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Howard Stern hits it out of the park (Original Post) Drunken Irishman May 2020 OP
They think Trump looks like them. raging moderate May 2020 #1
i'm increasingly struck by how many things are not only 180 off, but mopinko May 2020 #2
Like we went through the looking glass. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #4
Yes, and landed in The Twilight Zone Down The Cha May 2020 #7
True, but the shyster in him knows them. nt babylonsister May 2020 #3
The Orange one loves the uneducated,... magicarpet May 2020 #62
Stern is much smarter than the character he plays Loki Liesmith May 2020 #5
I had never voluntarily listened to Stern, but saw him recently with HRC. lagomorph777 May 2020 #39
That other personality was always an act Loki Liesmith May 2020 #45
He changed a lot too after he met his wife marlakay May 2020 #57
His "low target" audience only sees the "shock" schlock. Mopar151 May 2020 #40
He sure knows how to con them though. BigmanPigman May 2020 #6
That's the thing about successful con men... llmart May 2020 #38
He hates liberals, they hate liberals... enemy of my enemy is my friend type stuff I guess. mitch96 May 2020 #8
Sums it up nicely. nancy1942 May 2020 #9
But he hates blacks, mexicans , chinese etc more so..... JI7 May 2020 #10
TRUMP INVENTED THE TERM DEPLORABLES blakstoneranger May 2020 #11
I had not heard THAT... not_the_one May 2020 #22
I don't know about that, but there are pictures of Trump with the Clintons. Jamastiene May 2020 #30
" Trump wasn't always a Republican" mitch96 May 2020 #36
link please, with definitive proof Celerity May 2020 #26
interestimg Kali May 2020 #27
That's a long way from Howard Stern DBoon May 2020 #58
No, I expanded the width of the highway of discussion, based off the post I replied to's Celerity May 2020 #59
I used to take the bus past... reACTIONary May 2020 #63
They like him because he speaks on their intellectual level. Alwaysna May 2020 #12
Exactly Demobrat May 2020 #13
Kind of relevant but someone once described Newt Gingrich's appeal... Drunken Irishman May 2020 #14
Newt also pushed the same hot buttons, leaned hard on the same tropes JHB May 2020 #31
I have a begrudging respect for Howard kimbutgar May 2020 #15
Stern probably crossed paths not fooled May 2020 #16
He was a regular on Stern's show intrepidity May 2020 #19
He has hours of recordings with Pendejo45 ... aggiesal May 2020 #24
Interesting photo. The woman behind Howard doesn't seem to amused by whatever tRump is spewing. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #37
Must b before melania's last xxqqqzme May 2020 #43
What is that forbidden word? oasis May 2020 #17
Absolutely. How do they not see the contempt he has for them? ecstatic May 2020 #18
Not really that odd. They are self-loathing masochists intrepidity May 2020 #20
KNR Lucinda May 2020 #21
I have said this many times. smirkymonkey May 2020 #23
Of course he resents it. It's been that way his whole life JHB May 2020 #32
Ding Ding Ding!!!!!! n/t Mopar151 May 2020 #42
Excellent! calimary May 2020 #25
Howard did an interview with Hillary a few months ago manhattan123 May 2020 #28
I saw that Interview ItsjustMe May 2020 #48
OTOH, Trump has derided the other end of the societal spectrum, the Old Rich. no_hypocrisy May 2020 #29
Narcissists don't really have friends. Laelth May 2020 #47
Exactly!! BuddhaGirl May 2020 #51
That is so true. Imagine Trump cavorting with the armed yahoos who keep showing up at Vinca May 2020 #33
I'm not sure about that, Howard. Goodheart May 2020 #34
That's obvious to anyone except His Deplorables. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #35
What's left of the Repub Party suffers from battered spouse syndrome... Wounded Bear May 2020 #41
Real Republicans have been sheltering in place Mopar151 May 2020 #44
This explains my Stern loving Repub neighbor Sugarcoated May 2020 #46
His followers are just marks to be conned. warmfeet May 2020 #49
He loves the uneducated. BlancheSplanchnik May 2020 #50
message to Stern NewJeffCT May 2020 #52
They see themselves in Trump Azathoth May 2020 #53
+1 grantcart May 2020 #60
I think you're right. It's the delusion they could have all that but for the stupid nolabear May 2020 #64
It's split between people Stern describes and wealthy supporters who are racists who still aren't Pepsidog May 2020 #54
It's not all that odd Major Nikon May 2020 #55
Trump had everyone fooled for SO many years; Democrats, republicans, whoever. oldsoftie May 2020 #56
Stern really knows the real trump Miigwech May 2020 #61

magicarpet

(14,149 posts)
62. The Orange one loves the uneducated,...
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:10 PM
May 2020

.... they are ripe for The Con Man to take them for a nice long ride to trDump's La-La Land of lies, fabrications, deception, and deceit.

