Trumpgate: This is what happens when incompetent demagogues run the government. People die. Biggest

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Marcus H. Johnson
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80,000 total deaths. At this rate we’ll be at 100,000 before the end of May. 150,000 or more by end of the summer is all totally possible. This is what happens when incompetent demagogues run the government. People die. Biggest internal US crisis in 100 years.

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1. Kick for trumpgate

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2. And again, nothing is being done to stop it.

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[DENVERPOPS]

27. Agreed

And not only are they doing nothing to stop it, they are actively doing everything possible to make it worse.
We ain't seen nothing yet, people......

[Cha]

29. Exactly, DENVERPOPS.. Thank You!

Like Demovictory posted down thread.. "Ignore trump, don't drink bleach, wear masks, Safe Distancing,, I'll add wear gloves when needed, Wash hands, and hang in there so we can GOTV him OUT.

BeSafe!

[dalton99a]

3. Simple fact: Trump refused to work and prevent the crisis.

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5. Yes, and trump has Worn Out Shovels Trying to Dig himself

out of his Stupid Arrogant Refusal to take the CV Seriously Until IT Was TOO LATE.

Thank you for the Proof, Dalton!

[smirkymonkey]

14. He NEVER took it seriously.

He's still not taking it seriously. There is still no plan formulated if there is a future resurgence of the virus. As far as he's concerned, it's all a big nuisance and he's just washed his hands of it. Doesn't want to deal.

He has done absolutely jack-shit to prevent the spread of this disease, and has only used the crisis as an opportunity to congratulate himself for the successes of others and to make a profit off of PPE and ventilators that should have been going to the hardest hit states and their hospitals.

We cannot go through this with him again. We need a real president, who will appoint intelligent, competent people that will be able to take charge and mobilize resources the next time something like this comes along. This has just been a joke. Thank god we have had some good people at the state and local levels or things would have been even worse.

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16. You're right, Smirky.. all he's doing now is

spewing More Lies about it. It's only about how it affects his re-election prospects.. which should be nil.

Thank you!

[Initech]

4. This is a catastrophe of epic proportions.

Like if Skynet were deployed or Thanos snapped. This thing isn't going away any time soon. Especially not with the utter incompetence of this administration.

[Cha]

25. Yes, this is our Reality.. and the incompetent malicious

trump only Lies to us.

Mahalo, Initech~BeSafe!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. So how do we account for Belgium

having the highest deaths per million -- 751 -- of any country? Incompetent demagogues there?

[la-trucker]

7. Are you saying we don't have incompetent demagogues here?

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8. Good question.. Thank You.

Really.. we know what's going on here & Why.. we've had months of it..and that's who the Tweet was talking about. The US Government.

[Cha]

9. P.S. The Proof..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13426197

[DenverJared]

10. Are you saying Belgium is worse so Trump is not that bad?

[herding cats]

12. They've been at it longer.

Give us more time and I'm sure we'll be better at killing more citizens per capita.

[SunSeeker]

20. We're just not counting deaths like Belgium.

Belgium counts suspected Covid-19 deaths, while the rest of countries don't:

"Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. According to Belgium's latest official figures, out of 7,703 deaths, 53% have been in care homes."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52491210

Our numbers would skyrocket if we counted suspected cases in nursing homes like Belgium does. Only 33 US states even report nursing home-related Covid-19 deaths. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus Based on Belgium's numbers allocation, that means the deaths in those states should be considered twice what they are claimed to be. Right now only about 35% of US Covid-19 deaths are reported to be nursing home residents. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/09/us/coronavirus-cases-nursing-homes-us.html Given Belgium's numbers, I suspect the US nursing home Covid-19 death total number needs to be doubled, at least.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

33. No. I'm saying that people here seem to think that

this is the only country with a lot of deaths.

Yes, we have the dubious distinction of having the most deaths, but we also have a lot more people than most other countries, so the deaths per million is a far more revealing number. Alas, we're not number one by that metric.

So, I still wonder what in the world is going on in Belgium.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

37. See post #20 above yours.

[SunSeeker]

18. Belgium acknowledges it made mistakes in not preparing nursing homes.

"Officials also acknowledge mistakes were made at the beginning: poor preparation left care home staff lacking personal protective equipment (PPE). That allowed the virus to spread quickly, with devastating effect."

