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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoward Stern hits it out of the park
Absolutely nailed it. Trump likely sees his supporters as nasty folks well beneath him.
raging moderate
(4,305 posts)Of course, they also think Trump looks like Hulk Hogan at his peak.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)exponentially off.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)Rabbit Hole
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)magicarpet
(14,149 posts).... they are ripe for The Con Man to take them for a nice long ride to trDump's La-La Land of lies, fabrications, deception, and deceit.
They somehow equate trDump with the gospel truth, not realizing they are both fucking fairytales based mostly on fiction rather than fact.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He seems to be a completely changed man. Much more pleasant and decent.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)And hes always admitted as much.
marlakay
(11,460 posts)She is not only beautiful on the outside but the inside as well.
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)A la Andrew Dice Clay. Give him some room, and the Buddy Hackett/George Carlin emerges pretty quickly.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)He told someone years ago that if he could hook the typical Fux viewer he could take control of the country. He knows they are dumb and gullible, even dumber than he is.
llmart
(15,536 posts)They are very, very good at recognizing and targeting the gullible.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)Hey, Hitler hated the Poles, Stalin hated the Poles.. Worked for them, eh? Oh that's right One guy stabbed the other in the back........ Hummmm
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nancy1942
(635 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)But THEY hate him also so it's different than those who love him
blakstoneranger
(333 posts)When referring to his base. He and steve bannon called them deplorables. Trump told this to hillary clinton while on the phone with her. Thats where she got it from. They just don't know, the joke is on them. shame.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)The turd had phone conversations with Hillary? Like, chatty, let's dish kind of chatty? Uh huh.
It WOULD be great... if it was true.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Trump wasn't always a Republican or I should say his public persona was not always as a Republican.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)He blew which ever way lined his pockets...
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Celerity
(43,349 posts)Big claims require big documentation.
Also, why would you pick a bloodthirsty, murderous gang, who conspired with Muammar al-Gaddafi of Libya to perform acts of domestic terrorism, for a user name?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almighty_Black_P._Stone_Nation
The Almighty Black P. Stone Nation, or BPSN, is an American street gang founded in Chicago, estimated to have more than 100,000 members. The gang was originally formed in the late 1950s as the Blackstone Rangers. The organization was co-founded by Eugene Hairston and Jeff Fort. In later years, under Fort's leadership, an Islamic faction of the gang emerged, naming themselves the "El Rukn tribe of the Moorish Science Temple of America" (or simply El Rukn, Arabic for "the pillar" or "the foundation" ). They eventually started describing themselves as Orthodox Sunni Muslims. Jeff Fort changed their fort name from El Rukn Moorish Science Mosque, to El Rukn Sunni Masjid al-Malik.
The Blackstone Rangers were founded at the St. Charles Institution for Troubled Youth by Jeff Fort and Eugene Hairston as a community organization for black youth in the Woodlawn area of South Chicago. Between 1961 and 1963, they evolved into one of the most dangerous and powerful gangs in Chicago. Fort seized upon the gang's changed mission, renaming it the Black P.(Peace) Stone Nation. He transformed the BPSN into a black nationalistic group, and continued to involve the gang in street crime and drug trafficking. BPSN co-founder Eugene Hairston was incarcerated on drug charges in June 1966 and was eventually murdered in 1988. Fort was arrested for mismanagement of government grants totaling $927,000 from the U.S. Office of Economic Opportunity in March 1972. Fort was released in 1976, but was later re-incarcerated on drug charges in the early 1980s. At the same time he was released from prison, Fort converted to Islam and imbued the BPSN with Islamic overtones, and adopted the name Abdul Malik Ka'bah.
According to former gang member Lance Williams, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan was responsible for introducing Fort to Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi. Following meetings during 1986 with Libyan operatives from Colonel Gaddafi's government, Fort was arrested. In 1987, Fort was tried and convicted for conspiring with Libya to perform acts of domestic terrorism. He was sentenced to 80 years imprisonment and transferred to the United States Penitentiary, Marion, the federal supermax prison in Marion, Illinois.