They somehow equate trDump with the gospel truth, not realizing they are both fucking fairytales based mostly on fiction rather than fact.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
39. I had never voluntarily listened to Stern, but saw him recently with HRC.
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:56 AM
May 2020

He seems to be a completely changed man. Much more pleasant and decent.

marlakay

(11,460 posts)
57. He changed a lot too after he met his wife
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:34 PM
May 2020

She is not only beautiful on the outside but the inside as well.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
40. His "low target" audience only sees the "shock" schlock.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:31 AM
May 2020

A la Andrew Dice Clay. Give him some room, and the Buddy Hackett/George Carlin emerges pretty quickly.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
6. He sure knows how to con them though.
Tue May 12, 2020, 10:56 PM
May 2020

He told someone years ago that if he could hook the typical Fux viewer he could take control of the country. He knows they are dumb and gullible, even dumber than he is.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
38. That's the thing about successful con men...
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:00 AM
May 2020

They are very, very good at recognizing and targeting the gullible.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
8. He hates liberals, they hate liberals... enemy of my enemy is my friend type stuff I guess.
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:03 PM
May 2020

Hey, Hitler hated the Poles, Stalin hated the Poles.. Worked for them, eh? Oh that's right One guy stabbed the other in the back........ Hummmm
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JI7

(89,249 posts)
10. But he hates blacks, mexicans , chinese etc more so.....
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:09 PM
May 2020

But THEY hate him also so it's different than those who love him

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
11. TRUMP INVENTED THE TERM DEPLORABLES
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:16 PM
May 2020

When referring to his base. He and steve bannon called them deplorables. Trump told this to hillary clinton while on the phone with her. Thats where she got it from. They just don't know, the joke is on them. shame.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
22. I had not heard THAT...
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:05 AM
May 2020


The turd had phone conversations with Hillary? Like, chatty, let's dish kind of chatty? Uh huh.

It WOULD be great... if it was true.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
30. I don't know about that, but there are pictures of Trump with the Clintons.
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:18 AM
May 2020

Trump wasn't always a Republican or I should say his public persona was not always as a Republican.

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
26. link please, with definitive proof
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:54 AM
May 2020

Big claims require big documentation.

Also, why would you pick a bloodthirsty, murderous gang, who conspired with Muammar al-Gaddafi of Libya to perform acts of domestic terrorism, for a user name?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almighty_Black_P._Stone_Nation

The Almighty Black P. Stone Nation, or BPSN, is an American street gang founded in Chicago, estimated to have more than 100,000 members. The gang was originally formed in the late 1950s as the Blackstone Rangers. The organization was co-founded by Eugene Hairston and Jeff Fort. In later years, under Fort's leadership, an Islamic faction of the gang emerged, naming themselves the "El Rukn tribe of the Moorish Science Temple of America" (or simply El Rukn, Arabic for "the pillar" or "the foundation" ). They eventually started describing themselves as Orthodox Sunni Muslims. Jeff Fort changed their fort name from El Rukn Moorish Science Mosque, to El Rukn Sunni Masjid al-Malik.

The Blackstone Rangers were founded at the St. Charles Institution for Troubled Youth by Jeff Fort and Eugene Hairston as a community organization for black youth in the Woodlawn area of South Chicago. Between 1961 and 1963, they evolved into one of the most dangerous and powerful gangs in Chicago. Fort seized upon the gang's changed mission, renaming it the Black P.(Peace) Stone Nation. He transformed the BPSN into a black nationalistic group, and continued to involve the gang in street crime and drug trafficking. BPSN co-founder Eugene Hairston was incarcerated on drug charges in June 1966 and was eventually murdered in 1988. Fort was arrested for mismanagement of government grants totaling $927,000 from the U.S. Office of Economic Opportunity in March 1972. Fort was released in 1976, but was later re-incarcerated on drug charges in the early 1980s. At the same time he was released from prison, Fort converted to Islam and imbued the BPSN with Islamic overtones, and adopted the name Abdul Malik Ka'bah.

