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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Antibody testing shows Covid -19 has been in Ohio since at least January , Dr Acton says"
" CLEVELAND, Ohio (WOIO) - Dr. Amy Acton says antibody research is providing new details on the prevalence of the coronavirus across Ohio.
The director for the Ohio Department of Health said Monday that at least five of the 24,477 total reported COVID-19 cases in the state date back to January.
Antibody testing, says Dr. Acton, helped determine that the onset of symptoms for those five cases from five different counties were first reported in January.
According to Dr. Acton, Ohio Department of Health researchers are working to confirm if the infections are associated with travel."
Backseat Driver
(4,619 posts)by antibody testing - I've heard many, many people say their symptoms of some illness matching CoVID-19's in January and even earlier, but they have not yet had an antibody test that might prove it.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Have heard the same thing about the symptoms / illness in Jan and earlier .
From article just for info " Ohio has reported 4,465 flu-related hospitalizations in the 2019-2020 season, according to the state. Thats more than double the 2,160 during the same period a year earlier, state records show."
"An 11-year-old girl died from the flu this week in northeastern Ohios Lake County. It was the second pediatric death of the flu season. The flu also killed a 16-year-old girl from Cuyahoga County in early January"
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200207/flu-hospitalizations-spike-in-ohio-second-child-dies
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I am VERY skeptical!
Terry_M
(754 posts)and now we tested them and they have antibodies.
Not proof but saying you caught COVID at the end of January becomes the most likely explanation for why you both have antibodies and had a bad flu back then.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)I was sick as a dog for 2 weeks and I had the flu shot in December (I know that's not proof of anything, you can get the flu shot and still get the flu).
I'm wondering if there's a way I can get tested for antibodies.
intrepidity
(7,804 posts)Quest Diagnostics is offering one:
https://questdirect.questdiagnostics.com/products/covid-19-immune-response/b580e541-78a5-48a6-b17b-7bad949dcb57
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Last edited Mon May 11, 2020, 11:13 PM - Edit history (1)
https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/checklists/english-checklists/antibody-test-kits-covid-19-checklistOr if another state state or local health dept for information
edit to add sorry you went though that
geomon666
(7,512 posts)but I'm gonna call my insurance provider in the morning and see what they say. If I have antibodies that can help people, then that's what I'm gonna do.
obamanut2012
(27,716 posts)My insurance is paying for all of it except $10. I'm actually getting it done tomorrow. I am about 90% sure I had it in mid January.
intrepidity
(7,804 posts)I was really sick in January also, and am considering getting an antisera test. If it's positive, I still can't be certain I had it in January, vs had an asymptomatic case later. But I still want to know.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)And had an asymptotic case of COVID later. No one really knows.
luvs2sing
(2,227 posts)Hubster and I were both weirdly sick the first weekend in February. It seemed to pass quickly, but I had minor breathing issues till the middle of March. Several people my husband work with were very sick for several weeks during that same time. I think Ill call ODH tomorrow.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Rstrstx
(1,546 posts)Kathy M
(1,242 posts)roamer65
(36,962 posts)BComplex
(8,980 posts)I'm here in the south. I'd like to know also if I test positive for antibodies.
Even if you do test positive for antibodies, however, from what I understand that doesn't mean you can't get it again. So please be safe everyone!
Nay
(12,051 posts)Jan. 31, was weirdly sick Feb. 2-4. I had a whanging headache, an extremely sore throat, fatigue. I felt very strange. I had a cough for a week. No congestion.
I remember telling Mr Nay "this is the weirdest damn cold I've ever had." I got over it quickly. Then, when the whole covid 19 thing started, I never connected my cold to it because my symptoms weren't on the covid list. Until my symptoms were added about a month later! Then I said to myself, "Holy f**k??" Did I have covid and lived through it???
I also want to be tested, but I don't want to pay for a test that is basically worthless, as so many of them are now. 87% reliable?? Who cares? I want one 98 -99%.
Thomas Hurt
(13,925 posts)but I flew back to my hometown week of Xmas. Got there, came down with the flu, ended up in the ER on xmas morning.
Thing was that my O2 levels were down and the doc had me on oxygen for a couple of nights at home. Was supposed to be on it all day and night, but I wasn't having that.
I have never had that happen with the flu before. Worst xmas of my life.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,694 posts)believe white folks had it! Oh wait, probably just black folks in Cleveland, that fits the narrative a lot better.
Igel
(35,995 posts)They shut down travel in early-mid January. Before anybody said that human-to-human transmission was anything more than just "possible."
They got hit hard by SARS. Because China--sorry, "the country that we can't name"--wasn't forthcoming.
Burned once, they weren't about to be burned a second time.
As for the test results, it's possible. But there are different ways of reaching the same state--sick in January, test positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in May.
Thing is, people don't get it. If they were sick in January--they were infected before S. Korea had its test, and before the German test was put into production. And people expect there to be millions of kit for a test not yet developed. They like to think this, but it contradicts other things they like to think. How Alice in Wonderland.
And if you grow corn in ever colder climates, you'll get corn that's frost hardy and matures at low temperatures.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)for any concrete information that can be relied on regarding covid the illness , test ect . The reason I posted article found it interesting that Doctor that talked about the 5 results from antibodies is same doctor that has daily news update with Gov. .
uponit7771
(91,355 posts)There are no FDA-approved antibody tests.
Just like there are no FDA-approved COVID tests.
If one's crap, then the other's crap.
There are, however, COVID tests with EUAs that we generally rely on for punditry. And there are antibody tests with EUAs.
However, on top of that a lot of research labs outside of government have validated a number of antibody tests. These are peers, and sometimes superior, to FDA and CDC folk.
tavernier
(13,200 posts)were all sick as dogs early in the year, all the major symptoms of Covid. Of course we didnt know what it was at the time. A few weeks later they went to New Orleans for spring break, but by that time they were all over it so Im sure they werent contagious. My daughter who teaches nursing and never panics was extremely worried at the time and came close to having her admitted.
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)One of my kids brought something horrible home from the hospital, late January.
It started off with a sore throat, then a cough with wheezing, shaking chills, etc. After about 2 weeks of this, it seemed to ease up for a few days (thinking we were on the road to recovery) until we were hit again, like a mack truck.
I could barely breathe and felt like I was getting pneumonia. We all laid in bed for a month and our coughs lingered for a month thereafter.
It was assumed, but not confirmed to be Influenza A or B but we weren't tested.
This was the sickest I've been in about 30 years and my son was off of work for over a month.
The timing and severity of how sick we were just makes me wonder.
JesterCS
(1,828 posts)Had severe bronchitis,. Went to urgent care and they were so worried I had pneumonia that they took x-rays. I recovered in about a week
ProfessorGAC
(69,459 posts)Illinois.
Week prior to Christmas. Diagnosed as severe bronchitis but not pneumonia.
I had ruled out COVID because I had no fever. Later I found out something like 1 in 8 infections do not exhibit fever even though there are other symptoms.
But, my wife didn't get sick, so I still don't know.
JesterCS
(1,828 posts)And I live with them. So I'm not sure also. But it was the worst bronchitis I have ever had. I felt like I was breathing through a coffee stir
leftyladyfrommo
(19,348 posts)The nurse told me that the hospital was full. I asked if it was flu and she said no that it was some respiratory thing.