I just went to 538...

[albacore]

trump's approval rate is 43.5%
His disapproval rate is 51.5%

WTF! I mean WTFF!

Virtually unchanged.

You mean to tell me that 43.5% of Murikans are actually approving that creature?

If Biden wins... and there is no certainty there... we STILL have to deal with that 43.5%.

And the aftermath of the virus... or the aftermath of the second - or third - wave of virus.

And the various economic disasters that are hitting us.

For the first time in my 60 years of following our history and politics, I fear for the survival of the country.

[zipplewrath]

1. Careful

This is May, the deciding population will make their decision in October. They often stick with the status quo right up until the end and then decide to switch. After that, they tend to stay with the new guy for a long time.

[albacore]

3. But. 43% approve NOW. Been like that for years. Who the fuck ARE those people? nt

[zipplewrath]

12. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt

Alot of people have to wrap their heads around the fact that they voted for, and supported, an idiot that killed hundreds of thousands. That not only takes time, but it takes having people they know personally get sick, injured, and maybe even die. The Shrub suffered because ultimately soldiers came home without limbs and lives and mental health, and people who knew them began to understand what had been done. It took years, but by the end of his administration, he wasn't even invited to the GOP nominating convention. 4 years later his own brother had to admit to the mistake that had been made.

[qazplm135]

15. people who pay almost zero attention

Add up all the nightly viewers of the three cable networks. Little over 6 million. That's 5 percent of all voters in the general election.

Network nightly news is another 24 million ish. That's 30 million total out of 120+ million who vote in the GE.

That's a quarter of voters. That means 75 percent ish don't watch cable or network nightly news. Plenty of room in there for 10-15 percent of people who simply do not consume much news at all to fall into the 43 percent.

Just a lot of people not paying attention at all.

[certainot]

27. they are primary, secondary and tertiary recipients of lies from 1500 coordinated radio

stations that reach 50mil a week. in 40 statess with 80 senators there are no free easy alternatives for politics while driving working or doing chores - political talk radio is it and 95% of it is a well coordinated protected walmart type monopoly

that includes his hardcore base of dittoheads and then a shitload of people who are too stupid, busy, or apathetic to do their own research and in many cases depend on the hard core (family, neighbors, friends etc) to deliver the bullshit to them with certitude

not long ago the polls showed about 25% of americans get most of their news from radio.

yet the dumbfuck polling cos don't poll for talk radio in trump support even though trump and limbaugh are heavily connected

and in any national emergency those radio stations become even more important

ignoring talk radio continues to be the biggest political mistake in history

[zentrum]

28. The old Confederacy.

It's never gone away.

[lastlib]

31. Fundies, neo-nazis, ignorant rednecks....

who a) can't grasp complexities, thus demand simplistic "solutions" and b) wanna stick it to the pointy-haided libruls & byurrocrats & demmuhcrats.

That accounts for pretty much all of 'em.

[Stuart G]

7. Yes, This is May...Come October what will it be like?..I think in October it will be clear about

Trump and his upcoming loss. Or, perhaps he will resign. November is 25 weeks away...

No one knows what it will be like in November...Hopefully we will all see.

[gristy]

16. yes, good point. It is a major confession/concession for a MAGAT to admit their error and they

don't want to carry that burden with them from now until November. But in November when they step into that booth or stare at their mail-in ballot in private, many will vote for Biden. They'll still be MAGATs, but they'll be MAGATs who voted for Biden.

[flibbitygiblets]

32. In November, many of them may stay home. Either because of disgust, or because of 2nd/3rd wave

It's not going to be safe to vote in person, and given the way things are going, we'll have a lot more people dead by then. The economy is going to be FAR from anything resembling normal. People will be clamoring for "normal", for responsible adults with different ideas, since all the ideas we're hearing about now will have been proven disastrous by November.

[unblock]

2. i have a feeling there are an unusually large number of people who stopped listening to him

i think there are a lot of people who "approve" of the president as a matter of course, or at least "approve" of a republican president as a matter of course, and stopped listening to the news, or at least stopped caring what donnie says or does.

i think there are a lot of people who don't realize how horrible he is because they haven't been paying attention.

[guillaumeb]

4. And many of them, perhaps most, would describe themselves as informed voters. eom

[JHB]

34. Or, more to the point, jeer at /other people/ for being "low information voters"...

...when they're the ones who fit the term.

[Yavin4]

5. It means that 43.5% of this country are assholes like Trump.

They support him because they are him.

[walkingman]

18. I think they all live in Texas.

[uponit7771]

6. Were is Bloomberg? I pray they are all over the swing states blaming Trump for 81,000 deaths !!

[calguy]

8. Not really surprising

He's pretty much held that support since he stole the election, give or take three or four pounts. Never underestimate the stupidity of many of our fellow citizens.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

9. It's a cult.

[lostnfound]

10. The Facebook-circulated propaganda is more effective than we think?

[mucifer]

11. Feels like a huge cloud everywhere and something ugly is about to burst

[Grasswire2]

13. Is that the aggregate?

I always look at the top ten polls and see what movement there is.

[Takket]

14. someone pointed out to me recently.........

"approve" is not the same thing as "will be voting for". there are people that approve now that plan on voting for Biden.

[Polybius]

23. And vice versa too

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I know someone who hates the way Trump acts, but will be voting for him because of the Supreme Court.

[Doodley]

17. They aren't going anywhere. Unfortunately.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

19. It's indeed depressing.

I was like this when Trump was winning the early GOP primaries -->

Then I saw the early polling of him against Clinton for President, and was like this --> and and

[Greywing]

20. Just an observation ... Everyone I know does not answer phone

with incoming calls they don't recognize. I really do not put much faith in polls conducted by phone any more.

[SoCalDem]

21. Jim Jones' people willingly drank the kool-aid

That's the way cults work.. the leader is an ass, but people refuse to believe it..they think he's being unfairly persecuted

[oasis]

33. Zombie cultists.nt

[grantcart]

22. Look at the state polls

For example look at Colorado

[Aussie105]

24. If people are too dumb so that they vote for him in the first place

there is nothing anything or anyone can do, not even Trump's dismal performance, that can change their minds.

Heads full of concrete. 'Own the libs' foremost in their minds. Even onto their own deaths from starvation or the virus. That is all.

[RainCaster]

25. My swag: that's Faux News market

I know some drooling idiots (professional class fucking morons) who waste their time watching that shit. It will take a lot more pain in their personal lives before they question the taste of that Koolaid they have been drinking.

[progressoid]

26. And Hillary's is even lower.

America is fucked up.

[Joinfortmill]

29. I have my doubts about these polls.

[kevink077]

30. Simple reason why

Trump hates the same people those groups hate. Remember the LBJ quote?

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you“