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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:09 PM May 2020

Trump Will Bring Down the GOP with Him

Trump Will Bring Down the GOP with Him

May 12, 2020 at 6:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 204 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/12/trump-will-bring-down-the-gop-with-him/

"SNIP.....

Joe Scarborough: “Republican incumbent senators in Arizona, Colorado, Montana, Maine and North Carolina face serious threats from their Democratic opponents in recent polls. Once-safe states such as Kansas and Georgia are in play, and Trump himself is losing head-to-head matchups with presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Florida. Recent polls show the two are even tied in traditionally Republican strongholds like Georgia and Texas.”

“With the prospects of a historic Democratic landslide building with every Trump news conference, every deranged tweet, every racist remark, wouldn’t now be the time for Republican candidates to stand up, speak out and finally stop following a man so ill-equipped for the presidency?”

“To quote Trump himself, with control of Congress and the White House slipping away: ‘What the hell do they have to lose?'”

.....SNIP"

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Trump Will Bring Down the GOP with Him (Original Post) applegrove May 2020 OP
Trump will bring down the GOP? jls4561 May 2020 #1
The GOP will cast IT saidsimplesimon May 2020 #20
If it happens, they'll only have themselves to blame Rorey May 2020 #2
They could have removed him Mr.Bill May 2020 #16
Political parties evolve, they don't go down Thomas Hurt May 2020 #3
The Whigs were unable to evolve CanonRay May 2020 #6
Federalists--Whigs--Republicans Laelth May 2020 #8
Not true..in 32, the Republicans lost 12 Senate seats and many House seats...the GOP has destroyed Demsrule86 May 2020 #11
While bringing down the USA as well.. . . Iliyah May 2020 #4
Sadly, I agree. NT Rorey May 2020 #5
i'll believe it when i see it on a Wednesday in November 0rganism May 2020 #7
Do you have room in that corner? I've a mask. yonder May 2020 #12
well, the local rodents are a bit rude but the cockroaches... good people, just super nice 0rganism May 2020 #27
... yonder May 2020 #29
That's what I've been hoping for since the RNC Convention of four years ago. lpbk2713 May 2020 #9
Yes, Trump will lose. But it ain't the end of the Puke Party..They said it about McGovern & Stuart G May 2020 #10
the damage McGovern inflicted on Democratic Party is still felt today AlexSFCA May 2020 #17
It could be a spectacular implosion... Blue Owl May 2020 #13
It's taken 40 years to develop the current Republican national legislators. OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #14
". . .a Democratic wave of truly epic proportions. . ." DinahMoeHum May 2020 #15
A Twofer spanone May 2020 #18
Every republican running should have his image paired with an image of Trump saying "I don't take re keithbvadu2 May 2020 #19
Never underestimate the appeal of white supremacy to bigoted & mediocre white people MrScorpio May 2020 #21
"Confederate Whiteness Sclerosis" applegrove May 2020 #22
I like to cite this quote from Ma Joad from time to time Cirque du So-What May 2020 #23
The best way I've got to help make this happen, right exactly now, is to donate to the DSCC. NBachers May 2020 #24
I'll count after the polls close struggle4progress May 2020 #25
The fight is between Democracy and the Gruesome Oligarchy Party Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #26
They forgot Iowa. I am, atm, predicting we win 6 flips and lose Jones, so a 52-48 Dem majority Celerity May 2020 #28
That would be the consummation of my dreams! Nt raccoon May 2020 #30

jls4561

(1,257 posts)
1. Trump will bring down the GOP?
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:13 PM
May 2020

Oh, goody!!!

I do wish I thought Scarborough credible, because I'd like to believe this. Of course, hope springs eternal...

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
20. The GOP will cast IT
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:02 PM
May 2020

to the curb when polls predict his demise. Meanwhile, this is an excellent opportunity for Democrats. imo

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. If it happens, they'll only have themselves to blame
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:13 PM
May 2020

They could have removed him with the 25th Amendment. They blew it.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. Federalists--Whigs--Republicans
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:19 PM
May 2020

It’s really still the same party. They have been forced to re-brand a couple of times. That’s all.

