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dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:37 PM May 2020

Post-it note left for woman diagnosed with COVID-19 reads no more mail delivery

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/post-it-note-left-for-woman-diagnosed-with-covid-19-reads-no-more-mail-delivery/

Post-it note left for woman diagnosed with COVID-19 reads no more mail delivery
by: Arezow Doost
Posted: May 11, 2020 / 12:16 PM CDT / Updated: May 11, 2020 / 05:24 PM CDT


Pamela Bilbo says a post-it notified her that she wouldn’t be getting mail due to COVID-19. (Pic Courtesy: Pamela Bilbo)

SMITHVILLE, Texas (KXAN) — Sitting in her kitchen, Pamela Bilbo described the fever and body aches. She said it’s a good day, because she can get out of bed.

“It comes in waves,” Bilbo explained “One day doing okay, a few hours later, you are down and out.” Bilbo, 65, said she tested positive for COVID-19 in April.

On Thursday, she said she found something in the mail that not only shocked her, but added to her stress.

“A little two inch by two inch post-it note from my carrier was in there,” explained Bilbo. “That said they could no longer deliver my mail, because someone had tested positive for COVID-19 at this address.”
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Post-it note left for woman diagnosed with COVID-19 reads no more mail delivery (Original Post) dalton99a May 2020 OP
How did they know, I wonder? Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #1
Not sure how they would know DetroitLegalBeagle May 2020 #14
The article says the local police told them to stop delivery. herding cats May 2020 #21
I don't know. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #30
Not legal. herding cats May 2020 #33
Okay, it sure seemed illegal to me. But... Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #34
No, it's not a "mistake" by any means. herding cats May 2020 #35
Aw, jeez. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #36
Completely. herding cats May 2020 #37
I want to apologize to you. herding cats May 2020 #41
No worries! Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #43
Wondering the same? Cha May 2020 #40
I will not believe this until I see proof positive Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #2
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if it's a ploy... Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #4
This is a report from a local news station, so it appears to be legit. pnwmom May 2020 #6
Maybe it's resolved? herding cats May 2020 #22
The police said they didn't tell the Post Office to stop the delivery. pnwmom May 2020 #27
Yes, but someone in the first responder system leaked the information to the postal carrier. herding cats May 2020 #32
Does that mean the czrrier can decide to stop ndelivering tour mail? If som it's the 1st I've napi21 May 2020 #3
Sounds like the situation was rectified, Lefta Dissenter May 2020 #5
Gah! How is it rectified, her private information was leaked via first responders to a USPS carrier? herding cats May 2020 #38
How does delivering mail expose the carrier to the recipient's virus??????????????????/ LAS14 May 2020 #7
Looks Like Perhaps Rural ProfessorGAC May 2020 #8
Even so, the potential threat PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #11
Agreed ProfessorGAC May 2020 #13
snark on: Oh Noes! If only there were some efficient way to spray disinfectant abqtommy May 2020 #9
There's something that doesn't smell right here. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #10
Yes, call me the same. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #16
So she re-created the scene to take a photo of it? Totally Tunsie May 2020 #12
Agreed. Nt lostnfound May 2020 #46
Story says local police told the post office to stop delivering mail to her. That's been corrected. highplainsdem May 2020 #15
The notice was left in error. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #18
What police department thinks they have the right to do that to anyone? crickets May 2020 #20
How would the post office even know if the local first responders didn't tell them? herding cats May 2020 #23
Good points. crickets May 2020 #24
It's a small town. I know them too well. herding cats May 2020 #25
Mail tampering is a felony. Small town politics can get real entertaining real quick, eh? ;-) nt crickets May 2020 #26
Yes, that they can. herding cats May 2020 #29
Oh, okay. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #31
why would you make such people LEAVE to go get their mail? Skittles May 2020 #17
Red areas are scared, too. herding cats May 2020 #28
Post It note is the tell. The Postal Service has procedures to halt Mail delivery to an address. Midnight Writer May 2020 #19
That's what I was thinking. "A postit"? Cha May 2020 #42
Wow.. can't mail carriers wear gloves and masks to Cha May 2020 #39
Apparently they have been delivering. The picture shows mail in the box. Something's screwy here. Midnight Writer May 2020 #44
Definitely. Now that I've read more.. I see it Cha May 2020 #45

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,923 posts)
14. Not sure how they would know
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:37 PM
May 2020

I know EMS, Police, and Fire are typically notified of information like this. Not sure why USPS would have that info though.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
21. The article says the local police told them to stop delivery.
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:57 PM
May 2020

Does HIPPA apply here? Even if state law gave the police the right to know, didn't they overreach here?!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
30. I don't know.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:36 PM
May 2020

Maybe not during an "emergency" like this pandemic?


Edit: It was an error as described further down this thread.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
33. Not legal.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:39 PM
May 2020

I live in Texas. The first responders have a right to patient information, but they can't share it outside of their system.

Someone broke the law here.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
34. Okay, it sure seemed illegal to me. But...
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:40 PM
May 2020

... it was apparently a mistake anyway, as described further down this thread.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
35. No, it's not a "mistake" by any means.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:45 PM
May 2020

That's people here trying to knee jerk take the heat off the USPS. They're not involved here at all. This is a local issue not an issue about the USPS in any way, shape or form.

A person was betrayed by the Texas first responder system. That's the story here. The USPS has no part in this beyond some dumbass route carrier who decided to carry the water of the guilty parties here who betrayed their oaths and violated HIPPA.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
41. I want to apologize to you.
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:12 AM
May 2020

I reread my words and I'm concerned you may think my ire was directed at you. It's not in anyway.

I'm just shocked so many people here (not you specifically) didn't see the obvious misuse of power by the first responders. Which is literally what the story is about. But, I live in Texas and know the laws here. So, I have an edge even before reading the article.

