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Mon May 11, 2020, 10:21 PM

Trumpgate: This is what happens when incompetent demagogues run the government. People die. Biggest






Marcus H. Johnson

80,000 total deaths. At this rate we’ll be at 100,000 before the end of May. 150,000 or more by end of the summer is all totally possible. This is what happens when incompetent demagogues run the government. People die. Biggest internal US crisis in 100 years.



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Reply Trumpgate: This is what happens when incompetent demagogues run the government. People die. Biggest (Original post)
Cha May 2020 OP
Cha May 2020 #1
Cha May 2020 #2
DENVERPOPS May 2020 #27
Cha May 2020 #29
dalton99a May 2020 #3
Cha May 2020 #5
smirkymonkey May 2020 #14
Cha May 2020 #16
Initech May 2020 #4
Cha May 2020 #25
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #6
la-trucker May 2020 #7
Cha May 2020 #8
Cha May 2020 #9
DenverJared May 2020 #10
herding cats May 2020 #12
SunSeeker May 2020 #20
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #33
Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #37
SunSeeker May 2020 #18
Cha May 2020 #23
SunSeeker May 2020 #11
Cha May 2020 #19
Cha May 2020 #13
SunSeeker May 2020 #21
calimary May 2020 #30
gopiscrap May 2020 #15
Cha May 2020 #17
Demovictory9 May 2020 #22
Cha May 2020 #24
yuiyoshida May 2020 #26
Cha May 2020 #34
yuiyoshida May 2020 #35
Cha May 2020 #38
yuiyoshida May 2020 #39
Cha May 2020 #40
yuiyoshida May 2020 #47
Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #28
calimary May 2020 #31
Cha May 2020 #41
Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #42
Cha May 2020 #43
Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #44
Cha May 2020 #45
Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #46
oasis May 2020 #32
mnhtnbb May 2020 #36

Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:25 PM

1. Kick for trumpgate

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:38 PM

2. And again, nothing is being done to stop it.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:45 AM

27. Agreed

And not only are they doing nothing to stop it, they are actively doing everything possible to make it worse.
We ain't seen nothing yet, people......

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #27)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:55 AM

29. Exactly, DENVERPOPS.. Thank You!

Like Demovictory posted down thread.. "Ignore trump, don't drink bleach, wear masks, Safe Distancing,, I'll add wear gloves when needed, Wash hands, and hang in there so we can GOTV him OUT.

BeSafe!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

3. Simple fact: Trump refused to work and prevent the crisis.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #3)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:48 PM

5. Yes, and trump has Worn Out Shovels Trying to Dig himself

out of his Stupid Arrogant Refusal to take the CV Seriously Until IT Was TOO LATE.

Thank you for the Proof, Dalton!

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:24 PM

14. He NEVER took it seriously.

He's still not taking it seriously. There is still no plan formulated if there is a future resurgence of the virus. As far as he's concerned, it's all a big nuisance and he's just washed his hands of it. Doesn't want to deal.

He has done absolutely jack-shit to prevent the spread of this disease, and has only used the crisis as an opportunity to congratulate himself for the successes of others and to make a profit off of PPE and ventilators that should have been going to the hardest hit states and their hospitals.

We cannot go through this with him again. We need a real president, who will appoint intelligent, competent people that will be able to take charge and mobilize resources the next time something like this comes along. This has just been a joke. Thank god we have had some good people at the state and local levels or things would have been even worse.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #14)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:32 PM

16. You're right, Smirky.. all he's doing now is

spewing More Lies about it. It's only about how it affects his re-election prospects.. which should be nil.

Thank you!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:46 PM

4. This is a catastrophe of epic proportions.

Like if Skynet were deployed or Thanos snapped. This thing isn't going away any time soon. Especially not with the utter incompetence of this administration.

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Response to Initech (Reply #4)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:32 AM

25. Yes, this is our Reality.. and the incompetent malicious

trump only Lies to us.

Mahalo, Initech~BeSafe!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:50 PM

6. So how do we account for Belgium

having the highest deaths per million -- 751 -- of any country? Incompetent demagogues there?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #6)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:52 PM

7. Are you saying we don't have incompetent demagogues here?

 

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Response to la-trucker (Reply #7)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

8. Good question.. Thank You.

Really.. we know what's going on here & Why.. we've had months of it..and that's who the Tweet was talking about. The US Government.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #6)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

10. Are you saying Belgium is worse so Trump is not that bad?

 

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Response to DenverJared (Reply #10)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:16 PM

12. They've been at it longer.

Give us more time and I'm sure we'll be better at killing more citizens per capita.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #12)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:50 PM

20. We're just not counting deaths like Belgium.

Belgium counts suspected Covid-19 deaths, while the rest of countries don't:

"Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. According to Belgium's latest official figures, out of 7,703 deaths, 53% have been in care homes."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52491210

Our numbers would skyrocket if we counted suspected cases in nursing homes like Belgium does. Only 33 US states even report nursing home-related Covid-19 deaths. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus Based on Belgium's numbers allocation, that means the deaths in those states should be considered twice what they are claimed to be. Right now only about 35% of US Covid-19 deaths are reported to be nursing home residents. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/09/us/coronavirus-cases-nursing-homes-us.html Given Belgium's numbers, I suspect the US nursing home Covid-19 death total number needs to be doubled, at least.

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Response to DenverJared (Reply #10)

Tue May 12, 2020, 11:51 AM

33. No. I'm saying that people here seem to think that

this is the only country with a lot of deaths.

