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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat happens when a narcissist finally realizes the virus is a threat to him?
We may be about to find out. People in the white house are now being ordered to wear masks. People are being tested everyday in the White house. Trump is scared, it will be interesting to see how Trump explains this to his voters. Will his voters notice how Trump is protecting himself and at the same time telling his voters everything is great, it's a hoax, go back to work, you're safe. You don't need testing, go back to work.
Man, this is some crazy shit we are witnessing.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Warpy
(111,228 posts)but I don't see him as a full bore malignant narcissist. He's able to fake things like concern and empathy, which is completely beyond a malignant narcissist. A malignant narcissist won't even try to fake it because he really doesn't see the need, the spotlight belongs on him, not lame puppies or grieving families.
The first time someone near him ends up in an ICU, I see him going full bore Howard Hughes, retreating to his NY penthouse or Mar a Loco, barricaded behind a wall of locked doors and security guards and living on Big Macs and candy bars because maybe those won't have worker cooties (ha!) on them.
Wounded Bear
(58,626 posts)he's burned that bridge already.
Warpy
(111,228 posts)and can't serve him with subpoenas.
I wonder just what they're going to do with that gilt and marble monstrosity. Maybe Melania will get it in the divorce.
My money is on Mar a Loco and 2 days a week when the golf course is closed to everybody but him.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)He'll cover it up. Like the vainglorious turd that he is.
PatSeg
(47,361 posts)his fear and anxiety. He is a man who does not handle personal crisis well and is so paranoid about everything. This is one time he can't just lash out at the problem, because COVID-19 doesn't care. What is he going to do? Call the virus a "low life loser"? I picture him becoming very unhinged on a regular basis.
On top of everything else, he will be cooped up in the White House, something he already hates. I picture a Howard Hughes type meltdown.
wnylib
(21,417 posts)How will we know the difference?
normal unhinged 100 fold.
hlthe2b
(102,197 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Stuart G
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AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)He'll get intense state-of-the-art spare-no-expense care, and if he comes out of it ok, he'll trumpet some bullshit fake cure like his Hydroxychloroquine shit, even if he didn't take a single dose.
He will gleefully lead hordes of gullible and impressionable people straight to their doom.
wnylib
(21,417 posts)that it was a miracle and God's will so that he can continue as president indefinitely. The new Messiah to take the place of Jesus.
But, since he is supposed to be such a germophobe, I don't understand why he has been so lax about hand-shaking, social distancing, and general preventive hygiene with coronavirus.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)He's above natural law. He's a god.
Until he isn't.
wnylib
(21,417 posts)They fear germs. He should have been afraid of this germ from the start.
Aristus
(66,309 posts)"What a businessman the world is losing!..."
thucythucy
(8,043 posts)Love the reference to the Great Fiddler.
Aristus
(66,309 posts)Nero, too cowardly to kill himself, had a servant slash his throat.
RainCaster
(10,857 posts)A narcissist really believes all that shit he spews. And more.
I am invincible.
Nobody can do it better than me.
I have never needed to ask for forgiveness.
My leadership has been the best.
He will never see it coming.
Texin
(2,594 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,577 posts)It will be a better Death's Door than Loser Lincoln had. Just like the broken military and shelves that were empty of Covid-19 vaccine, the "previous administration" (code for "Obama" ) left him, there was no Death's Door in the WH basement, and so he needed to put Jared in charge of procuring a new one. This is a fantastic Death's Door, the types of which the world has never seen before. Believe me.
flying_wahini
(6,588 posts)pwb
(11,258 posts)Death is for the regular folk.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)And got it while in France negotiating the Versailles treaty....never was the same mentally, and many historians believe the harsh sanctions put on Germany, due to his mental acquiescence, caused the rise of Hitlers nazism ... cautionary tale
Excerpt from the book The Great Influenza
President Woodrow Wilson caught influenza on April 3, 1919, when he was in France negotiating the end of World War I. The illness had a tragic effect, for him as well as the world at large.
After his bout with the flu, Wilson was never the same. Future President Herbert Hoover remarked that after his illness, Wilsons mind lost resiliency; others noticed that he wasnt as quick and easily became mentally exhausted. Wilson also suffered from spells of paranoia: he was utterly convinced that his home was filled with French spies.
Newly weakened, he suddenly reversed his long-held position on the peace negotiation, and agreed wholesale to the terms proposed by France, which included harsh economic sanctions on Germany. These terms would be ruinous for Germany. The Treaty of Versailles would directly lead to economic hardship, political chaos, and the rise of Adolf Hitler.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)it's hard to imagine him changing if he survives this virus, or getting worse.
he should have been convicted and removed. he should have been removed via the 25th amendment in 2017. he should never have been allowed within 10 miles of the WH. i blame republicans for it all. putin could only have had the influence he had without them.
BComplex
(8,029 posts)without speaking his name for the entire year before the election. All you heard 24/7 was Trump this, Donald Trump that, over and over and over. And that wasn't just Fox "news"....who actually seemed to be the only news station that showed a bunch of republicans that hated him; Lindsay Graham for one.
As much as I blame Fox "news" for the destruction of our country in general, the other media outlets were trying so hard to get ratings that they made it sound like trump was the only person in America running for president.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)been failed by our 4th estate.
Aussie105
(5,366 posts)But news sells, be it good or bad.
Any media outlet that said 'Our leader is a nutter, and we are going to ignore him' would have gone downhill in ratings and revenue very quickly.