-Laelth

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
11. Not true..in 32, the Republicans lost 12 Senate seats and many House seats...the GOP has destroyed
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:29 PM
May 2020

our economy and killed 80,000+ Americans. They will go down in November.

0rganism

(23,943 posts)
7. i'll believe it when i see it on a Wednesday in November
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:18 PM
May 2020

until then i'll just be over here in the corner freaking out

0rganism

(23,943 posts)
27. well, the local rodents are a bit rude but the cockroaches... good people, just super nice
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:36 PM
May 2020

so yeah, c'mon over

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
9. That's what I've been hoping for since the RNC Convention of four years ago.
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:21 PM
May 2020


They endorsed him. The onus is on every one of them.

Stuart G

(38,416 posts)
10. Yes, Trump will lose. But it ain't the end of the Puke Party..They said it about McGovern &
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:27 PM
May 2020
his loss to Nixon.....................................................................................

.I remember because I worked for McGovern. Went door to door, passed out literature,
talked to lots of people. Yes, the end of the Democratic Party..no doubt. McGovern won one state. Mass.

Nixon 570 electoral votes.....McGovern...17 electoral votes... 1972..electoral vote...

The rest of the electoral votes went to Nixon....end of our party?..no..I don't think so..
.
...Very next election..1976?...Jimmy Carter, Democratic Party
.................................then....Ronald Regan??...end of the Democratic Party??

NO........up comes after Regan,... Bush Sr....Then who???....oh, no....??

...................Bill Clinton isn't that sweat...?(2 terms)
...................then Bush Jr.........a Puke...........then Who??? Barack Obama, An Afro-American Democrat..

And they said it about that run of FDR and Truman...? no more Pukes..but there were more, and more...
It is kinda political history..ain't it?

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
17. the damage McGovern inflicted on Democratic Party is still felt today
Tue May 12, 2020, 10:43 PM
May 2020

Trump’s performance in November will far better than McGovern’s in 1972. McGovern led to the rise of Raegan who fundamentally changed GOP and it lasts through present times. Trump doesn’t have anywhere near as destructive impact on GOP as McGovern did on Dem Party.

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
13. It could be a spectacular implosion...
Tue May 12, 2020, 09:20 PM
May 2020

Oh how I want to be there with a big evil grin on my face as the flaming wreckage is reflected in my sunglasses...



OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
14. It's taken 40 years to develop the current Republican national legislators.
Tue May 12, 2020, 09:26 PM
May 2020

Having the balls to stand up to wannabe dictators was bred out of this Party a long time ago.

keithbvadu2

(36,774 posts)
19. Every republican running should have his image paired with an image of Trump saying "I don't take re
Tue May 12, 2020, 10:50 PM
May 2020

Every republican running should have his image paired with an image of Trump saying "I don't take responsibility at all."

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
21. Never underestimate the appeal of white supremacy to bigoted & mediocre white people
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:04 PM
May 2020

And these people will vote for Republicans, even is that means they'll be dying of whiteness because of it.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
22. "Confederate Whiteness Sclerosis"
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:07 PM
May 2020

scle·ro·sis

/skləˈrōsəs/

noun

1.

MEDICINE

abnormal hardening of body tissue.

2.

excessive resistance to change.

"the challenge was to avoid institutional sclerosis"

Cirque du So-What

(25,927 posts)
23. I like to cite this quote from Ma Joad from time to time
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:09 PM
May 2020
I know. Maybe that makes us tough. Rich fellas come up an’ they die, an’ their kids ain’t no good, an’ they die out. But we keep a-comin’. We’re the people that live. Can’t nobody wipe us out. Can’t nobody lick us. We’ll go on forever, Pa.

NBachers

(17,103 posts)
24. The best way I've got to help make this happen, right exactly now, is to donate to the DSCC.
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:09 PM
May 2020

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/dscc-1

My twenty-five bucks makes the boom we're lowering a bit heavier.

A message from DSCC
Thank you for making a gift to the DSCC. More than 99% of our donations come from grassroots supporters like you. Together, we'll work to oppose Donald Trump's extreme agenda and elect strong Democrats to the Senate.