In 1988, Fort was also convicted of ordering the 1981 murder of a rival gang leader and was sentenced to 75 years in prison to be served after the completion of his terror conspiracy sentence. While Fort continues to exercise considerable influence over the BPS from prison, the various Black Stones splinter groups suffer from rampant infighting without a clear leader. There are two major groups that have split with the BPSN: The Mickey Cobras were supporters of Mickey Cogwell, a co-founder of BPSN killed by Jeff Fort. The Titanic Stones were supporters of Eugene Hairston who had a falling-out with Fort.
Kali
(55,008 posts)DBoon
(22,365 posts)Did someone take a wrong turn?
Celerity
(43,349 posts)initial tangential claim.
This board is far from linear in terms of colloquy when you take a perambulation around thousands of its threads.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).... the El Rukn Moorish Science Mosque. Quite the sight. I was just a wee bit naïve and was tempted to get off there and check it out. No Wikipedia back then to provide background information.
Alwaysna
(574 posts)Demobrat
(8,976 posts)He doesnt make them feel stupid by speaking above a 3rd grade level.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)...as what dumb people think a smart person sounds like and I think that's absolutely true.
Trump is what they appeal to be.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Whenever he was up for re-election in congress, he sounded as if he was protecting the good, decent citizens of Cobb county, GA, from the People's Republic of Escape From New York.
kimbutgar
(21,139 posts)He said from the beginning that MF45 is a phony liar years ago. Before I discovered progressive radio I listened to Howard sometimes I sometimes was taken aback by his comments but then I realized he made more sense at times and he always was apprehensive of MF45.
I like how he has come out punching MF45 and giving his support to Biden.
Notice mf45 hasnt attacked him?
Thank Howard Stern for speaking the truth.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)with the orange anus many times, in New York, and probably has many stories to tell that the MFer would rather not have get out into circulation.
intrepidity
(7,295 posts)Oh, Howard knows him alright.
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)He said he would release them before the last election,
apparently they had little effect.
https://mashable.com/2017/09/25/trump-melania-howard-stern/
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Trophy wife looks incredulous. The others, just being polite?
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)facial surgery. You can see her eyes
oasis
(49,382 posts)"Deplorables"
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)He tells them right to their faces! Using HIS words, his supporters are "poorly educated" suckers who would still support him even after witnessing him murder someone in broad daylight!
intrepidity
(7,295 posts)And Trump is a sadist. Perfect fit, really.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He would never associate with these people in a million years. He wouldn't even let them sit down on his furniture.
Trump probably resents the hell out of the fact that the people he depends upon for his re-election are people he wouldn't be caught dead with in his personal life, and that the people he really wants to accept him think he is vulgar, uncultured and common, and wouldn't give him the time of day, no matter how much money or power he has.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Back in his 20s and 30s he desperately wanted to pal around with the younger generation of NYC's "old money" families because they were rich and cool and had puff pieces written about them for charities and artists they were sponsoring.
At the time people attributed his exclusion to "snooty Manhattanites won't accept the kid from Queens", but really, in retrospect, it was mainly because he can't even fake having an ounce of class or style.
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)calimary
(81,240 posts)Nailed it.
manhattan123
(302 posts)...when she was promoting her last book, and it was one of the best interviews I've ever seen/heard with her. He voted for her and begged her to come on his show in 2016, but she refused, probably from a nervous staff recommendation. It could have got her some vital swing state votes.
ItsjustMe
(11,230 posts)You can view the Interview on SiriusXM.
https://player.siriusxm.com/home/foryou
no_hypocrisy
(46,095 posts)Blue Bloods, Brooke Astor and her ilk, NYC Knickerbockers, etc. in the tradition of Sour Grapes.
