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freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:55 AM May 2020

Will Roger Stone Ever Do Time?



Is Roger Stone ever going to jail? I think, at this point, it is obvious that he will never serve time. Convicted in February of witness tampering and coming remarkably close to threatening the presiding judge, Stone continues to roam free while he works on his appeal. Why are the prosecutors trying to hold any of the Trump crime family responsible? Taxpayers paid for a conviction of obvious law breakers only to see the system work in favor of those who curry favor with Trump.

Trump himself said General Flynn was caught lying to the FBI and now all is forgiven…worse than that, in Trump’s world and in the mind of his cult followers Flynn is now a martyr to be pitied for his mistreatment. He pled guilty but somehow that doesn’t matter anymore.

So far, they are winning. The only way they lose is through the vote in November. Please do everything you can to remove this scourge from the White House.
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Will Roger Stone Ever Do Time? (Original Post) freesqueeze May 2020 OP
It's frustrating and ridiculous. But one consolation: He's broke. Mike 03 May 2020 #1
Thanks for that ... I guess freesqueeze May 2020 #2
What did he do for a "living" except destroy people? Boomerproud May 2020 #3
Consultant, Lobbyist, Author and Convicted Felon freesqueeze May 2020 #10
He will con his way back to wealth in a couple years. Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #7
Does Fame Lead to Wealth? freesqueeze May 2020 #12
I bet he had a lot more than 5 million. It's just parked somewhere where he can't touch it for now. Gidney N Cloyd May 2020 #8
Lawyers got it all FakeNoose May 2020 #9
Did He Need the Lawyers to Get the Special Treatment? freesqueeze May 2020 #17
Well I wouldn't know FakeNoose May 2020 #18
If not, may the virus take him. WhiteTara May 2020 #4
I do not wish death upon my political opponents. freesqueeze May 2020 #19
We all die and not karma WhiteTara May 2020 #20
At least he has been muzzled. pwb May 2020 #5
Muzzled? Like a Basset Hound? freesqueeze May 2020 #11
Nope. None of them will Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #6
It's a Shame...Really freesqueeze May 2020 #14
No. old guy May 2020 #13
Stall it till January. Corgigal May 2020 #15
What Happens In January? freesqueeze May 2020 #16

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. It's frustrating and ridiculous. But one consolation: He's broke.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:08 AM
May 2020

For some context, his net worth two years ago was an estimated $5 million.

How Roger Stone’s Net Worth Dropped to $50,000

This means that they have been forced into the situation of giving up their luxurious home in Fort Lauderdale, which is estimated to have cost the couple around $9,500 per month. It first became clear that the Stones had moved out of the property in February 2019 when a for rent by owner sign appeared outside the property. This is the home from where he was arrested by the FBI in January. The same article reveals that his home is not all that Roger Stone has lost as a result of the charges made against him. He has also lost his car, his savings, and his insurance. Worse than that, he claims he has also lost the ability to make a living until he can clear his name. When Stone gave out this information to his online followers, he also used the opportunity to request that they made donations to support him.


https://moneyinc.com/roger-stone-net-worth/

Not that long ago someone here posted a story that reported he was living in a one bedroom apartment.

freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
10. Consultant, Lobbyist, Author and Convicted Felon
Mon May 11, 2020, 12:31 PM
May 2020

This how he's described on wikipedia. I think that lines up well with your summarization of him.

freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
12. Does Fame Lead to Wealth?
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:41 PM
May 2020

It does seem like the right kind of fame can lead to easy money, speaking fees, consultations, book advances, or TV commentary. I have a co-worker tell me years ago that self-promotion was more important that skill, talent, education and experience combined. It seems like people like Trump and Stone prove his point.

FakeNoose

(32,610 posts)
9. Lawyers got it all
Mon May 11, 2020, 12:28 PM
May 2020

His lawyers made a shit-ton of money, but they couldn't get him off. At least not yet.
No pardon from Chump either.



freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
17. Did He Need the Lawyers to Get the Special Treatment?
Tue May 12, 2020, 09:55 AM
May 2020

Could he have used a bargain basement "Saul Goodman" and used his connections to skate on these charges? He was convicted. This was a success for the prosecution until Justice Dpt stepped in.

FakeNoose

(32,610 posts)
18. Well I wouldn't know
Tue May 12, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

... but he's been raising money to pay lawyers for a long time.

I think he had a GoFundMe or something a few years back, didn't he?

And yes - it was a win for the prosecutors. He didn't beat the charges, he's just using a lot of delaying tactics that are working.

freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
19. I do not wish death upon my political opponents.
Tue May 12, 2020, 03:02 PM
May 2020

If they die...they can never reform. And reform of your opponents is the greatest political victory. If you supported gay marriage or legal weed before it was favored by more than 25% of the population, now you have a deep satisfaction of time proving you right.

I notice Trump's 2016 supporters fit into three categories: 1; those who are still vocally supportive, 2; those who are oddly silent on the subject, and 3; those who have turned against him completely. As of today I know not one person who fits into category 3, but I know they're out there. Seeing that group grow and flourish is immensely satisfying.

freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
11. Muzzled? Like a Basset Hound?
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:40 PM
May 2020

I seem to remember there was an issue with a judge that got irritated at his giving interviews and defending himself in the right-wing press. I can only guess that has stopped since I'm not much for watching those type of "news" outlets.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
6. Nope. None of them will
Mon May 11, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

They never have to pay for what they do as long as they haven't pissed off anyone more powerful then themselves.

freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
14. It's a Shame...Really
Mon May 11, 2020, 06:17 PM
May 2020

Prosecutors asked for 7-9 years for the triple conviction (obstruction, lying to congress, and witness tampering). Then Barr gets involved and he gets only 40 months. Now, he's working his appeal having never done ANY time. There's a woman in jail because she lied to get her child into a better public school, but this guy walks free.

I think it's more than not pissing them off, more like publicly worshiping. I have a feeling that Trump won't pardon him until his second term (oh cheeses, no) because it would hurt his chances of winning re-election (my heart...my pills...). Oh forget it. You get the idea.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
13. No.
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:59 PM
May 2020

We also don't know how many off shore accounts he has and how much money is in each. He will live out his golden years in luxury.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
15. Stall it till January.
Mon May 11, 2020, 06:18 PM
May 2020

Don’t do anything yet, if any of that is legal. Or, if the rule of law counts.

freesqueeze

(1,384 posts)
16. What Happens In January?
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:15 PM
May 2020

If you're talking about Trump losing, surely he will pardon all his criminal conspirators on the way out.

If he's re-elected (urp...gak) he'll have no restraint and pardoning Stone will be lost in the avalanche of corruption he releases.

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