Thanks again for your support, and for fighting to help Democrats take back the Senate.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
26. The fight is between Democracy and the Gruesome Oligarchy Party
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:18 PM
May 2020

GOP:
More religious fanaticism, more division by race and culture, more wealth for the wealthy, more erosion of education, more pollution for profit, more human sacrifices.

Democrats:
Protection of rights, protection of health care, protection of diversity, protection of education, protection of the planet.

Celerity

(43,314 posts)
28. They forgot Iowa. I am, atm, predicting we win 6 flips and lose Jones, so a 52-48 Dem majority
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:01 AM
May 2020
I think we flip

IA, AZ, NC, CO, MT, and ME


It should have been EIGHT (KS and TN)

Sibelius refusing to run in Kansas and Tim McGraw in TN (both open seats as well) hurts our chances to gain 8, as does both Yates and Abrams (possible VP pick, so there's that) refusing to run in either of the 2 Georgia races. I have hope one of our top 3 can knock off the weak perdue in the regular GA seat race. Unfortunately, it look like the fuckstick doug Collins will cruise to victory in the special GA Senate race. One of the top 3 Dems (Ossoff, Riggs-Amico, Tomlinson) in the other should have slid over to have a go at him (or Yates should have, in a perfect world.)

Maybe we get lucky and Barbara Bollier (more likely) in KS and James Mackler in TN (less likely) can pull upsets.

Alaska is toast, we do not even have a candidate after Begich refused to run, KY and Texas are reaches, especially TX. I would love, love, LOVE McTurtle to do down in KY.


We had 16 major possibilities all refuse to run in various flippable states (some came from the same state, especially IA).

some will not matter, the ones who do (5 seats, ffs) I put into bold



TN Tim McGraw (probably the one who pisses me off the most, as he swore for years he would run for Senate when he was 50, he is now 53, and this is a great chance to win, as the seat is open, and Trump is a drag. He sure as fuck better run against the insane RWNJ CT-pusher, white nationalist fuckstick Trump mushroom-sucking Marsha Blackburn in 2024. McGraw would have CRUSHED her in 2018, but we trotted out the washed-up conservadem flip-flopping Bredesen, who said he would have confirmed Rapey Kavanaugh, then flopped back, which destroyed any chance right there, as the base stayed home in drives, even in a Blue Wave and with a KKK-friendly nutcase slag for an opponent, argggg)

AK Begich I have no idea why he is not taking a shot at Sullivan (who is easier to defeat than Murkowski by far), Begich WAS a Dem Senator before, and now we have no candidate at all. Al Gross, an indie, is it, and he will more than likely get defeated easily, but who knows, Alaska is weird, lol. Murkowski won in 2010 as a WRITE-IN.

KS Sibelius << If Bollier wins, all is forgiven, if we lose the Senate by one seat, and Bollier loses in a close race, I will never forgive her and McGraw, especially IF Trump wins re-election, as then odds are high those 2, by refusing to run, will enable the Rethugs to take the SCOTUS to 7-2 hard RW, and replace Thomas with a younger model of RW thug.

IA Cindy Axne, Chet Culver, Abby Finkenauer, Tom Vilsack (I don't think it will matter, Theresa Greengfield should beat that POS Ernst)

TX Beto and Julian Castro, but I do not think either could have beaten that shitfuck Cornyn, he is far more popular than Cruz. Damn shame Amanda Edwards did not win the Dem Primary, she is fucking great!! I watched like 5 of her interviews, she had The Breakfast Club in the palm of her hand (which is hard to do.)

KY (the strangest one as Andy Beshear would have been our best shot, BUT he ran and WON governor, so it not a terrible outcome) I so hope wins Amy McGrath. Ashley Judd would have been interesting, but she is probably too librul (gag) due to slag-off framing for the hillwilliams there. I will leave this as we have the best we can get.

ME Susan Rice (doesn't matter I think. Gideon should beat the POS Collins)

GA Yates and Abrams

NC Foxx and Stein (doesn't matter, I think Cal Cunningham beats the weak Tillis)





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