Trump moved to Manhattan from Queens/Brooklyn because he assumed his father's money and Roy Cohn's connections would make him one of them. It didn't. He was classless and came from nowhere. The Maidstone, one of the oldest and toniest beach/golf clubs in the Hamptons, refused to even let him apply for membership. (Why do you think he built all those golf courses/clubs? To "show'em!" He couldn't get membership to the courses you see Tiger Woods play on or locations like Tuxedo Park, Shinnecock, or National.
When Trump bought Mar-A-Lago, he thought NOW they'll invite me to their parties, put me on their Board of Directors, give me inside information for the Stock Market, etc. They locked arms and refused his offer of his society. Trump proceeded to taunt them by turning the Post property into a club, flying an oversize American flag, allowing Jews (gasp!) to be members at his club, etc. (Of course, now that he's President and can do them some favors, Palm Beach and NYC aren't as finicky.)
My point: Howard Stern is spot on. What's missing is who Trump truly longs for, not that it matters. It's been reported that he doesn't really have any friends. He seems to view people with whom to associate as opportunities to cheat and to make money.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)They have people that they use from time to time.
-Laelth
BuddhaGirl
(3,605 posts)EVERY acquaintence, EVERY friendship, is completely transactional.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)state houses with their flags and Trump banners. He regards them as scum to be used for his own gain.
Goodheart
(5,324 posts)I'm certain he despises black people more than he does those who kiss his ass.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,649 posts)Mopar151
(9,983 posts)In traditionally "liberal" states, as Governors.
Were the "Convention" to tar and feather the sorry bastards currently holding sway, and run Charlie Baker & Phil Scott, The "Party of Lincoln" might resume breathing on it's own. The fallout among the far right would look like sharks and piranahs, fighting in the waste lagoon of a meth lab.
Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)telling my husband he doesn't like emperor Lysol anytmore
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Millions support the dotard and they are just rubes to him. All he cares about is being popular to them and to get their vote. He is a pandering, craven, narcissistic asshole - he does not give a single shit for any of them. Yet, he will receive 10's of millions of votes.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Said from his pulpit above the masses.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Trump supporters don't care that he hates them and at least some of them realize he hates them and is going to screw them over.
They just want Trump to screw over those "other" people more than them - persons of color/minorities.
Azathoth
(4,608 posts)Pathologically narcissistic yet blatantly mediocre, sanctimonious yet ridiculously hypocritical and immoral, contemptuous of the "elites" yet desperate to hob-nob with them, spending their days collecting grievances and wanting nothing better than to hurt the society that treats them as ignorant failures while rewarding the kids who got A's in school.
Trump is their deepest fantasy made real: he's them, only with hundreds of millions of inherited wealth.
nolabear
(41,960 posts)Oh...government, boss, liberals, teachers, anybody they think has robbed them of their greatness. And greatness is defined in a way virtually nobody can reach it.
They set up the winner/loser scenario and spend their lives suffering and making others suffer from their awful knowledge that by their own definition they are losers.
It would be sad if they werent so dangerous.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)over the Obama presidency. My brother in law in one such person. Extremely wealthy, racists Trumper whose own Kid's cannot stand his politics.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Trump is a demagogue and is acting the same as demagogue politicians have for thousands of years. They dont have to identify with him personally. They only have to identify with his hate. Appealing to the base emotions of the electorate is always easier than appealing to intellect. The best part is you dont even have to be all that smart to pull it off.
oldsoftie
(12,534 posts)Only when it got serious did many of them wake up. But enough of them continued to think he was a brilliant businessman. The reality is that he is a brilliant conman.
Yes, Democrats. Many well known celebrities like Oprah, urged him on about running for president. Because he fooled everyone for so long. now only fools are fooled by him. Many of my friends among them. Its like the hypnotist shows you see; they're perfectly normal until the hypnotist says the magic word; then they turn into a barking dog. Trump say "fake news!" & they salivate. "Wall!" etc.