Mon May 11, 2020, 09:26 PM

DURHAM D (29,834 posts)

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Self-delete (Original post)	DURHAM D	May 2020	OP
Kick	dalton99a	May 2020	#1
"Lower costs" is always the claim, never the reality of privatization...nt	Wounded Bear	May 2020	#2
Right. How do you lower costs if there has to be profit?	rickford66	May 2020	#11
I wonder which money bags put that idea into his head...	GemDigger	May 2020	#3
The linked article is pretty detailed.	DURHAM D	May 2020	#5
Whatever, we can be sure with tRump involved it's F'ed up, criminal ... and someone	RKP5637	May 2020	#7
Right, we want ATCs to be folks willing	Ilsa	May 2020	#4
Didn't they try this before?	sakabatou	May 2020	#6
They've been trying for years.	The Velveteen Ocelot	May 2020	#8
Yes, Raygun ruined it in the 80's.	jls4561	May 2020	#9
Linked article in OP is from June 5, 2017. Is there also an update I may be missing? n/t	MFGsunny	May 2020	#10
Oops - Sorry, missed that date.	DURHAM D	May 2020	#13
I very much appreciate your prompt attention to this - you're one of the best, DD! n/t	MFGsunny	May 2020	#15
It's interesting that the big airlines are for it except for Delta.	The Velveteen Ocelot	May 2020	#12
The $10B contract has already been awarded to the newly formed 'Kushner Aeronautic Solutions' (nt)	mr_lebowski	May 2020	#14

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:27 PM

dalton99a (59,255 posts)

1. Kick

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:27 PM

Wounded Bear (43,114 posts)

2. "Lower costs" is always the claim, never the reality of privatization...nt

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:44 PM

rickford66 (4,380 posts)

11. Right. How do you lower costs if there has to be profit?

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:28 PM

GemDigger (3,898 posts)

3. I wonder which money bags put that idea into his head...

It came from someone who intends to make bank on it so … I just wonder who sold it to the idiot.

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:29 PM

DURHAM D (29,834 posts)

5. The linked article is pretty detailed.

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:31 PM

RKP5637 (60,588 posts)

7. Whatever, we can be sure with tRump involved it's F'ed up, criminal ... and someone

is filling their pockets with cash.

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:29 PM

Ilsa (57,550 posts)

4. Right, we want ATCs to be folks willing

to work CHEAP!

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:30 PM

sakabatou (38,008 posts)

6. Didn't they try this before?

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:39 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,470 posts)

8. They've been trying for years.

Some smaller ATC facilities already have been privatized, but they are still required to follow FAA rules and procedures.

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:40 PM

jls4561 (900 posts)

9. Yes, Raygun ruined it in the 80's.

As he did most things,

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:41 PM

MFGsunny (2,312 posts)

10. Linked article in OP is from June 5, 2017. Is there also an update I may be missing? n/t

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:45 PM

DURHAM D (29,834 posts)

13. Oops - Sorry, missed that date.

Just saw the article for the first time and did not realize it was old.

Will delete.

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:59 PM

MFGsunny (2,312 posts)

15. I very much appreciate your prompt attention to this - you're one of the best, DD! n/t

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:44 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,470 posts)

12. It's interesting that the big airlines are for it except for Delta.

"Opponents, including Delta Air Lines, say the U.S. system is so large that privatization would not save money, and would drive up ticket costs and could create a national security risk. Opponents also say technology upgrades would be sidetracked while the private entity was set up, potentially adding years to awarding contracts."

I agree, and I would also offer the example of the DHL- Bashkirian Airlines midair collision in 2002, which was caused in part by the private ATC service's poor management, insufficient staffing and equipment failure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_%C3%9Cberlingen_mid-air_collision

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Mon May 11, 2020, 09:45 PM

mr_lebowski (19,545 posts)

14. The $10B contract has already been awarded to the newly formed 'Kushner Aeronautic Solutions' (nt)

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