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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's just the flu
Looked this up just now: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
Seasonal flu deaths, 10/1/2019 - 4/4/2020.
These numbers really are eye-opening, for a number of reasons. First, even at the low end of the ranges, they are still very high. Second, there are ranges because we just don't know the real numbers. Really, is that the best we can do? A range of 39 million to 56 million? That's one heck of a range.
But what is worth noting this is the "regular flu." Whichever numerators and denominators you use - deaths/infections - the mortality rate is less that one tenth of a percent (I think I'm reading that right - in any case, it is a very low mortality rate). It's still awful that tens of thousands die from the "regular flu," but these numbers are still relatively low as a percent of those who are infected. If you use the largest number in the range for deaths and the lowest number in the range for infections, and then multiply that result by the number of COVID infections in the US, you'd end up with under 1,500 deaths. Instead, there are almost 80,000 deaths.
I know, it's pointless. Those on the right don't get it or don't care. I'm betting both. They just want to go to TJs and the barber.
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)dalton99a
(81,426 posts)UpInArms
(51,280 posts)Can you share the link?
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)(Some of the numbers on their maps are not up to date, e.g. we have gone way past 74K deaths in the U.S.)
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)safeinOhio
(32,656 posts)took care of it.
Maraya1969
(22,474 posts)I'm sure it is lower since we do not have enough testing but damn!
matt819
(10,749 posts)Yes, the mortality rate - which may or may not be the same as the case fatality rate - is in the 5% - 6% range. That's alarming, and has been from the outset.
But. . . think about how that percentage could change if only people were tested on a broad scale. We may find there aren't 1.3 million infected people in the US but rather 4.2 million, or some other higher number. In that case the mortality rate could drop dramatically. In which case it might well fall into the "regular flu" range. (No, it still wouldn't be like a normal regular flu, given the medical impact of COVID-19, which is seriously unlike the seasonal flu.) Which leads to the question, why the fuck isn't this regime testing on a broad scale. It could be in their interest to do so. After all, they could argue, millions and millions are infected, which definitely sucks, but a relatively small percentage are hospitalized and dying. Still serious, of course, but not end of the world serious. That could be their argument, but, no, the traitor doesn't think like that - or think like normal people - so testing is out.