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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,955 posts)
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:20 PM May 2020

Are masks the next front in the coronavirus culture war?

Debates over masks and other face coverings have been at the center of discussion since the early days of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. For much of that time, the conversation focused largely on practical matters, like how effective masks are at stemming the spread of the virus and questions about shortages for health care workers.

The debate has shifted in recent weeks. There are no longer questions about whether masks prevent infection. Experts agree that even homemade ones help. The current conversation is more contentious. Those who refuse to wear masks have been accused of ignorance or selfishness while the mandates that they be worn outside or in shops have been painted as violations of civil liberties.

The discontent over masks has been strong enough to force some politicians to change their policies. Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, who has been praised for his early and aggressive response to the virus, has lifted the state’s order requiring masks be worn inside stores, saying, “People were not going to accept the government telling them what to do.” The city of Stillwater, Okla., rescinded its mask policy after employees at some stores faced threats of violence.

The disagreements over masks have even turned violent. In Michigan a security guard was killed after reportedly demanding a patron wear a mask.

https://news.yahoo.com/are-masks-the-next-front-in-the-coronavirus-culture-war-182414248.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9sb2dpbi55YWhvby5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMHta4fJW3jzkmWiMfv4OumW7VMQiJkQuHK10EYDlGdtljIGfRRJirM5KJ2VFD1X_Xw9enpBG5ssQMoPVykOvIuWK-DDAhzLRI29tglmaiHXXwZoWMHQ3L54Xpb-i3_hFcK-ovbmZtMQRzcsHMyrPEhFk2FpPIRijkSrxoGeWi-h

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Are masks the next front in the coronavirus culture war? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 OP
Absolutely. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #1
...and haircuts. kairos12 May 2020 #2
add vaccines when they start to dribble in Celerity May 2020 #3
I've been making masks since the beginning, mostly from my own supplies. catrose May 2020 #4
I've been making masks too. iemitsu May 2020 #9
And you too! catrose May 2020 #11
I tried the home-made ties too. iemitsu May 2020 #12
I've been making masks, too. notinkansas May 2020 #14
Really - Yahoo is stretching here JustAnotherGen May 2020 #5
"People were not going to accept the government telling them what to do." DBoon May 2020 #6
What rock has DeWine been living under? dlk May 2020 #7
The government tells us what we can and can't do every day of our lives Chainfire May 2020 #8
The government tells us what to do iemitsu May 2020 #10
No culture war with me Raine May 2020 #13
It will be interesting to see how this goes now that Trump is making the white house staff wear them judeling May 2020 #15

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
1. Absolutely.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:23 PM
May 2020

I've witnessed it around here.

I'm not asking the non-wearers their political affiliation, but they match enough of the other right-wing stereotypes that I'm confident about it.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
4. I've been making masks since the beginning, mostly from my own supplies.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:34 PM
May 2020

In recent weeks I've run out of everything but fabric (and I've donated boxes of fabric to other mask makers) and had to replace elastic (when I can find it), metal nose pieces, needles, cutting blades. I started out making them for medical facilities, to cover their N95s, and I've made them for family, friends, essential workers, and now the Navajo Nation. I make the personal masks to the same standards the medical facilities required, and I include a nonwoven filter with each one.

It really hurts to see my symbol of community care and unity turned into a point of contention. I keep thinking the United States is better than what it keeps proving.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
9. I've been making masks too.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:51 PM
May 2020

When I ran out of elastic I switched to using shoe strings. They work just fine.
I was verbally accosted for wearing one, while mowing my front lawn. He drove by in a convertible and yelled that I was a stupid dupe.
Thanks for your efforts to supply others with these simple, life-saving items.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
11. And you too!
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:03 AM
May 2020

I went from elastic to self-made ties, which I purely hate, and am now experimenting with velcro on grosgrain ribbon and mesh.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
12. I tried the home-made ties too.
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:24 AM
May 2020

And it was too much. Then I stole all the shoe laces in the house. Got more from Safeway with my online food orders. The shoe strings loop around the back of the neck and through the bottom two sides of the mask and come out the tops. Then they can be tightened and tied on top.
I have lots of old ribbons too. Haven't had to use them yet.

DBoon

(22,363 posts)
6. "People were not going to accept the government telling them what to do."
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:37 PM
May 2020

So the government can't stop me from driving on the sidewalk?

dlk

(11,561 posts)
7. What rock has DeWine been living under?
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:38 PM
May 2020

The government regulates behavior all of the time. What he’s doing is promoting anarchy in the name of political expediency. Apparently, he has no backbone.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
8. The government tells us what we can and can't do every day of our lives
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:42 PM
May 2020

It is the cost of living in a civilization. If we find that the rules are out of line, we change the rules or change the politicians who make the rules. If a store owner, or even a home owners, say's "You can't come in my store/home without shoes or shirt" it is his privilege. The option for the shopper/visitor is to go somewhere else. It is the duty of the police to protect the private property rights of the owner.

If a person wants to live without rules, if they don't feel that they owe anything to those around them, they should find a deserted island and live "free." As soon as there is a second person on their island, both parties have to give up something, and they will be screaming about their rights.

Is it now the theory of the right wingers that we are to only enforce the laws that a minority of the population like? Do we give in because we fear the minority might get violent? Screw the hard right minority, the Constitutional Scholars with tenth grade educations. Lock 'em up, or if they demand it, shoot them down. The option is to accept the rule of the American Brown Shirts. This old man ain't ready to give in to the Fascist bastards.









Raine

(30,540 posts)
13. No culture war with me
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:26 AM
May 2020

the only reason I'm wearing a hot miserable mask is because in my area no place of business will let people in without a face covering. I'm really forward to the day when they aren't needed, I hope it's soon..

judeling

(1,086 posts)
15. It will be interesting to see how this goes now that Trump is making the white house staff wear them
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:53 AM
May 2020

We will see how long it lasts but if it wasn't so serious it would be absolutely hilarious.

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