Peace to you.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
6. This is a report from a local news station, so it appears to be legit.
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:42 PM
May 2020

However, the situation has been resolved.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
22. Maybe it's resolved?
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:59 PM
May 2020

Did the police have the right to tell the postal workers to stop delivery? I'm not sure here.

It reads as if the local police shared private information they shouldn't have.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
27. The police said they didn't tell the Post Office to stop the delivery.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:29 PM
May 2020

And the Post Office is saying it shouldn't have happened.

So it's resolved in the sense that the mail will go on.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
32. Yes, but someone in the first responder system leaked the information to the postal carrier.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:37 PM
May 2020

This isn't over yet. Violations were made and people still have to pay for their mistakes. It's not the USPS, this isn't on them. But, someone violated this woman's civil rights and they should pay for it.

We all have rights. Be we urban or rural citizens, we all share the same civil rights and this person's were violated.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. Does that mean the czrrier can decide to stop ndelivering tour mail? If som it's the 1st I've
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:41 PM
May 2020

heard of it!

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
5. Sounds like the situation was rectified,
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:42 PM
May 2020

Though it should never have happened in the first place. I hope Ms. Bilbo fares well and has a full recovery.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
38. Gah! How is it rectified, her private information was leaked via first responders to a USPS carrier?
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:01 AM
May 2020

Not rectified. Not at all!

Her civil rights were violated and there needs to be justice for her.

I feel like banging my head against a wall. The USPS is not at fault at all here people. No one ever implied they were but people have a difficult time comprehending what they read. It was someone within the first responders who violated her rights and then some local route carrier followed their lead.

This whole story, while massive and shocking, is a story about Texas laws being sidestepped and circumvented to target people who are victims of COVID-19.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
8. Looks Like Perhaps Rural
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:45 PM
May 2020

AFAIK, rural carriers pick up outgoing mail when delivering.
Perhaps that's what this is about.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
13. Agreed
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:31 PM
May 2020

But, fear is a powerful inhibitor to rational thought.
If the carrier is scared they might act rashly.
Hopefully the postmaster straightened it out, including informing the carrier as to the extreme unlikelihood of being infected this way.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
9. snark on: Oh Noes! If only there were some efficient way to spray disinfectant
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:22 PM
May 2020

around/inside a mailbox... snark off

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
10. There's something that doesn't smell right here.
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:22 PM
May 2020

Delivering mail to a mailbox like that represents zero risk to the carrier putting the mail in.

Plus, I somehow don't think that the USPS would deliver that kind of news by post-it.

Call me skeptical.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
12. So she re-created the scene to take a photo of it?
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:28 PM
May 2020

She most likely wouldn't have read the Post-it note while it was still in her mailbox.

Skeptical.

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
15. Story says local police told the post office to stop delivering mail to her. That's been corrected.
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:42 PM
May 2020
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/post-it-note-left-for-woman-diagnosed-with-covid-19-reads-no-more-mail-delivery/


“My mailbox is out on the street away from my house. I called Smithville Post Office and they couldn’t tell me why except Bastrop Police told them to stop my mail,” Bilbo explained. “I don’t know why they thought they had the right to shut my mail service off.”

After not hearing anything from the post office Bilbo contacted KXAN investigators for help.

“The notice to the customer regarding their mail delivery was left in error,” explained Communications Specialist Becky Hernandez in an email to investigator Arezow Doost. “We apologize for any inconvenience that may have been experienced by our customer. As soon as local postal managers were made aware, they took steps to resolve the issue and have confirmed that mail delivery has resumed.”

-snip-

Bilbo got a stack of mail over the weekend with another post-it from her carrier reading “I stand with you.”

crickets

(25,969 posts)
20. What police department thinks they have the right to do that to anyone?
Mon May 11, 2020, 10:52 PM
May 2020

Since when would the post office let the police stop someone's mail?

Bastrop Interim Assistant Chief of Police Vicky Steffanic tells KXAN that they did not give such guidance and they don’t have jurisdiction in Smithville or over the Post Master.


Seems the cops are claiming they didn't do it/don't know what happened. So was this really local post office shenanigans after all? Over COVID, and just for this one person? The whole thing is strange.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
23. How would the post office even know if the local first responders didn't tell them?
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:03 PM
May 2020

Those who know a diagnosis are limited to first responders per the state law. Someone broke HIPPA and state laws to notify the postal service there.

Someone is lying here, and it's a person who had first responder inside information. Which wasn't the USPS workers.

crickets

(25,969 posts)
24. Good points.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:11 PM
May 2020

I don't like to blame the post office either, but using a post-it note instead of a form (and there's a form for everything) seems odd. I don't know - it sort of smells like a personal vendetta. I'm glad she got it straightened out though.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
25. It's a small town. I know them too well.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:19 PM
May 2020

This smells like locals playing fast and loose with information they had no right to be sharing.

This is, to my eyes, definitely not an official USPS decree, but it does need more looking into. Violations appear to have been made here by at least on department.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
28. Red areas are scared, too.
Mon May 11, 2020, 11:32 PM
May 2020

They won't admit it, but this is proof. This is a tiny community of less than 4K in a rural red area.

Let that all sink in and then reread the article. They're scared even while they play denialist in public.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
19. Post It note is the tell. The Postal Service has procedures to halt Mail delivery to an address.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:54 PM
May 2020

There are official notices that detail the reason for non delivery and gives the customer a contact number.

You can see from the picture of the note that it only has three words on it, no explanation.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
39. Wow.. can't mail carriers wear gloves and masks to
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:08 AM
May 2020

deliver to her address and then sanitize?

Poor thing

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