020 #27
Are you willing to die for me?...nt. N_E_1 for Tennis May 2020 #2
Right wingers are "the ones they always warned us about." LastDemocratInSC May 2020 #3
+1 2naSalit May 2020 #6
Same for Christians who support him. rickyhall May 2020 #20
What Christians? CaptYossarian May 2020 #23
Domestic terrorists at this point. Evolve Dammit May 2020 #4
Showing or having intelligence is disloyal UpInArms May 2020 #5
+1 2naSalit May 2020 #7
Truth is the enemy. lagomorph777 May 2020 #14
I don't think it's that. AirmensMom May 2020 #8
There is a left-wing version of COVID misinformation. yardwork May 2020 #17
That's horrifying. AirmensMom May 2020 #25
There is a lot of disinformation being promoted. yardwork May 2020 #29
Friendly Fascism bucolic_frolic May 2020 #9
As much as I cannot stand Trump Timmygoat May 2020 #10
A man hears what he wants to hear and he disregards the rest. Chainfire May 2020 #28
I'm still befuddled that other than the most spineless, kacekwl May 2020 #11
Masks have been missing on the Dem Governors as well FakeNoose May 2020 #12
I don't know about the others, but Cuomo appears to be distancing. lagomorph777 May 2020 #16
IDK Cosmocat May 2020 #18
Oh...that can only be a good thing for the nation! Trueblue Texan May 2020 #13
They will have to pry my mask from my cold dead face. gordianot May 2020 #15
Divine consciousness in man can be asleep vlyons May 2020 #19
So sad and so true Kentuck. What amazes me is that in all Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #21
Best thing in all is that randr May 2020 #24
Excellent. D23MIURG23 May 2020 #26

machoneman

(4,074 posts)
22. Not exactly true. The blood oath example given is this thread...
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:27 AM
May 2020

...is spot-on, as the Brits woudl say.

It was a Hitlerite sworn statement his followers had to verbally give to swear fealty to him. One could also say the the swastika symbol on the brassard worn on the upper arm sleeve was the visibile reminder, like Republiscums not wearing a mask, of fealty Third Reich and Hitler.

The yellow and other colored stars marked one for, ultimately, execution.

keithbvadu2

(37,941 posts)
27. Yep
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:38 AM
May 2020

Oath of Allegiance - Pre and post 1934
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

(before August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will at all times loyally and honestly
serve my people and country
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

The Fuehrer Oath
(effective August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

LastDemocratInSC

(3,706 posts)
3. Right wingers are "the ones they always warned us about."
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:21 AM
May 2020

Always so vocal about tyrants, and ready to rise up to save the nation if a tyrant emerges. And now that we have one who is doing genuine harm to our citizens and laws they are stumbling over each other to kiss his ring and adore him.

So, to answer your question, it's no different from what happened in 1934.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
20. Same for Christians who support him.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:19 AM
May 2020

They've always talked about "the Anti-Christ" then swear allegiance to one.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
23. What Christians?
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:29 AM
May 2020

Actions speak louder than words. These goobers are anything but Christlike.

I could say I'm from Mars. That doesn't make me a Martian through mere words.

AirmensMom

(14,681 posts)
8. I don't think it's that.
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:04 AM
May 2020

Well, maybe some of it is. My daughter, who is not a Trumper, said yesterday that the whole coronavirus is "survival of the fittest," much ado about nothing, etc. They all apparently think they're too fit to die from it. The irony is that most of the people who spout that lie are about as far from fit as one can be.

Oh, and I'm feeling a bit sick this morning even though I haven't been anywhere. Cold, flu, or COVID-19, it was a gift from a family member.

yardwork

(62,330 posts)
17. There is a left-wing version of COVID misinformation.
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:45 AM
May 2020

There is a subculture of anti-vax, anti-science, left-wing, conspiracy-theory fueled "don't tell me what to do" woo-woo thinking that is making the rounds among young people and lefties on the internet.

It's basically the same message, but the propaganda has been tweaked to appeal to the left.

AirmensMom

(14,681 posts)
25. That's horrifying.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:35 AM
May 2020

I'm wondering if any of this will change when more people lose friends and relatives.

I told my daughter that we are handling it worse than any other country and have 1/3 of the cases in the world. She told me to move somewhere else then. I give up.

yardwork

(62,330 posts)
29. There is a lot of disinformation being promoted.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:25 PM
May 2020

The overall goal is to influence enough people to keep Trump in the White House.

I hope you feel better.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
10. As much as I cannot stand Trump
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:10 AM
May 2020

You have to agree that VP Pence is a big lump of NOTHING, he sickens me every time he talks saying how great Trump is and how he agrees with him. I think he keeps his job by licking Trump's shoes every day.

Also, for someone who pretends to be so goody goody and respectful of his wife, how do you think he feels about Trump's womanizing and hanging out with women and then keeping them quiet by giving them money.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
28. A man hears what he wants to hear and he disregards the rest.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:58 AM
May 2020

Pence is a religious fanatic so he is not bound by the same standards as the rest of us. To accept religion is to surrender you logic at the alter. Pence is apparently very good at the concept.

Of course, I could be wrong, and Pence is just willing to sacrifice his dignity to remain in the public spotlight.

kacekwl

(7,156 posts)
11. I'm still befuddled that other than the most spineless,
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:14 AM
May 2020

ignorant person with absolutely no self esteem would fear, respect or whatever it is to follow this clown over a cliff. What causes a person to sink so low ?

FakeNoose

(33,856 posts)
12. Masks have been missing on the Dem Governors as well
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:25 AM
May 2020

Andrew Cuomo, Tom Wolf, JB Pritzger and others have appeared on television and internet news interviews without masks. Also most of the Congressional and Senate members (with a few notable exceptions) have been interviewed without facemasks. I think this is more vanity than anything else.

As for the loyalty of Chump's White House and administration officials, the willful blindness is always there whether the masks are on or off. He has face-to-face meetings with unmasked people because he probably doesn't recognize them with their masks on.



Cosmocat

(14,658 posts)
18. IDK
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:53 AM
May 2020

IMO, in controlled settings meant for public consumption, specifically the press conferences, you set them them up to have ample space and allow the people speaking to not wear masks while speaking on camera.

Just way too off putting to have someone speaking to a camera with a mask on.

The issue is how are they are behaving off camera, specifically in their work settings and even more so when they go into public.



Trueblue Texan

(2,557 posts)
13. Oh...that can only be a good thing for the nation!
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:27 AM
May 2020

I hope they are ALL loyalists! Especially the Covid positive ones! Delightful!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. So sad and so true Kentuck. What amazes me is that in all
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:20 AM
May 2020

The staff, all the advisors, all the agency workers, there aren't dozens upon dozens speaking out. They should organize sub-rosa and meet on the same day with McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, and John Roberts.

randr

(12,423 posts)
24. Best thing in all is that
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:33 AM
May 2020

when I go to the grocery stores the majority of people are protected/protecting. The people without masks look naked.

D23MIURG23

(2,879 posts)
26. Excellent.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:36 AM
May 2020

This is exactly as it should be. If they don't believe in covid let them put their money where their mouths are and get it.

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