According to former gang member Lance Williams, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan was responsible for introducing Fort to Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi. Following meetings during 1986 with Libyan operatives from Colonel Gaddafi's government, Fort was arrested. In 1987, Fort was tried and convicted for conspiring with Libya to perform acts of domestic terrorism. He was sentenced to 80 years imprisonment and transferred to the United States Penitentiary, Marion, the federal supermax prison in Marion, Illinois.

In 1988, Fort was also convicted of ordering the 1981 murder of a rival gang leader and was sentenced to 75 years in prison to be served after the completion of his terror conspiracy sentence. While Fort continues to exercise considerable influence over the BPS from prison, the various Black Stones splinter groups suffer from rampant infighting without a clear leader. There are two major groups that have split with the BPSN: The Mickey Cobras were supporters of Mickey Cogwell, a co-founder of BPSN killed by Jeff Fort. The Titanic Stones were supporters of Eugene Hairston who had a falling-out with Fort.

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
59. No, I expanded the width of the highway of discussion, based off the post I replied to's
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:47 PM
May 2020

initial tangential claim.

This board is far from linear in terms of colloquy when you take a perambulation around thousands of its threads.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
63. I used to take the bus past...
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:17 PM
May 2020

.... the El Rukn Moorish Science Mosque. Quite the sight. I was just a wee bit naïve and was tempted to get off there and check it out. No Wikipedia back then to provide background information.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. Kind of relevant but someone once described Newt Gingrich's appeal...
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:42 PM
May 2020

...as what dumb people think a smart person sounds like and I think that's absolutely true.

Trump is what they appeal to be.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
31. Newt also pushed the same hot buttons, leaned hard on the same tropes
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:30 AM
May 2020

Whenever he was up for re-election in congress, he sounded as if he was protecting the good, decent citizens of Cobb county, GA, from the People's Republic of Escape From New York.

kimbutgar

(21,139 posts)
15. I have a begrudging respect for Howard
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:43 PM
May 2020

He said from the beginning that MF45 is a phony liar years ago. Before I discovered progressive radio I listened to Howard sometimes I sometimes was taken aback by his comments but then I realized he made more sense at times and he always was apprehensive of MF45.

I like how he has come out punching MF45 and giving his support to Biden.

Notice mf45 hasn’t attacked him?

Thank Howard Stern for speaking the truth.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
16. Stern probably crossed paths
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:53 PM
May 2020

with the orange anus many times, in New York, and probably has many stories to tell that the MFer would rather not have get out into circulation.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
37. Interesting photo. The woman behind Howard doesn't seem to amused by whatever tRump is spewing.
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:00 AM
May 2020

Trophy wife looks incredulous. The others, just being polite?

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
18. Absolutely. How do they not see the contempt he has for them?
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:56 PM
May 2020

He tells them right to their faces! Using HIS words, his supporters are "poorly educated" suckers who would still support him even after witnessing him murder someone in broad daylight!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. I have said this many times.
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:10 AM
May 2020

He would never associate with these people in a million years. He wouldn't even let them sit down on his furniture.

Trump probably resents the hell out of the fact that the people he depends upon for his re-election are people he wouldn't be caught dead with in his personal life, and that the people he really wants to accept him think he is vulgar, uncultured and common, and wouldn't give him the time of day, no matter how much money or power he has.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
32. Of course he resents it. It's been that way his whole life
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:42 AM
May 2020

Back in his 20s and 30s he desperately wanted to pal around with the younger generation of NYC's "old money" families because they were rich and cool and had puff pieces written about them for charities and artists they were sponsoring.

At the time people attributed his exclusion to "snooty Manhattanites won't accept the kid from Queens", but really, in retrospect, it was mainly because he can't even fake having an ounce of class or style.

manhattan123

(302 posts)
28. Howard did an interview with Hillary a few months ago
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:41 AM
May 2020

...when she was promoting her last book, and it was one of the best interviews I've ever seen/heard with her. He voted for her and begged her to come on his show in 2016, but she refused, probably from a nervous staff recommendation. It could have got her some vital swing state votes.

no_hypocrisy

(46,095 posts)
29. OTOH, Trump has derided the other end of the societal spectrum, the Old Rich.
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:35 AM
May 2020

Blue Bloods, Brooke Astor and her ilk, NYC Knickerbockers, etc. in the tradition of Sour Grapes.