This was compounded by the fact that many more people in Belgium put loved ones in care homes than elsewhere in Europe.

Another big reason their numbers are so high is they count suspected Covid-19 deaths, and other countries don't:

"Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. According to Belgium's latest official figures, out of 7,703 deaths, 53% have been in care homes."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52491210

Our numbers would skyrocket if we counted suspected cases like Belgium does. Only 33 US states report nursing home-related deaths. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus Based on Belgium's numbers allocation, that means the deaths in those states should be considered twice what they are claimed to be.

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23. Thank you for that Research on Belgium's CV Crisis, SunSeeker!

Admitting their mistakes is a huge step to making it better.

[SunSeeker]

11. K & R & Retweeted!

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19. Mahalo, SunSeeker!

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13. David Plouffe: I still maintain when all is said and done he'll wish he never ran.

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I sure as Hell Hope So!

[SunSeeker]

21. I sure wish he never ran.

[calimary]

30. No freakin' shit...

I wish like hell he NEVER ran.

The wreckage he'll leave behind - sometimes I wonder if it's even possible to clean it all up.

[gopiscrap]

15. I am a little suspicious of Russia's fatality numbers

I have the feeling that they are quite a bit higher

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17. Ikr.. I had to do a doubletake at that.. thinking

wow.. they really have a handle on that. Did they not call it a "hoax" and ignore it for 70 days?

[Demovictory9]

22. ignore trump. don't drink bleach. wear your masks. social distance.

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24. I wear gloves, too, when I go into a store bc

you never know.

Thank you, Demovictory, BeSafe!

[yuiyoshida]

26. k&r ...tweeted

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34. Mahalo, yuiyoshida!

BeSafe!

[yuiyoshida]

35. dou itashimashite :)

どういたしまして。

共有してくれてありがとう。

[Cha]

38. Mahalo nui loa!

I like your mask!

[yuiyoshida]

39. I made it to remind people to wear one

especially around me... if I catch this, I am dead.

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40. Excellent.. you got material that has

the virus on it?

I just remembered you were sick and in hospital.. so that's why it would be more deadly for you?

So sorry, StaySafe!

[yuiyoshida]

47. No.

Its because I was in the hospital last November and nearly died... that I am being so careful now...the mask on my photo is photo shopped, a representation of what we all should be wearing now... for a while.

[Rhiannon12866]

28. Twitter replies:

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[calimary]

31. All those souls...

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41. Mahalo for this, Rhiannon.. puts it more into Perspective,

doesn't it?

[Rhiannon12866]

42. It sure does!

How anyone can ignore or dismiss this unprecedented and terrifying national crisis just boggles the mind! I had to go out today and there were numerous lighted signs on the roads here that said STAY HOME and COVER FACE IN PUBLIC! Is this really an acceptable way to live? And it's far from over - according to those who actually know what they're talking about...

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43. Good ol New York.. I'm so grateful

for Gov Cuomo. It could be so much worse without a Dem Gov like him in charge.

Those who ignore the safety precautions protocol are brainwashed by those in the Cult45.. and there's enough of them to dangerously screw it up for everyone else.

We shall persevere in spite of all that.

[Rhiannon12866]

44. Yup. I've thought that so often in recent weeks, we're really lucky to live in New York

And have a smart and engaged governor who speaks up and advocates for us - Andrew Cuomo. His Dad would be proud! On MSNBC tonight they said he has an 81% approval rate on handling this crisis. How it's not higher is a mystery to me!

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45. 81% Approval for Gov Cuomo! That's really good to know..

Mahalo!

As you know there's pockets of red in New York who wouldn't give the Dem Gov any credit no matter how good a job he's doing.

[Rhiannon12866]

46. Yup, and they're all here Upstate.

After all, my idiot district keeps reelecting Elise Stefanik - even though there have been constant protests in my area ever since her first term.

[oasis]

32. Trump owns this. He'll deny it until he's blue in the face, but he's

the architect of the Convid-19 response disaster.

[mnhtnbb]

36. When the US dropped the bomb on Nagasaki

80,000 people died immediately. In an instant.

That number astonished the world.

We have had the equivalent number of deaths from one source in two months.