Yes, we have the dubious distinction of having the most deaths, but we also have a lot more people than most other countries, so the deaths per million is a far more revealing number. Alas, we're not number one by that metric.

So, I still wonder what in the world is going on in Belgium.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #33)

Tue May 12, 2020, 03:43 PM

37. See post #20 above yours.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #6)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:38 PM

18. Belgium acknowledges it made mistakes in not preparing nursing homes.

"Officials also acknowledge mistakes were made at the beginning: poor preparation left care home staff lacking personal protective equipment (PPE). That allowed the virus to spread quickly, with devastating effect."

This was compounded by the fact that many more people in Belgium put loved ones in care homes than elsewhere in Europe.

Another big reason their numbers are so high is they count suspected Covid-19 deaths, and other countries don't:

"Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. According to Belgium's latest official figures, out of 7,703 deaths, 53% have been in care homes."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52491210

Our numbers would skyrocket if we counted suspected cases like Belgium does. Only 33 US states report nursing home-related deaths. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus Based on Belgium's numbers allocation, that means the deaths in those states should be considered twice what they are claimed to be.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #18)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

23. Thank you for that Research on Belgium's CV Crisis, SunSeeker!

Admitting their mistakes is a huge step to making it better.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:12 PM

11. K & R & Retweeted!

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #11)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:45 PM

19. Mahalo, SunSeeker!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:20 PM

13. David Plouffe: I still maintain when all is said and done he'll wish he never ran.



I sure as Hell Hope So!

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Response to Cha (Reply #13)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:54 PM

21. I sure wish he never ran.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #21)

Tue May 12, 2020, 01:21 AM

30. No freakin' shit...

I wish like hell he NEVER ran.

The wreckage he'll leave behind - sometimes I wonder if it's even possible to clean it all up.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:27 PM

15. I am a little suspicious of Russia's fatality numbers

I have the feeling that they are quite a bit higher

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #15)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

17. Ikr.. I had to do a doubletake at that.. thinking

wow.. they really have a handle on that. Did they not call it a "hoax" and ignore it for 70 days?

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

22. ignore trump. don't drink bleach. wear your masks. social distance.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #22)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:30 AM

24. I wear gloves, too, when I go into a store bc

you never know.

Thank you, Demovictory, BeSafe!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:38 AM

26. k&r ...tweeted

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #26)

Tue May 12, 2020, 02:22 PM

34. Mahalo, yuiyoshida!

BeSafe!

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Response to Cha (Reply #34)

Tue May 12, 2020, 02:28 PM

35. dou itashimashite :)

どういたしまして。

共有してくれてありがとう。

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #35)

Wed May 13, 2020, 12:15 AM

38. Mahalo nui loa!

I like your mask!

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Response to Cha (Reply #38)

Wed May 13, 2020, 12:21 AM

39. I made it to remind people to wear one

especially around me... if I catch this, I am dead.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #39)

Wed May 13, 2020, 12:25 AM

40. Excellent.. you got material that has

the virus on it?

I just remembered you were sick and in hospital.. so that's why it would be more deadly for you?

So sorry, StaySafe!

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Response to Cha (Reply #40)

Wed May 13, 2020, 01:19 AM

47. No.

Its because I was in the hospital last November and nearly died... that I am being so careful now...the mask on my photo is photo shopped, a representation of what we all should be wearing now... for a while.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:54 AM

28. Twitter replies:

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #28)

Tue May 12, 2020, 01:23 AM

31. All those souls...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #28)

Wed May 13, 2020, 12:31 AM

41. Mahalo for this, Rhiannon.. puts it more into Perspective,

doesn't it?

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Response to Cha (Reply #41)

Wed May 13, 2020, 12:43 AM

42. It sure does!

How anyone can ignore or dismiss this unprecedented and terrifying national crisis just boggles the mind! I had to go out today and there were numerous lighted signs on the roads here that said STAY HOME and COVER FACE IN PUBLIC! Is this really an acceptable way to live? And it's far from over - according to those who actually know what they're talking about...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #42)

Wed May 13, 2020, 12:51 AM

43. Good ol New York.. I'm so grateful

for Gov Cuomo. It could be so much worse without a Dem Gov like him in charge.

Those who ignore the safety precautions protocol are brainwashed by those in the Cult45.. and there's enough of them to dangerously screw it up for everyone else.

We shall persevere in spite of all that.

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Response to Cha (Reply #43)

Wed May 13, 2020, 01:00 AM

44. Yup. I've thought that so often in recent weeks, we're really lucky to live in New York

And have a smart and engaged governor who speaks up and advocates for us - Andrew Cuomo. His Dad would be proud! On MSNBC tonight they said he has an 81% approval rate on handling this crisis. How it's not higher is a mystery to me!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #44)

Wed May 13, 2020, 01:06 AM

45. 81% Approval for Gov Cuomo! That's really good to know..

Mahalo!

As you know there's pockets of red in New York who wouldn't give the Dem Gov any credit no matter how good a job he's doing.

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Response to Cha (Reply #45)

Wed May 13, 2020, 01:09 AM

46. Yup, and they're all here Upstate.

After all, my idiot district keeps reelecting Elise Stefanik - even though there have been constant protests in my area ever since her first term.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 05:03 AM

32. Trump owns this. He'll deny it until he's blue in the face, but he's

the architect of the Convid-19 response disaster.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 02:32 PM

36. When the US dropped the bomb on Nagasaki

80,000 people died immediately. In an instant.

That number astonished the world.

We have had the equivalent number of deaths from one source in two months.



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