Trump moved to Manhattan from Queens/Brooklyn because he assumed his father's money and Roy Cohn's connections would make him one of them. It didn't. He was classless and came from nowhere. The Maidstone, one of the oldest and toniest beach/golf clubs in the Hamptons, refused to even let him apply for membership. (Why do you think he built all those golf courses/clubs? To "show'em!" He couldn't get membership to the courses you see Tiger Woods play on or locations like Tuxedo Park, Shinnecock, or National.

When Trump bought Mar-A-Lago, he thought NOW they'll invite me to their parties, put me on their Board of Directors, give me inside information for the Stock Market, etc. They locked arms and refused his offer of his society. Trump proceeded to taunt them by turning the Post property into a club, flying an oversize American flag, allowing Jews (gasp!) to be members at his club, etc. (Of course, now that he's President and can do them some favors, Palm Beach and NYC aren't as finicky.)

My point: Howard Stern is spot on. What's missing is who Trump truly longs for, not that it matters. It's been reported that he doesn't really have any friends. He seems to view people with whom to associate as opportunities to cheat and to make money.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
33. That is so true. Imagine Trump cavorting with the armed yahoos who keep showing up at
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:45 AM
May 2020

state houses with their flags and Trump banners. He regards them as scum to be used for his own gain.

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
34. I'm not sure about that, Howard.
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:45 AM
May 2020

I'm certain he despises black people more than he does those who kiss his ass.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
44. Real Republicans have been sheltering in place
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:02 AM
May 2020

In traditionally "liberal" states, as Governors.

Were the "Convention" to tar and feather the sorry bastards currently holding sway, and run Charlie Baker & Phil Scott, The "Party of Lincoln" might resume breathing on it's own. The fallout among the far right would look like sharks and piranahs, fighting in the waste lagoon of a meth lab.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
49. His followers are just marks to be conned.
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

Millions support the dotard and they are just rubes to him. All he cares about is being popular to them and to get their vote. He is a pandering, craven, narcissistic asshole - he does not give a single shit for any of them. Yet, he will receive 10's of millions of votes.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
52. message to Stern
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:48 PM
May 2020

Trump supporters don't care that he hates them and at least some of them realize he hates them and is going to screw them over.

They just want Trump to screw over those "other" people more than them - persons of color/minorities.

Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
53. They see themselves in Trump
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:08 PM
May 2020

Pathologically narcissistic yet blatantly mediocre, sanctimonious yet ridiculously hypocritical and immoral, contemptuous of the "elites" yet desperate to hob-nob with them, spending their days collecting grievances and wanting nothing better than to hurt the society that treats them as ignorant failures while rewarding the kids who got A's in school.

Trump is their deepest fantasy made real: he's them, only with hundreds of millions of inherited wealth.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
64. I think you're right. It's the delusion they could have all that but for the stupid
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:34 PM
May 2020

Oh...government, boss, liberals, teachers, anybody they think has robbed them of their greatness. And greatness is defined in a way virtually nobody can reach it.

They set up the winner/loser scenario and spend their lives suffering and making others suffer from their awful knowledge that by their own definition they are losers.

It would be sad if they weren’t so dangerous.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
54. It's split between people Stern describes and wealthy supporters who are racists who still aren't
Wed May 13, 2020, 03:23 PM
May 2020

over the Obama presidency. My brother in law in one such person. Extremely wealthy, racists Trumper whose own Kid's cannot stand his politics.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
55. It's not all that odd
Wed May 13, 2020, 04:25 PM
May 2020

Trump is a demagogue and is acting the same as demagogue politicians have for thousands of years. They don’t have to identify with him personally. They only have to identify with his hate. Appealing to the base emotions of the electorate is always easier than appealing to intellect. The best part is you don’t even have to be all that smart to pull it off.

oldsoftie

(12,534 posts)
56. Trump had everyone fooled for SO many years; Democrats, republicans, whoever.
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:02 PM
May 2020

Only when it got serious did many of them wake up. But enough of them continued to think he was a brilliant businessman. The reality is that he is a brilliant conman.
Yes, Democrats. Many well known celebrities like Oprah, urged him on about running for president. Because he fooled everyone for so long. now only fools are fooled by him. Many of my friends among them. Its like the hypnotist shows you see; they're perfectly normal until the hypnotist says the magic word; then they turn into a barking dog. Trump say "fake news!" & they salivate. "Wall!" etc.

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