Trump is like a demented hyperactive older relative. You can't help but watch him, just to see what idiotic thing he will do next.
Dan
(3,542 posts)calimary
(81,189 posts)I have to fight like hell with myself these days. Everything I learned in Catholic school, and about karma and all that other stuff, tells me it's wrong to wish evil upon someone else.
And with him, that's all I can do, instinctively. My instant reflex is to wish evil upon these evildoers. "I hope they get sick..." and worse. And then I start feeling REALLY guilty about that, so I back away from it.
There's this French saying "Honi soit qui mal y pense." Rough translation - "woe to him who thinks evil." I try to live by that, but I often fall rather short.
BComplex
(8,029 posts)Catholic school and all.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)plotted assassination attempts on Adolf Hitler. And, I, for one, consider them all heroes. Your feelings are understandable. We really need to vote Trump the hell out of office. And, once he is gone, I hope the state of NY convicts him and throws his ass in prison.
AdamGG
(1,288 posts)either way, incapacitating Trump could probably only help.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)In any case, he definitely was not the same person after contracting the flu.
malaise
(268,856 posts)I'm waiting for him to start coughing on mike
barbtries
(28,787 posts)why doesn't he? he should be laid out too weak to tweet. in an induced coma on a ventilator. and whatever comes after that.
Chicagogrl1
(418 posts)Every single minute of every single day! He deserves nothing less.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)It can be transmitted by semen.
kairos12
(12,850 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)Trump and his base going wild in admiration of participants.
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)Texin
(2,594 posts)Factoring in his glaringly obvious cognitive erosion at its current stage, he will be too impaired to serve. My father had a very severe influenza infection more than a decade ago, and he never really recovered. Although he probably was in the early stages of dementia, we never observed any signs of it. That is, until after that infection. He was vague for want of a better word for about a year and then he began to exhibit extreme anxiety and paranoid delusions and devolved from there. tRump wouldn't just bounce back after Covid19. Boris Johnson may have survived, but he's fifty-ish (and we don't know exactly how physically active he is at the moment and how it may have affected other bodily systems). Maybe he's fine, but maybe he's not.
oldsoftie
(12,517 posts)Certainly not the norm though
milestogo
(16,829 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It will be a pity party the likes of which the world has never seen as Donald Trump laments how unfair everything is for him.
alterfurz
(2,473 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)He's probably been terrified this whole time.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)hay rick
(7,603 posts)bluestarone
(16,894 posts)But my prayers go unanswered!
Runningdawg
(4,516 posts)On camera, they are asked to remove them. Misery loves company.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Daily they jam a large Q-tip into the nose of drug snorting mentally ill coward. His sinuses are most likely very sensitive due to decades of abuse. Everyone I know who has been tested for Covid-19 has described the process as painful. May his isolation in a living hell only get worse.
BarbD
(1,192 posts)But then, they probably believe the "Very stable genius" can cure anything.
Caliman73
(11,728 posts)It is the casual voter, the 46% that didn't vote in the 2016 election. Trump's base is small and brainwashed. There are those who bought into the populism and "outsider" mentality, but have since seen the reality.
We need to get more people involved and getting the correct information.
ProfessorGAC
(64,971 posts)...100,000 of the "don't trust Hillary" or "shake things up" voters.
Heck, if 150,000 to 200,000 just sit it out, Joe wins if voting patterns mirror 2016.
I'm not into predicting because I sure didn't see 2016's outcome before the fact.
I didn't expect a blow out, but I wasn't expecting this!
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)floating through the air from the corona virus.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)It never matters until it affects them. Pee on the peons, until they start to get wet. No law is necessary for the peasants... until I realize I am one of the peasants.
I guess we have to call them GOPutins. The word conservative is a joke... a total misuse of the word. They have harnessed it and hide behind it, but it has no relationship to who they are. Better to call them the selfish self-centered self righteous anti Christians... but that title is way too long. They can be identified with the GOP and their Master Putin.... and then the description I gave above.
We should break out into laughter when they refer to themselves as conservatives. Their conservatism is that of trumpf. Hypocrites and lunatics. Self-righteous assholes.
Javaman
(62,510 posts)BComplex
(8,029 posts)Will he toss Pence off the ticket?
JI7
(89,244 posts)to try to use as why her couldn't have done many things he was accused 9f.
Dale Neiburg
(698 posts)I don't believe he is one. Apart from his history of unprotected sex with prostitutes, he can eat food from the Mar-a-Lago kitchen, with its apparently near-cnstant code violations.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I keep hearing people say it, but he doesn't act the least bit concerned about germs. I just don't see it. I don't think he is a germophobe at all.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Of course they'll believe it. The logical part of their brain is gone.
Vinca
(50,255 posts)Skittles
(153,138 posts)what a fucking clown he is
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)He'd probably punch Ivanka in the face if she was infected and got too close to him.
Harker
(14,008 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,074 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Mask, no mask, lies, truth...Trumpists do NOT care about anything but owning the libs and their oft-repeated LIE, Trump works harder than any president in history.
They will not break with Trump for any reason. In their eyes, he can do no wrong.
Thats how deluded they are.
Lonestarblue
(9,963 posts)I pray for him to get a really bad case of Covid-19 so that he suffers enormously. Only then might he understand the suffering he has caused millions of Americans with his refusal to do anything to help and his deliberate attempts to prevent Democratic governors from obtained desperately needed equipment and supplies.